Final 17th on Rivals and 19th on 247.

king_kong_

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Freaking out in June over the recruiting class is just dumb. RELAX
we're so far ahead of where we'd been at this time over the last 6+ years it's absurd

class also looks like we're going to focus on building inside-out instead of outside-in, something we all should appreciate

10 kids from TX + NE. many with much to prove
 

HuskerLLM

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A Fong bomb for Anderson, the Edge out of St Louis that visited earlier in the month...reminder, the dad is a former NFL player and wad highly complimentary of Rhule and Nebraska

Also, doubt Clark and the S From CO leave uncommitted
 

CharlesBronson

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
 
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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess. Top 25 for sure. Maybe top 20.
 
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HuskerLLM

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.

As is the fact recruits will be rated and re-rated throughout the season

Maybe a snapshot now, but Kaelin and Mc Morris for example will rise
 

CharlesBronson

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We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess.
No, I don’t. Scan the list below Nebraska and you’ll find too many perennial top 20 teams with 5+ fewer commits than Nebraska, which will jump many teams currently ahead of them. I counted 14 schools with at least 4 fewer commits, but still have a minimum .2 * higher average. There are a number with a .4 * average advantage.
We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess.
We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess. Top 25 for sure. Maybe top 20.
 
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On Friday, the Huskers landed two more top targets with in-state recruits Isaiah McMorris and Dae'vonn Hall out of Bellevue (Neb.) West joining the fold. They are commits 16 and 17 in a class (the eighth in the last week) that shoots up five spots to No. 17 in the 247Sports Composite Team Recruiting Rankings. McMorris and Hall join their quarterback Daniel Kaelin who is one of the jewels of this group.

“I’m super optimistic and love the direction of the program right now,” Kaelin recently told 247Sports. He’s expecting Nebraska to be competitive right away.
 

timnsun

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
I think most fans understand this… that doesn’t mean the coaches are recruiting hacks either. It’ll come down to development. As long as these coaches can develop the talent they are recruiting, we will be ok. Rhule isn’t know for too 20 classes. But he is known for developing talent. And the guys we have committed seem to have talent.

I’ve been a star watcher in the past, always hopeful for a top 20-25 team. While that would be great if Rhule accomplished this, I’m less concerned about where his class ranks because of his history of developing players.
 

Man Woman & Child

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No, I don’t. Scan the list below Nebraska and you’ll find too many perennial top 20 teams with 5+ fewer commits than Nebraska, which will jump many teams currently ahead of them. I counted 14 schools with at least 4 fewer commits, but still have a minimum .2 * higher average. There are a number with a .4 * average advantage.
Hate to rain on the parade, but you're probably right, unfortunately. Florida St, Ole Miss, Alabama, aTm, Auburn, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas and a few others likely jump us. But there are a few above us who will drop too. Stanford and Minnesota, just to name a couple. Honestly, there are still about 20 uncommitted 5 stars and about 100 uncommitted 4 stars that will almost all commit somewhere other than us. Still early, but yeah top 20 is gonna be pretty tight. But hey, let's enjoy it while it lasts and trust Rhule is getting some diamonds in the rough.
 

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I’d take all these 3 star over the zero star whiny babies on this thread. “Well…we’ll.. we’ve sucked so long why would I be optimistic” “well..well..im not gonna get my hopes up til I see some progress” how about you do this. Take your big cry baby *** bottom lip, pull it up over your head and swallow. I can tell you what doesn’t help the rebuilding of this program. The negative *** mindset and bitching about a proven winner head coach who is pulling in athletic guys who actually WANT to play for the scarlet and cream! GFY and GBR!!!!!
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dinglefritz

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We're also not done yet with commits and reevaluations. You don't think 2 more 4 star commits and 2 more 4 stars bumped will put us into a top 20 class?? We'll have to wait and see I guess. Top 25 for sure. Maybe top 20.
The bottom line for me is trusting that our coaches are better at evaluating recruits than the services are. The rankings are fun but the difference between the 15th ranked class and the 30th ranked class all comes down to your coaches’ evaluation and development.
 

Laner2

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
Not to burst your bubble but Nebraska currently has a number of players (DK, McMorris, et al) who are going to bumped up to four stars in the near future. Oh, and 4 star EDGE Anderson just got a Fongbomb to NU. Keep playin' and welcome to the board.

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maly

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Hopefully as we improve on the field, they will vastly improve in recruiting. Just my opinion, but half of the class can't be guys with 0-1 other Power 5 offers if you expect to play for conference titles. I just think right now this is probably the best this staff can do.

