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Leipold, this sounds like Bob Devaney:
--couple years at Wyoming, bolt for Nebraska
--that generation of Wyoming fans still mad to this day

Kansas fans would probably feel the same. Nebraska fans hopefully another rebirth
 

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steinek11

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Leipold, this sounds like Bob Devaney:
--couple years at Wyoming, bolt for Nebraska
--that generation of Wyoming fans still mad to this day

Kansas fans would probably feel the same. Nebraska fans hopefully another rebirth
I've been perusing a few of their fan YouTube channels and podcasts. The fans are scared of us poaching him for sure.

They think they will match any offers we make to him 😂
 

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Not sold on him.

Would rather have a coach that's seen championships and big time talent.
 

steinek11

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Not sold on him.

Would rather have a coach that's seen championships and big time talent.
You're in luck. He's won six national championships.

Jim tressell was the coach at Youngstown State before becoming the head guy at thee Ohio State.

I don't know why this is so hard for some of you guys to understand. When you build a winning culture and stack up wins like cordwood, great players want to play for you. When that happens, you are more selective about who you take.

Our brand, our fanbase, and our resources plus a coach that knows WTF he is doing equals great things.
 

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You're in luck. He's won six national championships.

Jim tressell was the coach at Youngstown State before becoming the head guy at thee Ohio State.

I don't know why this is so hard for some of you guys to understand. When you build a winning culture and stack up wins like cordwood, great players want to play for you. When that happens, you are more selective about who you take.

Our brand, our fanbase, and our resources plus a coach that knows WTF he is doing equals great things.

Lol....really. What major program did he win these at as the HC, OC or DC
 

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He's been successful everywhere he's been plus not the easiest places to recruit to

Again what major program are we talking about.

Its Kansas who gets up to play Kansas.

We are giving credit for over achieving at Kansas

They were a regular top 25 program in the 90s.

Hit me up when Kansas is in a major bowl or wins a conference championship.

The list is long of the flame out coaches that were successful at smaller programs when they hit the big time.
 

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Lol....really. What major program did he win these at as the HC, OC or DC
That's not what you asked. I suppose if I wanted to engage, I could create a massive list of sure things that totally flamed out. Let's start with just one name. Scott Frost. Took a division one team to an undefeated season. Five uearss later and his name is reviled by Husker fans everywhere. You need to go deeper and understand the psychology of winning. There's only one person that qualifies as having won at the highest levels and recruited very well, and that scumbag isn't coming here, so just give it up
 

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That's not what you asked. I suppose if I wanted to engage, I could create a massive list of sure things that totally flamed out. Let's start with just one name. Scott Frost. Took a division one team to an undefeated season. Five uearss later and his name is reviled by Husker fans everywhere. You need to go deeper and understand the psychology of winning. There's only one person that qualifies as having won at the highest levels and recruited very well, and that scumbag isn't coming here, so just give it up

I said big time talent and championships

That's only at major programs.

Frost had a few good players at a G5 school

Granite he coached at Oregon. That's not even really big time to be honest.
 

steinek11

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Again what major program are we talking about.

Its Kansas who gets up to play Kansas.

We are giving credit for over achieving at Kansas

They were a regular top 25 program in the 90s.

Hit me up when Kansas is in a major bowl or wins a conference championship.

The list is long of the flame out coaches that were successful at smaller programs when they hit the big time.
You're talking nonsense. Kansas had one good season, 2007. Look at how bad they have been forever

They were 3 and 27 the last 3 years. Now it's year two under LL and they're kicking the s*** out of teams. Not squeaking by, but lighting them up. The fabulous Les Miles who won a national championship at LSU, was complete hot garbage at Kansas. He ruined himself by taking that job. Couldn't do a damn thing for them. You're vastly under selling LL and what he is able to accomplish.
 

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I said big time talent and championships

That's only at major programs.

Frost had a few good players at a G5 school

Granite he coached at Oregon. That's not even really big time to be honest.

I knew what you meant, but here's what you said

"Would rather have a coach that's seen championships and big time talent"

We've got the opportunity to get a program builder who will build our team for the long run, not just the hopes of getting back to a big 10 title game.
 

steinek11

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I said big time talent and championships

That's only at major programs.

