35 to 40 Top Brands
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As I’ve said here many times - conferences are already dead
Trev agrees:
“We’re moving to a 35 to 40 top brands being part of something. If you just look at football in isolation, eventually conferences will matter less in a sense.“
Trev agrees:
“We’re moving to a 35 to 40 top brands being part of something. If you just look at football in isolation, eventually conferences will matter less in a sense.“
That seems to be true but is that actually good for college football? Is that best for the largest number of college athletes? Are those guys who’ve been getting to the NFL from Middle Tennessee State still going to get that opportunity?
IMO conference realignment has been an awful thing for athletes. I also think that for the long term it’s not been a good thing for the vast majority of schools.
Well if you agree with him on that then you have to agree he said “ so at the time the move to the B1G the right decision”.
Like I’ve told you by getting into the conference gets Nebraska in the 40 top brands.
I don’t believe that for a second
We were a top 40 brand before joining, would remain a top 40 brand regardless of conference affiliation
It will be better for all the student athletes who play other sports for football to be on it's own.
You believe what you want to believe, but now with texass and OU moving to the SEC from the Big 12, Nebraska would have been wanting to get into the B1G if they still were in the Big 12..
I’d be curious as to what parts of conference realignment is bad for the largest number of college sports. I know some people have used the travel reason but that has been debunked by many student athletes. In general they have stated they have enjoyed visiting new venues even the short periods they are there. Most student athletes have had little transition issues with actually utilizing remote learning while traveling and/or making up classes that they might…..and it’s a strong might…..have attended in person.
It’s debatable whether we would be a top 40. Most likely. Any reasonable fan would believe our brand is much higher right now nationally in the B1G than it would be in the Big 12.
That has nothing to do with brand recognition
We are a blue blood. Easily a top 20 national brand despite the last decade.
As an independent we would still be a top 40 brand.
And here’s a newsflash - not everyone in the B1G by a long shot will make it to the next round. We currently wallow around with 3 teams outside the top 100 brands.
We’d still be top 40 Football brand but we wouldn’t be in a conferences that doesn’t have anymore blue blood teams no longer in it..
Baseball for one.. Teams travel for a three game series and schools furthest east would have travel issues getting in late on Sunday traveling back from California, Oregon or Washington..
As my original post stated the major travel issues have been debunked as a major problem for the student athlete. Adding one more hour of travel time between California destinations and the Upper midwest/East coast destinations.
Conferences aren't dead. Just the one you want us to be in. Hating the B1G doesn't mean its dead.
Ultimately, conference realignment, NIL, and the transfer portal are all just more of the rich getting richer and will only benefit a small percentage of schools and athletes.
Sure, kids now have the ability to make money on their N, I & L, but what percentage will really make life changing money? And how many will it actually be determental to because they don't have to fight and struggle as much as they had to in the past to get their payday? Maybe they don't worry about going to class and getting their degree. Sure, there are plenty that look at college as nothing more than preparation for the pros, but NIL is going to amplify that.
Same with the transfer portal. Rather than staying where they are and fighting through adversity, how many kids have went into the portal only to find out they have no where to land or land in a worse situation? What does it do to lower tier schools who are losing their star athletes to the elites?
This whole new world of college sports has essentially killed the uniqueness that was college sports. In pretty much every way, college sports have become the minor league baseball system for all sports. All about the money. No loyalty to your school. No reason to stay, fight through diversity, and become a better person through the struggle.
So let's try to break this down a bit. Given the layout of college football conference direction where would you like us to be? Any Rational person knows there has been a disconnect between P5 and non P5 teams now for the last 10 years and the disconnect is growing. Most Rational people are starting to see a disconnect between the B1G, SEC, and the other 3 power conferences with the PAC almost extinct.
While we probably still represent a power 40 brand and maybe 20 there shouldn't be any argument that we have benefited from being in a strong blue blooded conference such as the B1G rather than one of the other power 5 conferences that is hoping to hang on.
