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TheWayITellEm

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The SEC has dominated college football for decades and you use Arkansas and Florida as random arguments against. Yet they would dominate much of the BIG. Nobody here loves that the SEC is so much better than every other league year in and year out. That said, most people are just not dumb enough to look at a red stop sign and call it green. But there are obvious exceptions….
No. I've used the SEC's overall body of work as arguments against them being dominant top-to-bottom.

And no. Arkansas and Florida would not dominate much of the Big Ten. Their play today was very bad.

Like these results keep showing...the SEC's 3-7 (plus a forfeit) record in the regular Bowls was no fluke.
 

TheWayITellEm

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you'd like for me to literally list all of the divisions

I am saying all of them. all.

acc coastal, acc atlantic, sec east, sec west, entire big 12, pac12 south, pac12 north

you will not find another division that boasts as many G5 + FCS losses as the B1G west in 2022
. they are all better & it is not even a discussion
I'm not going to play that game with you. If I pick one, you're going to whine & cry that I cherry-picked. I'm not going to let you weasel out of it.

Name ANY division that you think is better than the Big Ten. Name one.
 

wolve1972

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penn st is 2 games over .500 since 2019

sparty had 1 "good" season. same w mich

ohiost barely beat a team that lost at home to marshall

the B1G sucks regardless of division
And yet your Nebraska has been getting DESTROYED for years in a conference that sucks. Hmmmmm. GO BIG RED !!!!! 3-9, 3-9, 3-9 .......to be even worse in 2022. In summary: the big Red is DEAD
 

king_kong_

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And yet your Nebraska has been getting DESTROYED for years in a conference that sucks. Hmmmmm. GO BIG RED !!!!! 3-9, 3-9, 3-9 .......to be even worse in 2022. In summary: the big Red is DEAD
Well, yea

thanks for the keen insight, brainiac
 

king_kong_

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I'm not going to play that game with you. If I pick one, you're going to whine & cry that I cherry-picked. I'm not going to let you weasel out of it.

Name ANY division that you think is better than the Big Ten. Name one.
I just gave you the opportunity to continue your charade by allowing you to pick literally any division in P5 to somehow show - objectively - it’s not better than the B1G west

go for it. I say they’re all better. You demand an answer, I gave you one, weasel
 

jteten

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Those championships that Clemson won could be attributed to ACC greatness.
Clemson titles vs Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Florida.. Not sure why I engage with simpleton thinking. Google is your friend. I think the SEC has won 11 of the last 15 or 16 titles. SEC > everyone else. And water is wet.
 

TheWayITellEm

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Clemson titles vs Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Florida.. Not sure why I engage with simpleton thinking. Google is your friend. I think the SEC has won 11 of the last 15 or 16 titles. SEC > everyone else. And water is wet.
Having an undefeated team every year isn't the criteria for making a conference great top-to-bottom.

Focus. We're talking about top-to-bottom. And no, the SEC isn't special or dominant top-to-bottom.
 

VictoryRed

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All I know is I'm glad we don't have to play anyone from the SEC this year.
 

moralvictories

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Clemson titles vs Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Florida.. Not sure why I engage with simpleton thinking. Google is your friend. I think the SEC has won 11 of the last 15 or 16 titles. SEC > everyone else. And water is wet.
Auburn and Florida have been irrelevant during the football playoff era. Alabama, Georgia, and LSU are the only teams from the SEC that made the playoffs.
 

schuele

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Having an undefeated team every year isn't the criteria for making a conference great top-to-bottom.

Focus. We're talking about top-to-bottom. And no, the SEC isn't special or dominant top-to-bottom.
For the record, I find fans of bad SEC teams who puff out their chests and chant, "SEC, SEC!" almost as pathetic as Big Ten bootlickers who haunt other teams' message boards 24/7/365.

Almost.
 

king_kong_

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now that the B1G's non-con season is over, here are the facts:

the big ten went 4-6 against its peer P5 conferences

of those 10 games, only 1 was against a ranked opponent (NU vs OU)

we know for sure the top of the B1G is a long way from competitive with the top of the other conferences

this record does not include mich or osu, neither of which played a P5 non-con game this year, so it's the middle and bottom of the B1G against the middle and bottom of the other P5 - a pretty good sample

4-6 is the 4th best winning percentage in P5, ahead of only the pac 12, which won 2 P5 non-con games. I will let you guess which conference both wins came against

none of the facts listed above will slow the propaganda roll of the B1G *** suckers, but it's important to note

here's the source
 

jteten

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Auburn and Florida have been irrelevant during the football playoff era. Alabama, Georgia, and LSU are the only teams from the SEC that made the playoffs.
Lol. Is that supposed to be an argument against the SEC? 9 out of 16 teams in the playoff era championship game. 5 out of 8 champions. The earth is also round.
 