Frost had a few good players at a G5 school

Granite he coached at Oregon. That's not even really big time to be honest.

Plus, the guy you are pining for doesn't exist. Your eggs are all in the Urban Meyer basket and like I've said before that ain't happening. He knows he can do better.
 

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You're talking nonsense. Kansas had one good season, 2007. Look at how bad they have been forever

They were 3 and 27 the last 3 years. Now it's year two under LL and they're kicking the s*** out of teams. Not squeaking by, but lighting them up. The fabulous Les Miles who won a national championship at LSU, was complete hot garbage at Kansas. He ruined himself by taking that job. Couldn't do a damn thing for them. You're vastly under selling LL and what he is able to accomplish.

So you dont remember the top 10 team we beat in the 90s?

You are proving my point. Lead them to a major bowl or conference championship then we can talk.

But being 3-0 means nothing.
 

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Plus, the guy you are pining for doesn't exist. Your eggs are all in the Urban Meyer basket and like I've said before that ain't happening. He knows he can do better.

OC or DC at Bama, Georgia, Ohio St.?
I actually hope Mickey is successful the


I'm saying we should shoot as high as possible and work our way down.

Not what would be a so called good fit.

That hasnt worked for us.
 

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You're in luck. He's won six national championships.

Jim tressell was the coach at Youngstown State before becoming the head guy at thee Ohio State.

I don't know why this is so hard for some of you guys to understand. When you build a winning culture and stack up wins like cordwood, great players want to play for you. When that happens, you are more selective about who you take.

Our brand, our fanbase, and our resources plus a coach that knows WTF he is doing equals great things.
Coaching in Lincoln is a much more different animal than Whitewater WI. Guy has never coached on the big stage. Went 2-10 Last year and it took him a while to get things going in Buffalo. Last thing we need to do is go after this years flavor of the year and ignore what the person did the year before. Plus he’s got A LOT of football ahead of him. KU could easily go on a 7 game losing streak starting Oct 1. Would you want him if KU goes 5-7 this year?
 

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So you dont remember the top 10 team we beat in the 90s?

You are proving my point. Lead them to a major bowl or conference championship then we can talk.

But being 3-0 means nothing.
I can't believe you're making an argument for Kansas's reign of dominance in the 90s. One good team that beat the hell out of Bill Callahan, I think we fired him right after that game.

There's no shortage of former coordinators for Alabama that have gone on to be head coaches and then were fired. Plus these are good old boys who think that the civil war is still happening. They don't get Nebraska in the Midwest. The only thing they would appeal to them would be big piles of cash.

Not sure how old you are, but you'll probably come to a point in your life where you appreciate the value of fit.
 

steinek11

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Coaching in Lincoln is a much more different animal than Whitewater WI. Guy has never coached on the big stage. Went 2-10 Last year and it took him a while to get things going in Buffalo. Last thing we need to do is go after this years flavor of the year and ignore what the person did the year before. Plus he’s got A LOT of football ahead of him. KU could easily go on a 7 game losing streak starting Oct 1. Would you want him if KU goes 5-7 this year?
Pretty hard to answer hypotheticals. But we've been winning three games a year for the last 5 years. We'll probably win one this year. Whoever coach is next year will probably win 6 if he's lucky and good.

Coming from division 3, you're not in high demand with Big Time schools, see you end up at Buffalo where he turned them around. Look at their record, they are historically one of the worst teams in college football. Kansas is one of the worst teams in the history of college football. This guy is a glutton for punishment.
 

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I can't believe you're making an argument for Kansas's reign of dominance in the 90s. One good team that beat the hell out of Bill Callahan, I think we fired him right after that game.

There's no shortage of former coordinators for Alabama that have gone on to be head coaches and then were fired. Plus these are good old boys who think that the civil war is still happening. They don't get Nebraska in the Midwest. The only thing they would appeal to them would be big piles of cash.

Not sure how old you are, but you'll probably come to a point in your life where you appreciate the value of fit.

Fit means nothing in sports.

Can you produce is all that matters.
 

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OC or DC at Bama, Georgia, Ohio St.?
I actually hope Mickey is successful the


I'm saying we should shoot as high as possible and work our way down.