My question is to anyone still reminiscing of the old Big 8 and Big 12 is where would you like to be RIGHT NOW? On the outside HOPING we get invited into the B1G........which puts us right where we are now. Or would you rather already be there. If your answer is you still wish we were back in the dwindling Big 12 then the discussion is mute. You won't get 99% of the fan base to agree with you.
yes, they are
you'll catch up eventually
I suspect "day late, dollar short" is a common through line in your life
Just because you say something doesn't make it the truth. Conferences are alive and fine. Just like many things in life you have to have some adjustments to make it better. We are finally starting to see the conferences align into a more workable size and commonsense. Sorry you missed out on it.
Less conferences. Since they all operate independently its much better to have a few large conferences than a lot of conferences that vary in significance of shapes, sizes and locations. We are basically creating a division within the conferences that previously the Power 5 conference have failed to get passed through the NCAA . And that is the split from the top conferences to the bottom ones. At about 130 teams it is way to wide of a range. Splitting off a group of about 64 of those teams will make the size more manageable.How is adding 18-20 teams a more workable size?
I agree with TA. I think we will have an NFL lite before I'm gone.
This is exactly why I wanted Nebraska to interview coaches by win percentage and not by "gut feeling", or some other weird ***, off the wall reasoning as to why "they'd work here" when they sucked hind tit elsewhere.
Nebraska is a blue blood because of high level of success in all eras of football. TA is right, conference expansion and realignment hasn't stopped for very long in the history of college football. It still isn't going to stop. Get used to it.
Missouri valley to B6, B6 to B8, B8 to B12, B12 to b10...or what it really is.
These fans of the big ten should get ready for the time when their old conference isn't going to be around.
Nebraska should look out for Nebraska.
Conferences don't mean ****. But that was never the focus of fans when I was growing up anyway so no big deal to me.
GO BIG RED!!!
This is exactly why I wanted Nebraska to interview coaches by win percentage and not by "gut feeling", or some other weird ***, off the wall reasoning as to why "they'd work here" when they sucked hind tit elsewhere.
Nebraska is a blue blood because of high level of success in all eras of football. TA is right, conference expansion and realignment hasn't stopped for very long in the history of college football. It still isn't going to stop. Get used to it.
Missouri valley to B6, B6 to B8, B8 to B12, B12 to b10...or what it really is.
These fans of the big ten should get ready for the time when their old conference isn't going to be around.
Nebraska should look out for Nebraska.
Conferences don't mean ****. But that was never the focus of fans when I was growing up anyway so no big deal to me.
GO BIG RED!!!
We got a very high tv revenue, we have gotten a schedule of blue blood games against top caliber conference opponents and more than anything we have been spared the uncomfortable process of sitting outside this conference begging to be let in.
Whatever stops those Yokels in the former Confederacy from chanting SEC I am fine with.
TV revenue that has resulted in what, exactly? Research money that the football program and fans never see. We always had a schedule with other blue bloods. And as a blue blood and a top 20 brand, we were never going to be sitting outside of a conference begging for anything.
So, to answer your question, although I'm not wishing we were still in the Big 12, I wouldn't be mad if we were. And I really wish we hadn't joined this garbage conference that is the B1G when we did. If this board is any indication, you would be 100% wrong that 99% of the fan base wouldn't agree.
I think we are setting pretty good, with nowhere to go but up.
money is right, rhule isn't retiring and has more then 1 year hc experience
I think we need to give him time before trying to do flip cordinators bandaid stuff.
rhule and co seem to have recruiting energy, and he's wise enough not to do onsides up by 11.
I think rhule understands a ground game is inportant. and rhule seems to understand alot of things really.
heck, last years practices sounded like a disco, this year they seemed able to hear what the coaches are saying.
really all there is left to do is put in the work on a consistent basis..be it the rest of fall camp, the season, and portal/recruiting.
post tenebras lux
money is right, rhule isn't retiring and has more then 1 year hc experience
I think we need to give him time before trying to do flip cordinators bandaid stuff.
rhule and co seem to have recruiting energy, and he's wise enough not to do onsides up by 11.
