OT 49ers QB situation

otismotis08

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Putting all of their eggs in the Purdy basket after trading Lance.
Seems like they are in for trouble at the most important position, despite having a solid roster elsewhere.
Discuss.
Go Birds.
 

Dean Pope

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Sounds like Lance still has a long way to go and needs playing experience. Lots of it. He played at a small school and only started for one season. Left school as a redshirt sophomore. He was and still is very raw. And he got beat out for the backup job by a journeyman QB.

Bill Parcells used to say that college QBs coming into the league would ideally play their senior year, graduate from college and have started at least 30 games. Brock Purdy meets that criteria and has played very well for the 49ers. Shanahan really only needs a system QB and Purdy is his guy.
 

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Sam Darnold played okay-ish last year in CAR

Wouldn’t be shocked to see him step in and handle what little shanahan requires of him if purdy goes down again

Trey Lance, what a bust

I am also of the apparently minority opinion that Jimmy G sucks & may not win a single game in Vegas
 

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Definitely not a smart play by the Niners. But you can look at it like this. Pretend that Purdy is your first round draft pick that you gave up a lot of future picks for. Now, pretend that Trey is Mr. irrelevant, which he is. As long as Purdy plays well on his rookie deal, which is peanuts, you can survive this terrible trade. If Trey was balling out, and Purdy was awful, giving Purdy to the Cowboys for a fourth rounder would not even be newsworthy. The important thing is that the 9ers have a legit starting qb
 
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dinglefritz

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Letting last years starter walk and trading the #2 and a guy you gave up a lot to go get seems.....ballsy.
Lance really hasn’t shown that he can run Shanahan’s offense. I’m kind of surprised they dumped him given Purdy’s injury history and the fact that at least he knows the playbook. They save some money and IMO that’s probably the main reason he got traded. IF he had been a 3rd round pick like he should have been he would still possibly be a 49er.
 

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Definitely not a smart play by the Niners. But you can look at it like this. Pretend that Purdy is your first round draft pick that you gave up a lot of future picks for. Now, pretend that Trey is Mr. irrelevant, which he is. As long as Purdy plays well on his rookie deal, which is peanuts, you can survive this terrible trade. If Trey was bawling out, and Purdy was awful, giving him to the Cowboys for a fourth rounder would not even be newsworthy.
what's not smart?

trading him?
 

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Definitely not a smart play by the Niners. But you can look at it like this. Pretend that Purdy is your first round draft pick that you gave up a lot of future picks for. Now, pretend that Trey is Mr. irrelevant, which he is. As long as Purdy plays well on his rookie deal, which is peanuts, you can survive this terrible trade. If Trey was balling out, and Purdy was awful, giving Purdy to the Cowboys for a fourth rounder would not even be newsworthy. The important thing is that the 9ers have a legit starting qb
I always thought that Shanahan was talked into drafting Lance. He reportedly wanted Mac Jones after trading up in the draft and then changed his mind. Jones was a better fit for Shanahan's offense. But at this point, Brock Purdy has looked better than Jones. In fact, there were rumors that Mac Jones was already wearing out his welcome in New England.
 
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king_kong_

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I always that Shanahan was talked into drafting Lance. He reportedly wanted Mac Jones after trading up in the draft and then changed his mind. Jones was a better fit for Shanahan's offense. But at this point, Brock Purdy has looked better than Jones. In fact, there were rumors that Mac Jones was already wearing out his welcome in New England.
I've heard this, too
 

steinek11

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I always that Shanahan was talked into drafting Lance. He reportedly wanted Mac Jones after trading up in the draft and then changed his mind. Jones was a better fit for Shanahan's offense. But at this point, Brock Purdy has looked better than Jones. In fact, there were rumors that Mac Jones was already wearing out his welcome in New England.
Mac is just a guy.
 

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Purdy will be as good as he is able to stay healthy and be a point guard QB. Distribute the ball to the weapons and not be forced to make plays. Don’t know if he will be successful or not but the offense can’t be built on him being more than a distributor
 

dinglefritz

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You think they picked up Lance to replace Dak?
And then Grier goes out and has a very good preseason performance. Better than anything Lance has put on video ……. Regardless of how cheap he was, I think Jurrie screwed the pooch….again.
 

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And then Grier goes out and has a very good preseason performance. Better than anything Lance has put on video ……. Regardless of how cheap he was, I think Jurrie screwed the pooch….again.