Not what would be a so called good fit.

That hasnt worked for us.
I hate it when people complain but have no solution. Tell us, who do you want as the next head coach for Nebraska?
 

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I hate it when people complain but have no solution. Tell us, who do you want as the next head coach for Nebraska?

The best available candidate.

I'd ask one of the best college coaches of all time if he wanted the job first then move on from there.
 

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The best available candidate.

I'd ask one of the best college coaches of all time if he wanted the job first then move on from there.
And what is his name? I know you can do it, just type it out.
 

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I hate it when people complain but have no solution. Tell us, who do you want as the next head coach for Nebraska?
I'm fine with a "Leipold" type but would rather have a "Gundy" type. There's a different level of guy who has proven it through more than one year of success in BIG TIME college football. Sorry, success at Buffalo and three games at Kansas isn't the same. It just isn't. Leipold is a still a risk that I'd rather not take this time around.

Names? Gundy, Rhule, Peterson, M. Stoops, Campbell, Fickell, O'Brien, Mullen... there's more but those guys are all on a different level than Leipold. I'll be a Lance Leipold guy if he's hired but I'm hoping for better.
 

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I'm fine with a "Leipold" type but would rather have a "Gundy" type. There's a different level of guy who has proven it through more than one year of success in BIG TIME college football. Sorry, success at Buffalo and three games at Kansas isn't the same. It just isn't. Leipold is a still a risk that I'd rather not take this time around.

Names? Gundy, Rhule, Peterson, M. Stoops, Campbell, Fickell, O'Brien, Mullen... there's more but those guys are all on a different level than Leipold. I'll be a Lance Leipold guy if he's hired but I'm hoping for better.
The only guy in that list who might have turned Buffalo around is probably Rhule. Mullens couldn't even hold down the job at florida, one of the best resourced and talent-rich programs in the nation. I'd argue none of those clowns are on Leipolds level. Not one of them has won a championship.
 

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I'm fine with a "Leipold" type but would rather have a "Gundy" type. There's a different level of guy who has proven it through more than one year of success in BIG TIME college football. Sorry, success at Buffalo and three games at Kansas isn't the same. It just isn't. Leipold is a still a risk that I'd rather not take this time around.

Names? Gundy, Rhule, Peterson, M. Stoops, Campbell, Fickell, O'Brien, Mullen... there's more but those guys are all on a different level than Leipold. I'll be a Lance Leipold guy if he's hired but I'm hoping for better.
Not really talking about posters like you, you make your choices know. I'm talking about posters who argue with other posters but never have solutions like who they favor as the next HC. I just don't understand why some posters won't name a name, maybe they're afraid they'll get hammered by those who disagree and can't stand the idea of people finding their responses nonsense. I will respect anyone who has the guts and sticks to their beliefs even if they don't match up with mine.
 

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Fit matters in every single aspect of life

I said sports

A good fit can be someone who can get along with his teammates but does nothing to produce on the field.

Dennis Rodman wasn't a good FIT for the bulls but his ability to rebound and defend made him a good fit.

Bo wasn't a good fit yet he was still able to win games and at least get us to championship games.

A wife that lets her man control her is good for for him yet she is unhappy as hell and dealing with abuse.
 

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Not really talking about posters like you, you make your choices know. I'm talking about posters who argue with other posters but never have solutions like who they favor as the next HC. I just don't understand why some posters won't name a name, maybe they're afraid they'll get hammered by those who disagree and can't stand the idea of people finding their responses nonsense. I will respect anyone who has the guts and sticks to their beliefs even if they don't match up with mine.

This is dumb.

Talking about what you want out of a coach could be many different names.

Its called characteristics in a coach. It doesn't have to be a certain coach.

Besides none of our opinions matter when it comes to choosing a coach. Your demand of naming one is stupid. We are still going to cheer for the Huskers to win.
 
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I said sports

A good fit can be someone who can get along with his teammates but does nothing to produce on the field.

Dennis Rodman wasn't a good FIT for the bulls but his ability to rebound and defend made him a good fit.

Bo wasn't a good fit yet he was still able to win games and at least get us to championship games.

