Frost didn't have zero pressure at UCF but inheriting a team that was 0-12 was as close to it as you could come. Without Milton whom he recruited I doubt if Frost would have had near the success he had at UCF. It still is confusing and disappointing why he couldn't be more successful at Nebraska.
Why did Scott Frost fail?
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IF Mickey were to get the gig permanently, would you supper him bringing Vance in as DC?
It's all very baffling to me. He knew what made NU successful in the past (he was part of it as a player). He knew that successful NU football had specific cornerstones i.e. aggressive defense, strong running game, and of course a powerful and nasty line. He knew what failed with previous coaches e.g. BC not understanding Nebraska and sticking with his buddy Cosgrove, BP not recruiting well, and not embracing Nebraska, MR not having a great strength and conditioning program and just being too soft. Considering our games were so close against legit opponents last year e.g. OU, Mich, OSU, Mich St., etc. were SO close, it felt like he was on the right track! If the rumors are true, then that is really unsettling and upsetting and I have no way to dispute said rumors. I had really thought and hoped it would work out and he would be successful at DONU for years to come. 
I'd chalk it up to some personal issues and lack of being a grinder. Scott was probably putting 50 to 60 hours a week in. Which sounds like a lot but as a coach that's basically part time. Power 5 head coaches need to be putting in anywhere from 15 to 17 hours a day in season. Scott had plenty of hobbies outside of coaching. You can't do that in today's game. Not when Pat Fitzgerald and PJ Fleck and Paul Chryst are working 100 hours a week. Theres a video on youtube of Chris Petersen day in the life when he was at Washington. basic fall camp day nothing special. 15 hours. Being a head coach sounds glamorous huge money fame glory. It's a complete and total grind. Scott wasnt up for it.
I doubt too many Nebraska fans are even thinking about National Championships at this point - I doubt I'll see us win another one in my lifetime. I think a coach that regularly got us ranked in the top 15 in the year end polls would be considered a huge success - routinely beat all the teams in the current Big 10 except OSU, Michigan, and Penn State and sometimes beat the latter three (more likely the latter two).
I agree. We’re going to have to hope for Pelini type seasons without the blowouts and bad attitude. Sometimes we might even go farther.
Yes ! ! ! If you knew his father, he couldn't have been any other way !!! You nailed it bro !!!
But he was a lot better talent than Nebraska got out of him.
How do you rationalize a coach who ignores incredibly bad ST for 4 years before finally fixing them?
Yep. The team always collapsed and choked in the 4th quarter. There was a serious lack of mental toughness on his teams and that starts at the top. They just didn't know how to close games.
Right, but in the right situation with better coaching Martinez is the QB of a 5-1 team. Martinez also hasn't thrown an interception all year.
Yep and I have nothing against Amart. I feel bad for the kid wasting 4 years under Frost. He had a huge upside if he actually had some coaching that could develop him earlier in his career.
But Martinez seems to be pretty darn good down at KSU. Don't know much about their team but having a good Oline goes a long way to making a QB looking good. We never had a good Oline during the entire time Martinez was at NU. I have no idea why Frost failed. Probably many reasons and some are certainly on him but my guess we will know much more in say about 5 years under a new coach.
Everything came easy to him. A favorite Native son, we’d give him plenty of rope.
Frost had complete teams that helped make him very successful. No doubt his old Husker teammates made him,
I’d love to see this team rally around Coach Joseph & believe in themselves, not give up as under frost.
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Frost had complete teams that helped make him very successful. No doubt his old Husker teammates made him,
I’d love to see this team rally around Coach Joseph & believe in themselves, not give up as under frost.
GBR! USA # 1
There are probably a plethora of things. One might be his lacking in knowing what he needs talent wise to run his offense. The idea was, you have your OL engage their man for a second and then let them through. This gets them in your backfield while your quick witted, accurate qb whips it out to a speedster in space with a minimum of defenders. When the defense tries to adjust you run quick draws to keep them off balance. This teeter totters throughout the game. It's actually not a bad offense if you have that qb and good skill players.
So, he unexplainably focuses on recruiting qb's the direct opposite of what he needed and then tried to force square pegs in that round hole.
AM, then the skinny fast legacy kid who wasn't anywhere near what he needed, even less so than AM. In fact his only other serious recruit wasn't even a real qb at all. The only other qb's brought here were long term projects that should probably transfer to a lesser division, even then I don't know if they'll find success anywhere.
