Complete rebuild can't happen with Raiola coaching

vs540husker

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I keep seeing people say "complete rebuild", alluding to it's going to take patience to see results. And while I understand that, at the same time, you can't have a rebuild using ANY of the same coaches from the previous staff. Especially not at the most important position group on the field.

You can't take a house with a severely damaged foundation and say "it'll be a complete rebuild" and then just toss on some new siding, and repaint some of the rooms, while completely ignoring the crumbling foundation.

While Rhule was not my first choice, I was certainly willing to give him a chance and be hopeful. Then once he announced he was keeping Raiola, I sighed and said to myself, "might as well just start looking for a new AD and start raising money for Rhule's buyout right now."

Trev better tell Rhule to start looking for a new o-line coach and make him the highest paid position coach in the program.
 

InMotion

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The O Line is the most important group on the field. I have been saying since Frost took over and it is still ****. I'd fire Riola at half time and replace him with just about anyone. But to be honest, we need a ******* homerun hire for that position group. OC sucks too. Pound sand.

We could easily get beat today by one score and **** better start changing now, not 2 or 3 years from now.

Been watching Nebraska **** football for too long and enough is enough.
 

redfanusa

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In our revolving-door of coaches, we have seen that the right assistant can make a big difference on the offensive line. Raiola was retained in order to have a snowball's chance in hell of landing his nephew. The moment he failed in that regard, he should have been shown the door.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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A lot of good O-Line coaches would look bad with the lack of talent that is the O-Line of Nebraska, the biggest effort recruiting going forward means any good o line portal players that can be lured to Lincoln, get them. And a few more good high schoolers as well.
 

Harry Caray

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A lot of good O-Line coaches would look bad with the lack of talent that is the O-Line of Nebraska, the biggest effort recruiting going forward means any good o line portal players that can be lured to Lincoln, get them. And a few more good high schoolers as well.

It's one of the more experienced O Lines in the country and most of them were highly rated recruits
 
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We need a SERIOUS infusion of talent on the O-line! We are the bottom feeders in all of P5 (four years running). No athleticism, no want to, zero football IQ. I’d burn some redshirts to build for the future. Quite trying to polish a turd!
 

redfanusa

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It's one of the more experienced O Lines in the country and most of them were highly rated recruits
I agree. The issue isn't athletic talent. It is attitude, motivation, technique, etc. Intangibles. In a word: coaching.
 

dinglefritz

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A lot of good O-Line coaches would look bad with the lack of talent that is the O-Line of Nebraska, the biggest effort recruiting going forward means any good o line portal players that can be lured to Lincoln, get them. And a few more good high schoolers as well.
Raiola has some good linemen coming in and there are some freshmen who I think will be good. Isn’t Sledge out for the year?
 

dinglefritz

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I agree. The issue isn't athletic talent. It is attitude, motivation, technique, etc. Intangibles. In a word: coaching.
Our left tackle doesn’t have quick enough feet to play there. The rest of the O line isn’t awful. Everybody has talent now so it’s not like every O lineman is going to win his block on every play. The Pipeline isn’t suddenly running on the field.
 

VictoryRed

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I keep seeing people say "complete rebuild", alluding to it's going to take patience to see results. And while I understand that, at the same time, you can't have a rebuild using ANY of the same coaches from the previous staff. Especially not at the most important position group on the field.

You can't take a house with a severely damaged foundation and say "it'll be a complete rebuild" and then just toss on some new siding, and repaint some of the rooms, while completely ignoring the crumbling foundation.

While Rhule was not my first choice, I was certainly willing to give him a chance and be hopeful. Then once he announced he was keeping Raiola, I sighed and said to myself, "might as well just start looking for a new AD and start raising money for Rhule's buyout right now."

Trev better tell Rhule to start looking for a new o-line coach and make him the highest paid position coach in the program.
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken **** no matter how good of a coach you are. We've known that we have no talent on the line and it shows, that's all.
 

Tetonia

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We have a Talent problem. Coaching can only do so much.

Need to rock the transfer portal. We need to BUY them, like good teams do…
 

Energy3

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The O Line is the most important group on the field. I have been saying since Frost took over and it is still ****. I'd fire Riola at half time and replace him with just about anyone. But to be honest, we need a ****ing homerun hire for that position group. OC sucks too. Pound sand.

We could easily get beat today by one score and **** better start changing now, not 2 or 3 years from now.

Been watching Nebraska **** football for too long and enough is enough.
We need to hire Dave Remington for our OL coach.
 

Baxter48_rivals204143

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We have a Talent problem. Coaching can only do so much.

