Fred Hoiberg is done after this season, right?

moralvictories

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I don’t know about that. He was inconsistent here, but he overall has been effective at every stop.

For us he put together 2 19 win seasons, a 22 win season, and won Big 10 coach of the year.

I think he was and is a good coach. People liked him too.
Tim Miles got Nebraska to the NCAA tournament once and the NIT 3 times in his 7 years of coaching at Nebraska. Making the post season 4 times in 7 years is success by Nebraska basketball metrics.
 

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Tim Miles got Nebraska to the NCAA tournament once and the NIT 3 times in his 7 years of coaching at Nebraska. Making the post season 4 times in 7 years is success by Nebraska basketball metrics.
I thought we were the only team never to make the tournament? Or was it never win a game in the tournament?
 

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I don’t know about that. He was inconsistent here, but he overall has been effective at every stop.

For us he put together 2 19 win seasons, a 22 win season, and won Big 10 coach of the year.

I think he was and is a good coach. People liked him too.
I liked him too but the results were not great. Sorry, Nebraska is a Big 10 program and if you get 7 years and can’t deliver the ever-elusive tournament win then it’s time to move on. Maybe he wasn’t terrible but he had his opportunity and I think it’s wrong to think that Hoiberg’s failure means we should’ve kept Miles. We just hired the wrong guy.
 
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Slightly less pathetic
Danny Nee had NU in the big dance 4 straight years, and 5 times out of 8 in the 90s, with a seeding as high as #3. In one of the years they didn't make the big dance, they won the NIT. This was all without the facilities and resources that Fred now has (and Miles). The potential is there for the right coach.
 

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I liked him too but the results were not great. Sorry, Nebraska is a Big 10 program and if you get 7 years and can’t deliver the ever-elusive tournament win then it’s time to move on. Maybe he wasn’t terrible but he had his opportunity and I think it’s wrong to think that Hoiberg’s failure means we should’ve kept Miles. We just hired the wrong guy.
yep

more than half the teams in the B1G get a bid. zero reason we can't be in that non-exclusive group
 

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Danny Nee had NU in the big dance 4 straight years, and 5 times out of 8 in the 90s, with a seeding as high as #3. In one of the years they didn't make the big dance, they won the NIT. This was all without the facilities and resources that Fred now has (and Miles). The potential is there for the right coach.
Danny Née I suspect wasn’t above paying handlers of recruits. My suspicion is that Doc and Miles wouldn’t. I’m not sure what Fred’s issue is. With what we’re paying him he should be handing out giant bags of cash to recruits’ mommas. I think Fred wants to win but maybe just not badly enough
 

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I liked him too but the results were not great. Sorry, Nebraska is a Big 10 program and if you get 7 years and can’t deliver the ever-elusive tournament win then it’s time to move on. Maybe he wasn’t terrible but he had his opportunity and I think it’s wrong to think that Hoiberg’s failure means we should’ve kept Miles. We just hired the wrong guy.
Danny Nee had arguably better talent on his teams than Tim Miles and even he couldn't get a win in the NCAA tournament.
 

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Danny Nee had arguably better talent on his teams than Tim Miles and even he couldn't get a win in the NCAA tournament.
Agreed. Doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be the goal or expectation at a Big 10 program after 7 years.
 

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Danny Nee had arguably better talent on his teams than Tim Miles and even he couldn't get a win in the NCAA tournament.
I don't think that's arguable

Nee had multiple NBA draft picks throughout his tenure, including first rounders. Miles had one
 

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I don't know how anyone thinks we should have kept Miles when you look at the roster he left Hoiberg: Thor and Dachon Burke? Really? He would have been lucky to win 1 Big Ten game in 2019-2020 if he returned. Once Craig Smith left, Miles went downhill, other than one season where the schedule was so bad that he barely made the NIT with 22 wins.
 

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I don't know how anyone thinks we should have kept Miles when you look at the roster he left Hoiberg: Thor and Dachon Burke? Really? He would have been lucky to win 1 Big Ten game in 2019-2020 if he returned. Once Craig Smith left, Miles went downhill, other than one season where the schedule was so bad that he barely made the NIT with 22 wins.
To be fair to Timmie, the reason that roster was left that way was that our AD had cut his sack with the contract wrangling. Miles lost his best recruiters largely because Eichorst was screwing with Miles. Their public feud killed recruiting. In hindsight, Miles was the best coach we had at NU since Nee.....:(
 

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I don't think that's arguable

Nee had multiple NBA draft picks throughout his tenure, including first rounders. Miles had one
Nee was able to keep local talent like Strickland, Boone,Woolridge etc. And snag a few like Venson Hamilton and Lue. Was able to grab Piakowski when Notre Dame made a coaching change. Couldn't get along with Woolridge so he left for Iowa City and was all BIG a couple of years. Plenty of talent that he recruited but unfortunately was a weak fundamental coach.
 

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To be fair to Timmie, the reason that roster was left that way was that our AD had cut his sack with the contract wrangling. Miles lost his best recruiters largely because Eichorst was screwing with Miles. Their public feud killed recruiting. In hindsight, Miles was the best coach we had at NU since Nee.....:(

Miles had a lower winning percentage here than Doc.