Yeah, probably...because...Jerry. But see post above. I don't really have a problem with it. Lance is young, doesn't have a ton of experience, was hurt a year, etc. He may have some upside.
 

dinglefritz

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Yeah, probably...because...Jerry. But see post above. I don't really have a problem with it. Lance is young, doesn't have a ton of experience, was hurt a year, etc. He may have some upside.
The problem as I see it is that Grier clearly has a lot of locker room support and knows the offense after a good performance. Do you try to sneak Grier through waivers to the practice squad or do you just cut bait and keep Lance as QB 3 in the 53. Grier’s no doubt gone and they’re gonna pay Lance a lot more as a third string backup than Grier cost them. Doesn’t make much sense to me. I just don’t think the Boys should have been that desperate. My Vikings on the other hand…..
 

steinek11

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I think they picked him up because they know they are in trouble at that position and it was the only available move.
They get the chance to develop him for a year or two at a bargain price. Few teams ever need their 3rd QB. Good move by the cowboys
 

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The problem as I see it is that Grier clearly has a lot of locker room support and knows the offense after a good performance. Do you try to sneak Grier through waivers to the practice squad or do you just cut bait and keep Lance as QB 3 in the 53. Grier’s no doubt gone and they’re gonna pay Lance a lot more as a third string backup than Grier cost them. Doesn’t make much sense to me. I just don’t think the Boys should have been that desperate. My Vikings on the other hand…..

About the only thing I put less faith in than Jerry's ability as a GM is NFL pre-season performance. Locker room support and knowing the offense is worth pretty much nothing in the NFL. Lance has a lot more upside than Grier. He's already listed as QB3. And I don't see how it was desperate at all. They got him for free. I mean, I'm not saying it'll amount to anything of note, but I'm not seeing the downside either.
 

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I saw a stat that Geno Smith threw more passes last year than Trey Lance has thrown in his career including High school, college and pro (including pre-season).
 

dinglefritz

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About the only thing I put less faith in than Jerry's ability as a GM is NFL pre-season performance. Locker room support and knowing the offense is worth pretty much nothing in the NFL. Lance has a lot more upside than Grier. He's already listed as QB3. And I don't see how it was desperate at all. They got him for free. I mean, I'm not saying it'll amount to anything of note, but I'm not seeing the downside either.
Draft picks aren’t nothing and then they pick up his full contract next year. Obviously they see more upside with Lance than Grier.
 

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Giving up draft capital and what they spent on Trey was far more damaging to them long term. I watch the Niners play every week, Purdy is the real deal as long as he stays healthy.
 

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I saw a stat that Geno Smith threw more passes last year than Trey Lance has thrown in his career including High school, college and pro (including pre-season).
I was shocked when people started talking about Lance as a 1st round pick. Can't believe people got caught up in the NDSU hype. Best oline in FCS. Throwing to Watson who has blazing speed. He needed another year to prove it.
 

Dean Pope

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Lance is zero threat to Dak. He really needs a lot more game reps in college.
Good god, yes. It's odd that the Cowboys gave up a 4th round pick for Lance when they already have a proven backup QB. And Lance's contract is only for two more seasons. Dallas will not be picking up his fifth year option. So basically, Jerry Jones has the most expensive third stringer in the league in 2023 with a good chance of having him be the backup QB in 2024. Only to let him walk as a free agent after that. Strange.
 

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I was shocked when people started talking about Lance as a 1st round pick. Can't believe people got caught up in the NDSU hype. Best oline in FCS. Throwing to Watson who has blazing speed. He needed another year to prove it.
I'll mention COVID as a reason for all of this (at the risk of calling the Covidiots out of the tall weeds).

If I recall, he only played one game in 2020 and that was actually in the spring of 2021. He led a veteran NDSU offense against an under prepared opponent and played one amazing game. It was off of that one game that he became a great prospect. And after that, he went pro-- in retrospect, it may have been a brilliant move because he got paid a lot of money going that high as "a chosen one" QB prospect. Had he stayed to play the regular 2021 season, his flaws may have been more visible and he may have dropped into the 3rd/4th round in the 2022 draft. Who knows?
 

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I'll mention COVID as a reason for all of this (at the risk of calling the Covidiots out of the tall weeds).

If I recall, he only played one game in 2020 and that was actually in the spring of 2021. He led a veteran NDSU offense against an under prepared opponent and played one amazing game. It was off of that one game that he became a great prospect. And after that, he went pro-- in retrospect, it may have been a brilliant move because he got paid a lot of money going that high as "a chosen one" QB prospect. Had he stayed to play the regular 2021 season, his flaws may have been more visible and he may have dropped into the 3rd/4th round in the 2022 draft. Who knows?
Uh, no. He tore it up for a full season. 28 tds and no picks with over 1,000 yds rushing. He wasn't drafted based on 1 game.
 
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Jerry Jones has the most expensive third stringer in the league in 2023 with a good chance of having him be the backup QB in 2024. Only to let him walk as a free agent after that. Strange.
His contract is for less this year than Grier’s was.
If he leaves as a FA, Dallas gets a 3rd round compensatory pick.

This is not a foolish deal for Dallas.
 
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I think it was bill Parcells who said it best, you don't just dial "1 800 I need a quarterback", and end up with one. This was a very low risk, potentially high reward.