Need to rock the transfer portal. We need to BUY them, like good teams do…
Didn’t Walter rouse commit and then switch to OU now he’s starting for them. Maybe he figured Donnie wasn’t any good
 

Hford

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Huskers are avg 5+ ypg in nearly every game (4.9) against Minny. Pass game sucks but that is OL and QB. Huskers are avg 235 ypg rushing. Pass blocking was terrible under Frost/Mickey as well. To be determined.
 

JDCasson02

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Did anyone listen to Jay Foreman yesterday? It’s not the coaches. None of them. He even said Raiola is one of the most passionate and meticulous coaches out there. It’s all about when are the offensive linemen going to ask themselves “when am I going to get tired of getting my *** kicked?” The things the coaches are doing is working. Players are bigger, stronger and not sacrificing speed. Others are leaner and stronger and able to move around better. Coaches can’t go out there and do it for them. The offensive line just flat out is not executing. It’s an attitude thing that won’t change until the players make it change. Maybe stick Sledge, Gottula and Hood out there if they’re healthy. Get them out there and start building something new. I don’t know. Nobody has the answer. Even you couch coaches couldn’t go in there and fix it right now.
 

dinglefritz

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Did anyone listen to Jay Foreman yesterday? It’s not the coaches. None of them. He even said Raiola is one of the most passionate and meticulous coaches out there. It’s all about when are the offensive linemen going to ask themselves “when am I going to get tired of getting my *** kicked?” The things the coaches are doing is working. Players are bigger, stronger and not sacrificing speed. Others are leaner and stronger and able to move around better. Coaches can’t go out there and do it for them. The offensive line just flat out is not executing. It’s an attitude thing that won’t change until the players make it change. Maybe stick Sledge, Gottula and Hood out there if they’re healthy. Get them out there and start building something new. I don’t know. Nobody has the answer. Even you couch coaches couldn’t go in there and fix it right now.
Boom. I love listening to Foreman analyze plays and schemes. He’s a very smart guy.
 

Scat_Back

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Boom. I love listening to Foreman analyze plays and schemes. He’s a very smart guy.
Doesn’t that come off as the inmates running the prison though? Just let players play like **** until they don’t want to?? If that were the case, good coaching would be to bench their *** ASAP, trust that your good coaching has gotten through to guys that want to really play and light a fire. That’s not happening and that’s why I disagree with Foreman’s take.

Raiola should be gone after this season. He was clearly kept for Dylan and Matt Rhule was being a politician to the fans about it. He’s had some really good recruits to work with and that position group has consistently looked the worst on either side of the ball.
 

dinglefritz

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Doesn’t that come off as the inmates running the prison though? Just let players play like **** until they don’t want to?? If that were the case, good coaching would be to bench their *** ASAP, trust that your good coaching has gotten through to guys that want to really play and light a fire. That’s not happening and that’s why I disagree with Foreman’s take.

Raiola should be gone after this season. He was clearly kept for Dylan and Matt Rhule was being a politician to the fans about it. He’s had some really good recruits to work with and that position group has consistently looked the worst on either side of the ball.
I don’t believe it’s as clear as you think that Raiola was kept to try to land Dylan. Raiola is proving to be a damned good recruiter of linemen. Coaching the O line isn’t rocket science. I trust Foreman’s opinion of him WAY more than any posters on social media. We HAVE to develop a left tackle and we’ll be fine. We’re never going to have the advantage with our O line that we had with Eppley’s vitamins ever again. We need to get that out of our heads.
 

JOHNNY N

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Doesn’t that come off as the inmates running the prison though? Just let players play like **** until they don’t want to?? If that were the case, good coaching would be to bench their *** ASAP, trust that your good coaching has gotten through to guys that want to really play and light a fire. That’s not happening and that’s why I disagree with Foreman’s take.

Raiola should be gone after this season. He was clearly kept for Dylan and Matt Rhule was being a politician to the fans about it. He’s had some really good recruits to work with and that position group has consistently looked the worst on either side of the ball.
I kind of think foreman knows what he's talking about.
 

oldjar07

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Did anyone listen to Jay Foreman yesterday? It’s not the coaches. None of them. He even said Raiola is one of the most passionate and meticulous coaches out there. It’s all about when are the offensive linemen going to ask themselves “when am I going to get tired of getting my *** kicked?” The things the coaches are doing is working. Players are bigger, stronger and not sacrificing speed. Others are leaner and stronger and able to move around better. Coaches can’t go out there and do it for them. The offensive line just flat out is not executing. It’s an attitude thing that won’t change until the players make it change. Maybe stick Sledge, Gottula and Hood out there if they’re healthy. Get them out there and start building something new. I don’t know. Nobody has the answer. Even you couch coaches couldn’t go in there and fix it right now.
That's one of the coach's primary jobs is to get their guys motivated. If they can't do that, they're a pretty awful coach.
 