I'm sure some of these guys will turn into decent to really good players, but that's not enough to offset the talent gap with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. If they are willing to "process" out a lot of guys each year for a new group of diamond in the rough guys, then we may be able to be at the top of that second tier of programs in the BIG with this strategy.
 

Huzkers25

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I remember listening to Howard Schnellenberger talk about how he flipped Miami. 1) get the local kids, 2) go after track guys, and 3) get basketball guys. He said some of those guys never touched a football when they were kids. He also wanted his guys to run faster and run around the opposing team. Weights were for the big uglies. Speed kills and it smoked Nebraska in several Orange Bowls.

Jump forward 10 years and Charlie McBride was doing the same thing. Safeties to linebackers, linebackers to rush ends and faster athletes at the corners.

I hate the recruiting hype because it is so damned subjective to personal belief and silly ratings. As far as I’m concerned, let Rhule do it his way. To those guys that say his star rating is lower than Frost or Riley or whoever, so what. At this juncture, different is good until it doesn’t work. Give Rhule a chance and stop comparing him to dipshits like Frost and Riley.
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Huzkers25

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Hopefully as we improve on the field, they will vastly improve in recruiting. Just my opinion, but half of the class can't be guys with 0-1 other Power 5 offers if you expect to play for conference titles. I just think right now this is probably the best this staff can do.

I'm sure some of these guys will turn into decent to really good players, but that's not enough to offset the talent gap with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. If they are willing to "process" out a lot of guys each year for a new group of diamond in the rough guys, then we may be able to be at the top of that second tier of programs in the BIG with this strategy.
How do you figure that? How about I give you some facts:

2019 Baylor football went 11-2. 2016 Baylor had the #40 ranked recruiting class and 2017 class was #39.

They beat Texas 24-10 in 2019. Texas had the #6 recruiting class in 2016.

They also lost two very close games to OU in that same 2019 year, regular season and the big 12 Champ in OT. OU’s classes were #16 and #8.

Let’s pump the brakes on down playing Matt Rhules ability to judge talent and coach.
 
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Man Woman & Child

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How do you figure that? How about I give you some facts:

2019 Baylor football went 11-2. 2016 Baylor had the #40 ranked recruiting class and 2017 class was #39.

They beat Texas 24-10 in 2019. Texas had the #6 recruiting class in 2016.

They also lost two very close games to OU in that same 2019 year, regular season and the big 12 Champ in OT. OU’s classes were #16 and #8.

Let’s pump the brakes on complaining about Matt Rhules ability to judge talent and coach.
He's also never beat a ranked opponent...likely largely due to the talent gap. That said, my hope (strong belief) is that he was never at a place long enough to be able to turn his on field success into bridging that talent gap in recruiting.
 

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Hopefully as we improve on the field, they will vastly improve in recruiting. Just my opinion, but half of the class can't be guys with 0-1 other Power 5 offers if you expect to play for conference titles. I just think right now this is probably the best this staff can do.

I'm sure some of these guys will turn into decent to really good players, but that's not enough to offset the talent gap with Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Penn State. If they are willing to "process" out a lot of guys each year for a new group of diamond in the rough guys, then we may be able to be at the top of that second tier of programs in the BIG with this strategy.


It’s June, these guys will pick up plenty more offers.
 

HuskerLLM

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He's also never beat a ranked opponent...likely largely due to the talent gap. That said, my hope (strong belief) is that he was never at a place long enough to be able to turn his on field success into bridging that talent gap in recruiting.

I don't believe Franklin did at Vandy either, but he obviously has at PSU
 

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I don't believe Franklin did at Vandy either, but he obviously has at PSU

True and Rhule did beat a couple teams that ended up in the Top 25, they just weren’t ranked when Baylor played them. In 2019 they lost to a Top 10 OU team by 3 twice and lost to #5 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl by 12. The only ranked teams he played that year were ranked 6, 10, and 5. That Baylor team was good.
 

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
Oh no. What are we gonna do. Lighten up Francis.
 

CharlesBronson

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Not to burst your bubble but Nebraska currently has a number of players (DK, McMorris, et al) who are going to bumped up to four stars in the near future. Oh, and 4 star EDGE Anderson just got a Fongbomb to NU. Keep playin' and welcome to the board.

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You do recognize that other teams have players who may get bumps, correct?
 

