What do you think about these BOB threads
- Thread starter Husker Todd_rivals48744
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Seems like lottsa Penn St fans think very highly of BOB....I was impressed with the ratio and enjoyed reading one of their threads on the possibility of him landing here.
I'm starting to come around to the idea.. he might be the lowest risk, highest reward candidate.
In stock market trading terms, I'm always looking for a trade with a good risk to reward ratio. When applying this metric to the head coaching search, BOB is up there in the top 3.
Risk can be defined at risk in something going wrong or at minimum, the price you have to pay, per level of performance.
Urban, BOB and MJ.. all have fairly low risk to reward profiles.
It sort of depends on how you weigh things.
Urban carries some risk, and maybe has the highest risk of something going wrong, but also has the highest reward.
BOB is less risk than Urban, and probably less reward than Urban too.
MJ is even less risky for fitment and money terms but we don't know where the reward ceiling is.. so in another way, it adds to his risk profile, but you can't discount the improvements we have seen and the value of continuity going forward.
The analyst version of me likes the BOB risk profile. The gut feel part of me likes MJ. The gambler in me wants it all in Urban.
I think having an opinion that's counter to others on a message board filled with opinions is totally cause to start a douche-y BOB thread, Todd.
Well said. I actually tend to agree on all counts.
Except I think Mickey is a pretty big risk, as he has very little experience, but potentially has a very high ceiling with his recruiting ability.
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Calm down grandpa, it was all in fun. I guess someone has got to be get off my lawn guy.
Okay Zoomer. Someone has to be the douche. Grats. Don't worry though, you're not alone. A week ago the fickle Mary's had mostly come to the conclusion he wasn't our guy. One person posts unsubstantiated rumor and BANDWAGON DEPLOYED.Calm down grandpa, it was all in fun. I guess someone has got to be get off my lawn guy.
NEXT!
His resume is head and shoulders better than anybody not named Urban. The problem might end up trying to outbid Auburn or somebody else. A lot can happen over the next 6 weeks.
How crazy would it be to hire BOB (while retaining Micky Joseph) and he builds up the program on some solid foundation and then bolts to the NFL after 4ish-5ish years and hands the reigns off to Micky so he has an actual foundation to blast off from
If he gets called up to the nfl, it means he's doing a heck of a job in Nebraska.
So the job has to be earned first?
Tell me what is required to earn the job?
Remember, whatever your 'excuse' is, it has to apply to Frank, Bill, Bo, Mike, & Scott..
This. You hear about coaches-in-waiting from time to time. This could be applied to a number of other HC candidates as well.
It was screwed up starting with the anointing of Frank by FHCTO without a search. Mack Brown, Bob Stoops maybe.
FADSP totally jacked up the search and ended up with Billy fvckin hillbillies Callahan. Awesome recruiter and o line coach not so much headcoach.
ADTO had better choices than Pelini and when he hired him was so damn tight the assistants sucked for the most part. The best one was a better coaching version of Coach Fraud (carl).
Mike Riley a hell of a good man a .500 coach and that's what Nebraska got. Again after a another crappy search do you see a pattern here?
And now the coach we all wanted almost to a person including me. Again no real coaching search. We end up with a lazy drunken womanizer.
Moral of the story is a real HC search and the hiring of the very best candidate and assistants no expense spared. Not some syrupy sentimental choice.
God I F'n hated that movie. I went and saw it because BILL MURRAY and at the time he was still somewhat funny but GD that was an unfunny waste of time.
This is all a great rant and such, and I don't discount what you're saying, but earlier you said the job needed to be earned. You still haven't provided those metrics.
Head coaches are human beings. Everyone thought SF was the next coming of TO when he was hired.
There are very few slam dunks, you just keep trying until you get it right. We have pretty much tried everything. From big bucks, to going 'cheap' from guys with lots of experience, to guys with little experience. Up and comming types to over the hill ones.
You do the best you can given the situation and hope for the best.
Also the AD has a lot of weight (good and bad).. there were times we didn't have a great pool of coaches to poach from with the AD we had at the time. They can negatively influence the desirability of the job just as much as they can positively.
There are not too many coaches who would want to work directly under Tom as the AD.. and yet Bo had the most success we have had since Tom gave up coaching.
I get your frustration, but the way things have been handled with the mess that was dropped on MJ, tells me he is at a minimum going to be an effective head coach. It tells me he is not a dumpster fire that Frost turned out to be, and that cost us what, $35 million to find out.
Getting back to where things used to be, may not be so easy.. right now, I'd be fine just getting to a bowl game and working towards having winning seasons. The long term standard should not be lowered, but you can't set the bar like it used to be when the current situation is a team struggling to make .500, which is incidently better than 3-9 last year.
This is a 'cheap' interview this year, and so far I think MJ has done an admirable job. I have stated on this board multiple times, that I want to see MJ's long term staff wish list/or plans, as well as his recruiting not only hold together, but what his plans are for the portal to elevate the talent for next year.
It's obvious he can run the team and handle the press and all the day to day stuff. But I want to see what his plan is to go from a .500 to a .750 winning percentage.
You get a couple more guys like Trey Palmer, and shore up the lines, and that can start pushing you towards the old standard pretty quickly.
Only Trev is going get that assessment directly from MJ, and so you have to have faith that he will make the right call on that, either way it goes.
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completely agree.. this is super important and why I want to know what MJ's long term staff will look like.
you have to hire head coaches that want to bring in the best guys available..
some guys are not going to hire guys that they perceive could be a threat to them.. this happens in regular jobs all the time and you can't hire a head coach like that.. he has to be fearless in getting the best available position coaches out there.
Nice rant also......we can and should strive for the very best avaliable here at Nebraska.
We have tried the sentimental choices, the cheap choice, the last resort choice, the favorite son choice, oh and the hell of a nice guy choice.
At this crossroads Nebraska has a golden opportunity to knock it out of the park. Lets not be cheap or sentimental.
Hire a proven program builder and winner at different levels of the coaching food chain.
It's up to Trev I'm certain he is not a cheap sentimental fool.
Coming from a guy that uses his partners bikini pic as his profile pic, I'm sure you're qualified to judge fools.
His partner's bikini pic? I guess that's possible if he considers a picture from the internet to be his partner.
That is actually a point in his favor...AKA, mad props!!!!
....and what's wrong with using your cute wife for a sig pic?