TheWayITellEm

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now that the B1G's non-con season is over, here are the facts:

the big ten went 4-6 against its peer P5 conferences

of those 10 games, only 1 was against a ranked opponent (NU vs OU)

we know for sure the top of the B1G is a long way from competitive with the top of the other conferences

this record does not include mich or osu, neither of which played a P5 non-con game this year, so it's the middle and bottom of the B1G against the middle and bottom of the other P5 - a pretty good sample

4-6 is the 4th best winning percentage in P5, ahead of only the pac 12, which won 2 P5 non-con games. I will let you guess which conference both wins came against

none of the facts listed above will slow the propaganda roll of the B1G *** suckers, but it's important to note

here's the source
So I ask you for the 100th time...name any division in all of college football that you think is better than the Big Ten. And I will take an in-depth look at it.

What are you hiding??
 

king_kong_

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@TheWayITellEm is a coward, in addition to being a dunce

I expect no response for the 100th time

he has ruined a perfectly good thread about the best college football league our great nation has to offer

typical B1G fan in every way
 

moralvictories

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Lol. Is that supposed to be an argument against the SEC? 9 out of 16 teams in the playoff era championship game. 5 out of 8 champions. The earth is also round.
Georgia, Alabama, and LSU are the only SEC teams that made the playoffs.
 

TheWayITellEm

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Other than Georgia...the SEC East has only 1 other team that was projected to be good in the preseason polls. Kentucky at #20. And nothing significant has happened to change that opinion.

Florida did beat Utah at home by 3...but they needed a 4th-quarter comeback and a fumble on the 2nd-to-last play of the game to beat South Florida (by 3, at home).

This isn't better top-to-bottom than the Big Ten.
 
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TheWayITellEm

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Other than Alabama (who came extremely close to losing at Texas)...what is there??

Texas A&M lost at home to Appalachian State.

Arkansas jumped from #19 preseason to #10 by beating Cincinnati at home by 7 (2 missed FG's, including a 25-yarder, helped them). But last game, they were behind by 10 in the 4th quarter to Missouri State.

Ole Miss has moved from #21 preseason to #16 by beating Troy, Central Arkansas, & Georgia Tech.

This isn't better top-to-bottom than the Big Ten.
 
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Mr.Scary13

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Other than Georgia...the SEC East has only 1 other team that was projected to be good in the preseason polls. Kentucky at #20. And nothing significant has happened to change that opinion.

Florida did beat Utah at home by 3...but they needed a 4th-quarter comeback and a fumble on the 2nd-to-last play of the game to beat South Florida (by 3, at home).

This isn't better top-to-bottom than the Big Ten.

The SEC has 5 in the top 11, 6 in the top 16, and 8 in the top 25. You're an imbecile.......
 

king_kong_

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Other than Georgia...the SEC East has only 1 other team that was projected to be good in the preseason polls. Kentucky at #20. And nothing significant has happened to change that opinion.

Florida did beat Utah at home by 3...but they needed a 4th-quarter comeback and a fumble on the 2nd-to-last play of the game to beat South Florida (by 3, at home).

This isn't better top-to-bottom than the Big Ten.
This is so pathetically underwhelming, even by your standards

preseason projections? really?

Florida beat a top 7 team as a touchdown underdog. I would bet no B1G team has done that outside of the conference in at least a decade.
 

king_kong_

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Kong and TellEm are hilarious. Free entertainment! Thanks guys, keep it up.
Totally pointless

there is enough objective proof of the B1G’s place in college football for Helen Keller to understand

some people just fall for propaganda hook, line and sinker. There’s little you can do for them except hope they do not procreate (zero worries there for our mentally challenged friend @TheWayITellEm)
 

SLOHusker

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IMHO Nebraska would be welcomed into the SEC if they wanted to join
I think it would be a great move if it could be pulled off. It would probably be a lot easier if NU can get a couple winning years under its belt and a marquee coach. For the record, Missouri and A&M have both done at least as good or better in the SEC than Nebraska has in the Big 10 and when they all left the Big 12 NU was doing better than both.