Laner2

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You do recognize that other teams have players who may get bumps, correct?
Bound to happen, but while you mentioned burst bubbles for NU you failed to note that burst bubbles can happen to teams above NU as well.

I tend to get suspicious when a relatively new poster swoops in on a day when NU gets fantastic news to warn about burst bubbles.
 
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HuskerLLM

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You do recognize that other teams have players who may get bumps, correct?

You are acting like our class is going to stay where it is with no forward progress or additions...this is a weird hill to plant a flag on in June

All teams will have movement

Shoot MN spent ALOT of time in the Top 10 last year and tumbled

It is what it is
 

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Not to burst any bubbles, but there are currently 24 teams ranked below Nebraska on Rivals, which have at least two (and in many cases 4 or more) fewer commitments, but a higher average rating. If you’re expecting a top 20 recruiting class you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. The #18 ranking is just a snapshot in time.
Not to burst your bubble. But you just described 90% of CFB teams. You essentially said nothing of substance in your post. Let's see. This is a Husker Board. And recruiting is being discussed. Hmmm another point. This program has been futile for a decade. And Rhule is attempting to establish a foundation. Oh and one more thing. It's JUNE.... You want to troll and post more nonsense. Come back in November when the recruiting picture is a little more clear.

Poor attempt fella
 

dinglefritz

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You do recognize that other teams have players who may get bumps, correct?
And they might have some who get dropped after a weak senior year. We’re talking about analysts who have never coached a game or developed a player. Pffftttt
 

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Not to burst your bubble. But you just described 90% of CFB teams. You essentially said nothing of substance in your post. Let's see. This is a Husker Board. And recruiting is being discussed. Hmmm another point. This program has been futile for a decade. And Rhule is attempting to establish a foundation. Oh and one more thing. It's JUNE.... You want to troll and post more nonsense. Come back in November when the recruiting picture is a little more clear.

Poor attempt fella

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I know some of you won’t want to hear it but this class looks a lot like Iowa’s recruiting. Early commits from solid three star local athletes. A high rating early on, but once the perennial powers start filling out their classes, that rating will drop.

It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.

Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
 

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I know some of you won’t want to hear it but this class looks a lot like Iowa’s recruiting. Early commits from solid three star local athletes. A high rating early on, but once the perennial powers start filling out their classes, that rating will drop.

It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.

Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
Thanks for sharing.
 

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I know some of you won’t want to hear it but this class looks a lot like Iowa’s recruiting. Early commits from solid three star local athletes. A high rating early on, but once the perennial powers start filling out their classes, that rating will drop.

It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.

Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
Of course you have a concern about Nebraska recruiting players with speed. You’re an Iowa fan.
 

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I know some of you won’t want to hear it but this class looks a lot like Iowa’s recruiting. Early commits from solid three star local athletes. A high rating early on, but once the perennial powers start filling out their classes, that rating will drop.

It’s not a bad formula. It’s different for Nebraska. You aren’t going to have high ceiling guys but you will probably get guys who are willing to buy into the system as long as Rhule can develop them. I think it’s a really good thing.

Really, the only concern I see, is Rhule is really making speed the main factor on a lot of these recruits, which probably worked well in the B12, but I’m not sure that’s going to work quite as well in the B10 where most teams are large and will have really solid line play and pro style game plans.
Cool story.
 

ExcellentBread

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Of course you have a concern about Nebraska recruiting players with speed. You’re an Iowa fan.
Iowa State mostly, but yeah. ISU started recruiting faster players less regionally and they started doing well in conference but still had trouble with Iowa. The only time ISU seems to get Iowa is when ISU has an above average line. Spectacular position players make a team great in the B12 but line play is what seems to win in the B10.

My bad for sharing an opinion.
 

Laner2

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Iowa State mostly, but yeah. ISU started recruiting faster players less regionally and they started doing well in conference but still had trouble with Iowa. The only time ISU seems to get Iowa is when ISU has an above average line. Spectacular position players make a team great in the B12 but line play is what seems to win in the B10.

My bad for sharing an opinion.
Every word of my response to you is now more valid than before.
 

phoenix4nu

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Iowa State mostly, but yeah. ISU started recruiting faster players less regionally and they started doing well in conference but still had trouble with Iowa. The only time ISU seems to get Iowa is when ISU has an above average line. Spectacular position players make a team great in the B12 but line play is what seems to win in the B10.

My bad for sharing an opinion.
Iowa couldn't stop Trey Palmer last year. I don't have any concern with recruiting speed and playing that speed against a slow team like Iowa.