People think Miles is a good coach because the team got hot for one month in 2014. In reality, he was not good. He lost at home to teams like Gardner-Webb, Incarnate Word, Samford, Kent State. Then factor in that he had amazing new facilities to work with, while Doc and Collier had to practice in Mabel Lee Hall.
 

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Agreed. Doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be the goal or expectation at a Big 10 program after 7 years.
Perhaps as a program, we should be happy making the NCAA tournament a couple times a decade and qualifying for postseason tournaments about every other year.
 

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I don't know how anyone thinks we should have kept Miles when you look at the roster he left Hoiberg: Thor and Dachon Burke? Really? He would have been lucky to win 1 Big Ten game in 2019-2020 if he returned. Once Craig Smith left, Miles went downhill, other than one season where the schedule was so bad that he barely made the NIT with 22 wins.
13-5 conference record. The non conference schedule was crap but going 13-5 in the B1G is nothing to sneeze at.
 
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Miles had a lower winning percentage here than Doc.

People think Miles is a good coach because the team got hot for one month in 2014. In reality, he was not good. He lost at home to teams like Gardner-Webb, Incarnate Word, Samford, Kent State. Then factor in that he had amazing new facilities to work with, while Doc and Collier had to practice in Mabel Lee Hall.
Moe Iba used practices at Mabel Lee Hall as a strategic advantage - just ask the Daily Nebraskan. Note: this is sarcastic post that only old-timers will understand.
 
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I liked him too but the results were not great. Sorry, Nebraska is a Big 10 program and if you get 7 years and can’t deliver the ever-elusive tournament win then it’s time to move on. Maybe he wasn’t terrible but he had his opportunity and I think it’s wrong to think that Hoiberg’s failure means we should’ve kept Miles. We just hired the wrong guy.
Husker fanbase has a weird obsession for pining for the last loser, because of the current losers performance
 

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we fired a guy who got us over .500 in the league

is this really how far we've fallen? "might be the guy to get us to .500?"

jeez. has there ever been a more pathetic opinion in the history of humanity?

if so, I'd like to see it
Yes, Mr. Hyperbole, there have been at least 2, maybe 3, other opinions in the history of humanity that I would consider more pathetic.
 

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Moe Iba used practices at Mabel Lee Hall as a strategic advantage - just ask the Daily Nebraskan. Note: this is sarcastic post that only old-timers will understand.
Like when he locked the doors and covered up windows while having his team practice on illegal dates.
 

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Lunardi has 9 big ten teams projected in the tourney
after Purdue - teams 2-10/11 are all basically the same mediocre team

really wish the NCAA tourney would go more mid major heavy to fill out the brackets rather than middle of the road power conf teams
 

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Exactly right about other schools who don't seem to have any problems turning things around and sustaining success.

Jerome Tang is in year one at K-State and they only returned two players from a very below average team last year, and has them 18-3 and ranked in the top five. He brought legit recruiters with him and focused on jucos and transfers.

I'm so sick of the excuses from this program. If you can do it in places like the sh*thole that is Manhattan, KS, then you can do it anywhere.
Lol, someone from "Stinkin" Nebrasky making fun of Manhattan.
 

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Lol, someone from "Stinkin" Nebrasky making fun of Manhattan.
I'm from Kansas and have lived in Kansas the majority of my life outside an 8 year period in Dallas, TX. Manhattan is one of the worst college towns I've ever been to and their fans are delusional idiots who never shut up. So yes, if you can win in that sh*thole you can win anywhere.
 

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I'm from Kansas and have lived in Kansas the majority of my life outside an 8 year period in Dallas, TX. Manhattan is one of the worst college towns I've ever been to and their fans are delusional idiots who never shut up. So yes, if you can win in that sh*thole
 

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Meter, is your IQ above room temperature? Your previous posts suggest otherwise.
him saying the little apple is a ******** puts him in the "human being with 2 eyes & a functioning brain" category

anyone whose opinion differs should be prosecuted immediately for pre crime (or, in your case, for operating an active meth lab out of his dead & decaying grandmother's trailer)
 

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him saying the little apple is a ******** puts him in the "human being with 2 eyes & a functioning brain" category

anyone whose opinion differs should be prosecuted immediately for pre crime (or, in your case, for operating an active meth lab out of his dead & decaying grandmother's trailer)
 

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Now I'm totally convinced that the big red "N" stands for knowledge! Not exactly original but oh so accurate!
you literally have failed to click a single button & type your thoughts not once but twice

fantastic work, as always, mushbrained ksu fan

enjoy being born, living and dying totally unnoticed in the middle of dust country just like all your ancestors & your children

there has never been a more inconsequential place on the planet. your hero is a 100 year old lesbian who never won ****.

I look forward to soaking bill snyder's grave in piss one day
 

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you literally have failed to click a single button & type your thoughts not once but twice

fantastic work, as always, mushbrained ksu fan

enjoy being born, living and dying totally unnoticed in the middle of dust country just like all your ancestors & your children

there has never been a more inconsequential place on the planet. your hero is a 100 year old lesbian who never won ****

you won't be missed
Butt hurt much? Go get some anal ease.