AM is a one trick pony who plays for a coach who understands his horse. He is limited to quick, low risk throws and purposeful runs. Frost never understood what he had. His offense just degraded into a lot of qb draws and poor reads.
So, he unexplainably focuses on recruiting qb's the direct opposite of what he needed and then tried to force square pegs in that round hole.
AM, then the skinny fast legacy kid who wasn't anywhere near what he needed, even less so than AM. In fact his only other serious recruit wasn't even a real qb at all. The only other qb's brought here were long term projects that should probably transfer to a lesser division, even then I don't know if they'll find success anywhere.
AM is a one trick pony who plays for a coach who understands his horse. He is limited to quick, low risk throws and purposeful runs. Frost never understood what he had. His offense just degraded into a lot of qb draws and poor reads.
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Three things (the same things Alberts used to FINALLY get through to the frosturbator boosters)
1. Lazy
2. Stubborn
3. Entitled
This is verbatim what finally flipped enough of them after another **** start to a season.
1. Lazy
2. Stubborn
3. Entitled
This is verbatim what finally flipped enough of them after another **** start to a season.
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Haven’t been on the Fee board for a while, but money on the post. All 3 are correct.
I didn’t read all the post so I apologize if this has already been brought up….
I believe he failed because he did not have a model for the offense he wanted to run. He tried to be innovative combining what he ran at Oregon and UCF with a power run type concept, with more QB runs incorporated.
no one really runs that offense so he had no clue on success. When it didn’t work as he planned, he was then stuck trying to fix it. The defense wasn’t as good as it needed to be to run the Oregon/ UCF tempo stuff. Look at OU game this year. So he tried to go to more QB centric run game and slow the game down.
Add in all of the other things like lack of attention to detail, extracurricular activities and lack of experience in the coaching staff and he got what he got.
I believe he failed because he did not have a model for the offense he wanted to run. He tried to be innovative combining what he ran at Oregon and UCF with a power run type concept, with more QB runs incorporated.
no one really runs that offense so he had no clue on success. When it didn’t work as he planned, he was then stuck trying to fix it. The defense wasn’t as good as it needed to be to run the Oregon/ UCF tempo stuff. Look at OU game this year. So he tried to go to more QB centric run game and slow the game down.
Add in all of the other things like lack of attention to detail, extracurricular activities and lack of experience in the coaching staff and he got what he got.
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Stick to sports outfits, buffets, and early bedtimes. Don’t forget the Metamucil. Those are the only things you have any credit left to comment on. It’s hard to be as wrong about everything over the years like you have been, but it’s what you do. By all means, keep posting to keep up that impressive streak
More drivel from numbers boy.. Isn’t time you start another hate Scott Frost thread…Seeing it’s the only thing you’re obsessed with...
P.S I love the team wearing strips again don’t you.Winking
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One could write a novel from the list of Frost’s failures in Lincoln. He was truly that bad here.
In summary I’d say…
Arrogance - Frost assumed his system was so good that it could overcome lack of practice, lack of detail (special teams), lack of player development.
He underestimated The BIG-10. He was the one who failed to adjust.
Very poor choices in staff. Most on his staff had no business coaching at the FBS level.
In summary I’d say…
Arrogance - Frost assumed his system was so good that it could overcome lack of practice, lack of detail (special teams), lack of player development.
He underestimated The BIG-10. He was the one who failed to adjust.
Very poor choices in staff. Most on his staff had no business coaching at the FBS level.
When he said at the beginning that he wouldn't adjust, the B10 would have to adjust to him, I just rolled my eyes.
I should have also. I must admit after the Riley years, I was pumped up to hear Frost say that. But sadly it became clear he was so in over his head.When he said at the beginning that he wouldn't adjust, the B10 would have to adjust to him, I just rolled my eyes.
He never said that he wouldn’t adjust.. But NO question about it he made the commit the B1G 10 will need to adjust to him..When he said at the beginning that he wouldn't adjust, the B10 would have to adjust to him, I just rolled my eyes.
This. I spent the last two weekends with a buddy who coaches NAIA and the number of hours the coaches put in is incredible even at that level. The team is good, top ten nationally.
I would add that at each level you go up, the attention to detail increases. Those things that were easily overcome at a lower level get exposed in a hurry playing big boy ball.
Coaches like to find their niche and comfort level, it isn't always greener at the top and some simply can't handle it.