I think rhule understands a ground game is inportant. and rhule seems to understand alot of things really.
heck, last years practices sounded like a disco, this year they seemed able to hear what the coaches are saying.
really all there is left to do is put in the work on a consistent basis..be it the rest of fall camp, the season, and portal/recruiting.
post tenebras lux
The higher revenue from tv is paying the bills. Remind me which blue bloods are in the B1G 12 after this year? As for 99% of the fan base. No this board isn’t an indication of the average fan base.
the fact a blue blood is and will remain an independent is all you need to know about how little conferences matter
we are a top 20 brand nationally if all we did was play local junior high teams
As for never had having worried about being on the outside looking in begging to be invited…….there is no indication that the B1G would invite us if we were in the Big 12 today.
You are ridiculous. Are you referring to the only remaining blue blood in Norte Dame? They are the only remaining independent and are likely to be in a conference in the next two years. Don’t even try to act like we are a similar brand. Even Norte Dame had to join a conference to be able to schedule blue bloods in other sports.
Nebraska is a top ten brand. Thats not debatable.
I hated realignment at the start and dislike it now, but we’re so far along I hope conferences die. You know what happens if we go to 40 mega teams? It goes to regional divisions and we play oklahoma every year again. Eventually more teams get in and we’re playing old schools.
People are focused on the national aspect of these conferences but not realizing that the more teams these conferences add, the more regional your schedule will eventually become.
Things might come full circle and we’re taking the long way in getting rid of the ncaa and re establishing conferences.
I hated realignment at the start and dislike it now, but we’re so far along I hope conferences die. You know what happens if we go to 40 mega teams? It goes to regional divisions and we play oklahoma every year again. Eventually more teams get in and we’re playing old schools.
People are focused on the national aspect of these conferences but not realizing that the more teams these conferences add, the more regional your schedule will eventually become.
Things might come full circle and we’re taking the long way in getting rid of the ncaa and re establishing conferences.
Again, what bills? Last I checked, none of those teams that are in the Big 12 have filed chapter 11. None have shut down their football program. In fact, several have somehow been able to scrape together enough money to pay for their flights to the CFP. While we sat home counting our research money.
I wasn't referring to after this year. Fact is we had 2 blue bloods in our conference when we were in the Big 12 and we've had 2 blue bloods in our conference since we joined the B1G. So, your point is moot.
What is then? Most of my friends outside of this board hate the B1G. I guess I just don't have access to 99% of the average fans. Go ahead and post a link to a poll of average fans that says 99% are glad we're in the B1G. I'll wait.
Well that would really be a good thing to happen because it’s nuts having the Rutgers and Maryland’s and Penn State’s flying all the way to California and Washington on a regular bases for conference games.
But here we are..
There is no indication they wouldn't. They added Rutgers, Maryland, UCLA, Oregon and Washington since we joined. All less attractive than Nebraska.
Regardless, who's to say we'd want them anyway? The entire point of this whole discussion is, we'd be just fine without them. Hell, maybe the SEC would add us, which would be a huge upgrade. Or, we'd be the only blue blood in the Big 12 where there would certainly be some upside and we'd be just fine. Again, I'm not saying that's what I'd necessarily want, but I wouldn't be mad at all if that were the case.
Yet both those blue bloods are moving on because of more money. And there are three not two blue bloods in the BIG other than us and about to be a total of 6 total with a handful of wannabes in Oregon, Washington, Iowa and Wisconsin. How many in the Big 12?
as far as not referring to after this year……..well you should because that’s what the entire point is. Nobody that uses common sense can tell you that being in the B1G 12 is better than the B1G. I’m not sure who your friends are but maybe you should diversify your circle of friends if they’d rather be in the BIG 12 over the B1G. Might as well destin yourself to G5 then because that’s going to be the difference between the two conferences going forward.