oldjar07

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I don’t believe it’s as clear as you think that Raiola was kept to try to land Dylan. Raiola is proving to be a damned good recruiter of linemen. Coaching the O line isn’t rocket science. I trust Foreman’s opinion of him WAY more than any posters on social media. We HAVE to develop a left tackle and we’ll be fine. We’re never going to have the advantage with our O line that we had with Eppley’s vitamins ever again. We need to get that out of our heads.
He's had 2 years to bring in a starting quality LT and hasn't done it. With the ease of bringing in guys from the transfer portal, there's no excuse for that. They still don't look that well coached. The OL doesn't know how to get to the 2nd level. They get easily confused in pass protection if there's any sort of stunt or blitz called. And they don't always play hard. Unless there's massive improvement in line play from now until the end of the season, Raiola needs to be out the door.
 

JDCasson02

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That's one of the coach's primary jobs is to get their guys motivated. If they can't do that, they're a pretty awful coach.
😂 always a lame *** excuse to blame the coaches. Nah, can’t give blame to the players. Why should they be held accountable, right?
 

JDCasson02

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Doesn’t that come off as the inmates running the prison though? Just let players play like **** until they don’t want to?? If that were the case, good coaching would be to bench their *** ASAP, trust that your good coaching has gotten through to guys that want to really play and light a fire. That’s not happening and that’s why I disagree with Foreman’s take.

Raiola should be gone after this season. He was clearly kept for Dylan and Matt Rhule was being a politician to the fans about it. He’s had some really good recruits to work with and that position group has consistently looked the worst on either side of the ball.
That would be great if we had people to come in and do the job. If the freshmen aren’t ready the B1G schedule will only continue to knock our QB’s out of games. Just have a little bit of common sense. That’s all, just a little bit.
 

oldjar07

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😂 always a lame *** excuse to blame the coaches. Nah, can’t give blame to the players. Why should they be held accountable, right?
It starts with the coaches because they're in charge of who plays and bringing in guys if the current guys aren't good enough. I hold the players accountable too. Corcoran sucks ***. Lutovsky isn't as impressive as I thought he'd be. But there's some good things too. Piper has shown a lot of improvement this year all around. Benhart has shown some improvement in the running game. Noulli has been doing well for the most part. If you have a LT who sucks *** though and makes the entire line look bad, it's all for naught. And there's no excuse from the coaching staff for that.
 

beaglehusker

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That's one of the coach's primary jobs is to get their guys motivated. If they can't do that, they're a pretty awful coach.
No it's not a coach's primary job to get guys motivated, just plain wrong. Coach them, get them ready to play, bench when not performing, recruit better players yes.
 

dinglefritz

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He's had 2 years to bring in a starting quality LT and hasn't done it. With the ease of bringing in guys from the transfer portal, there's no excuse for that. They still don't look that well coached. The OL doesn't know how to get to the 2nd level. They get easily confused in pass protection if there's any sort of stunt or blitz called. And they don't always play hard. Unless there's massive improvement in line play from now until the end of the season, Raiola needs to be out the door.
You have to build relationships to bring in recruits. He came from the NFL so there’s no way in hell that he was going to bring in a big time left tackle after the early signing period was already over. This past class looks pretty good. He’s in the running for the #1 tackle prospect in the country and another 4 star OT that other P5 teams want. I’ll say he’s doing his job.
 

dinglefritz

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It starts with the coaches because they're in charge of who plays and bringing in guys if the current guys aren't good enough. I hold the players accountable too. Corcoran sucks ***. Lutovsky isn't as impressive as I thought he'd be. But there's some good things too. Piper has shown a lot of improvement this year all around. Benhart has shown some improvement in the running game. Noulli has been doing well for the most part. If you have a LT who sucks *** though and makes the entire line look bad, it's all for naught. And there's no excuse from the coaching staff for that.
How’s your class B high school position group doing?😉
 

bob5150

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Our Oline is not there obviously. However, I'm not going to get too ticked off after we just ran for over 300 yards, and could have had 400. Next week if we have 45 yards on 20 carries, then I'll be pissed.
 

oldjar07

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You have to build relationships to bring in recruits. He came from the NFL so there’s no way in hell that he was going to bring in a big time left tackle after the early signing period was already over. This past class looks pretty good. He’s in the running for the #1 tackle prospect in the country and another 4 star OT that other P5 teams want. I’ll say he’s doing his job.
You shouldn't be looking at high school to fill huge gaps in your line in the first place. He's been here 2 years and that's more than enough time to find a LT that's worth a damn.
 

NUSouth

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In our revolving-door of coaches, we have seen that the right assistant can make a big difference on the offensive line. Raiola was retained in order to have a snowball's chance in hell of landing his nephew. The moment he failed in that regard, he should have been shown the door.

Signing day is not here yet. We can still get him to flip. Then there is a second Riola QB coming up who we have already offered.