A wife that lets her man control her is good for for him yet she is unhappy as hell and dealing with abuse.
I'm not sure what you're talking about here so I'm just going to leave this alone. May be projecting a little bit.
 

steinek11

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This is dumb.

Talking about what you want out of a coach could be many different names.

Its called characteristics in a coach. It doesn't have to be a certain coach.

Besides none of our opinions matter when it comes to choosing a coach your demand is of naming one is stupid. We are still going to chart for the Huskers to win.
In life, there are sheep and there are sheepdogs. The sheep bleat and whine incessantly. They don't know what they want, but they love to complain.

The sheepdogs, just go about their business and get s*** done.
 

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This is dumb.

Talking about what you want out of a coach could be many different names.

Its called characteristics in a coach. It doesn't have to be a certain coach.

Besides none of our opinions matter when it comes to choosing a coach your demand is of naming one is stupid. We are still going to chart for the Huskers to win.
"The best available candidate.

I'd ask one of the best college coaches of all time if he wanted the job first then move on from there".

You were so close yet you couldn't even type the name of one of the best coaches of all time. You say none of our opinions matter and that is correct yet you get on posters when their opinion doesn't jive with yours.
 

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The only guy in that list who might have turned Buffalo around is probably Rhule. Mullens couldn't even hold down the job at florida, one of the best resourced and talent-rich programs in the nation. I'd argue none of those clowns are on Leipolds level. Not one of them has won a championship.
Take each name I listed and ask yourself, is "clown" the term to use if you're looking for credibility? Fickell isn't on Leipold's level? LOL. Rhule, not on Leipold's level? Gundy? I guess you feel strongly about Leipold. He's fine, he's probably who we can get. I hope Trev is shooting higher, just my opinion.
 

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"The best available candidate.

I'd ask one of the best college coaches of all time if he wanted the job first then move on from there".

You were so close yet you couldn't even type the name of one of the best coaches of all time. You say none of our opinions matter and that is correct yet you get on posters when their opinion doesn't jive with yours.


Urban is any programs number one choice that's serious about winning..duh

You act like you are someone that has a say in who is hired and needs names.

Hell Jimmy Johnson. Their is a name for you. You happy?..lol
 

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I'll admit of C/B Tier - Leipold, Campbell, Klieman - Leipold is the best pick of the 3.
 

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Take each name I listed and ask yourself, is "clown" the term to use if you're looking for credibility? Fickell isn't on Leipold's level? LOL. Rhule, not on Leipold's level? Gundy? I guess you feel strongly about Leipold. He's fine, he's probably who we can get. I hope Trev is shooting higher, just my opinion.
I think there are some good names out there that are gettable. I'm considering several things that I think are important such as.... Plays a style of football that we could excel at and recruit to. Understands the fan base and the state. Is likely to want to be here and not treat this like a stepping stone job. Has been a head coach for a long time with a good record of building a strong culture and winning habits. Not a big ego guy that gets his panties wadded up easily. I really believe he could get us to the top of the Big ten West. We expand from there. We've been down so long, that some 9 and 10 win seasons would be pretty nice about now.
 

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Urban is any programs number one choice that's serious about winning..duh

You act like you are someone that has a say in who is hired and needs names.

Hell Jimmy Johnson. Their is a name for you. You happy?..lol
Jimmy Johnson.

Did you forget that Barry Switzer is not coaching?

-Dude was 157-29-4.
-Did nothing but produce
-Coached at a high level
-Won championships
-Coached highly rated athletes
 

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Not sold on him.

Would rather have a coach that's seen championships and big time talent.
Who are you referring to then? Your description narrows that list to Fickell, Kiffin, O'Brien, and Meyer. Are you implying those 4 should be our top 4?

Fickell isn't coming.
Meyer isn't coming.
Why would Kiffin leave Ole Miss where it's far easier to recruit?
That leaves O'Brien, O'Brien is our best choice?

Leipold would be such a better fit for what we need right now. Especially if he found a way to keep MJ on the staff. We need a program builder. We need someone who has taken dumpster fires and figured out a way to win with them. He's done that at Buffalo and looks like he's well on his way at Kansas.