If he even shows slight improvement, he should be given the job. He's already on staff for current recruits and is a fantastic recruiter, well respected in the profession, more experience then Frost. I'm sure he has a lot of ties for defensive coordinator, including his brothers ties, what else are we looking for? I don't care if he's played here or not he just might be the right guy!!
Mickey Joseph permanently..
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Mickey seems like an amazing person and the kind of guy kids will want to play for. I also don't think being a coordinator is needed to be a HC, hiring good coaches, setting expectations, etc are the keys, not being an X's and O's expert on one sie of the ball. So I do find myself rooting for Mickey. That being said, he will have to win to get the job and winning games with this defense will be a tough task.
Very true. I think he needs to win at least 5 games, which would mean a winning record for him and a bowl game. That will not be easy with our defensive personnel.
I completely agree with you re: being a coordinator
we are seeing more and more coordinators turned head coaches who are clueless about the stuff coordinators don't have to handle when they're coordinators (time management topping this list)
organizational and motivational skills with a healthy dose of EQ >>>>>>>> X's & O's as a head coach
I get the sense our defense is not nearly as bad as they’ve looked. They really can’t be as bad as they’ve looked with the players we have. It doesn’t make sense in any world. Most of the time we’ve run man coverage they’ve done well. Would love to see much different play calling on that side of the ball on Saturday.
The hope for a quick improvement under Joseph hinges on this analysis being true. Time will tell. Is our problem on defense talent or coaching or both? If it is coaching then there is hope. If I were Jospeh I would take a hard look at Ruud as linebackers coach. One of our biggest issues has been very poor play from the linebackers. I have seen some analysis from folks like Carriker who have observed that often our linebackers are not playing the right gaps. I would also say, based on my own armchair analysis (so take it for what that is worth, ha) that our linebackers are piss poor blitzers. Is that scheme or talent? We could also use an upgrade in QB pressure from the much hyped Nelson and Mathis.
The scary thing is this. If it is coaching ... well... we still have the same coaches.
If he has a crazy turnaround and we win 7-8 then I can see the argument. But we need some type of stabilization after this and Mickey would be an extremely risky hire.
I really like him as a position coach and would love to see him retained as an OC. But would rather have someone proven, even if the perceived ceiling isn’t as high. I do understand the appeal but guys like Campbell, B.o.B, either of the Kansas coaches, Schiano, many more would be a better hire right now.
Things can change if Mickey goes on a huge run obviously. I just don’t see us having the DT’s to compete this year. Teams being able to run up the gut consistently completely breaks a defense. Otherwise I could convince myself of that type of turnaround.
I really like him as a position coach and would love to see him retained as an OC. But would rather have someone proven, even if the perceived ceiling isn’t as high. I do understand the appeal but guys like Campbell, B.o.B, either of the Kansas coaches, Schiano, many more would be a better hire right now.
Things can change if Mickey goes on a huge run obviously. I just don’t see us having the DT’s to compete this year. Teams being able to run up the gut consistently completely breaks a defense. Otherwise I could convince myself of that type of turnaround.
DL could look worse due to LBs not playing correct gaps. We have Ty, Mathis and Nelson. That really should be adequate for the West. Wynn was a Nick Saban 4 star recruit.
We are forced to blame the coaching as more and more time goes on where we constantly out-recruit (by a lot) the teams we keep losing to…over…and over…and over. No team has done less with more.
Coach MJ is in a tough spot. You can tell he would want the job. Unfortunately he has a short season left with some very leaky position groups to audition for the job. And he had zero influence on these position groups. It would take a miracle worker to go on the run he would need to take the job.
Come on Coach. Pull off that miracle.
Come on Coach. Pull off that miracle.
Reimers, Henrich, and even Kolavaric are not piss poor blitzers, they are lousy and they compliment that by being lousy tacklers.
They specialize in running up the back(s) of our own DLinemen.
No instincts. If the blitz calls for them to attack the DT gap, they go there it doesn't matter if the hole is clogged. Brutal.
schedule gets pretty easy after this week
I don't think it'd be a miracle to beat a bunch of 5-7 win b1g teams
Let's not rush into picking a coach. We've struck out too many times already. Let's do the proper homework and then some.
I would love nothing better than to see HC Joseph succeed so well this year that he's named permanently.
It would certainly be a lot less disruptive than an entirely new HC and staff.
It would certainly be a lot less disruptive than an entirely new HC and staff.
Not that I advocate one way or another for Mickey, I’ll wait and see. I believe, however, that the job is his if he produces. That is the reality of Lincoln. By production, I mean a decent bowl game, a signature win, winning record, and visible differences in technique, like blocking and tackling.
Unless there is a BIG name that Trev has, that is what I think the reality will be.
Unless there is a BIG name that Trev has, that is what I think the reality will be.
We need to keep Mickey on the future staff as WR coach, a good coach who can recruit. But a new HC and rest of staff. Certainly shitcan that loser Chin and the rest of the D coaches
In which case your backers and the ability of your DBs to cover in man become very important. Chin needs to get more aggressive
We would get a TON of love from national media IF somehow Mickey wins the job. The crappy defense I’m afraid really stacks things against him
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I'd love to see him retained as the head guy but man, it's gonna take A LOT of work. If it happens he sure as hell will have earned it! What a story that would be.
Man if there was ever a wish to come true for Husker fans it would be a win on Saturday. I know it’s a pipe dream but that would be so great for the program. It would get buzz about Mickey and some mo going into the bye week. boy that would turn a lot of people on the Joesph bus quickly
Vegas is begging everyone to take OU now +10. My antennas are up for at least Huskers to cover.
Don't you think what Mickey inherited would deserve to be put in context?
NU 1-2 against arguably not overall very good teams.
NU scoring 33 ppg a game and allowing 24 ppg.
NU offense at 451 yards per game but allowing 417 yards per game.
Coming off of 4+ straight losing seasons.
NU rushing for 177 ypg, but allowing 199.5 ypg.
Even NU TOP of 24.54 minutes per game, and opponents control TOP 35.06.
IF those are the current standards after 3 games, what is Mickey able to do/or not do in the next 9 games that affect change from a losing culture using the same squad of athletes as were available the first 3 games?
In addition to taking into account teams like OU, MN, MICH, WISCY and possibly IA are likely superior to any of the first 3 opponents.
The good thing is NU in scoring has moved from 28 to 38 to 42 points per game. Offense is trending in the right direction, but giving up 45 points and 652 yards to Ga Southern is definitely trending downward.
Is Mickey able to force change in the scheme, personnel changes, level of defensive aggressiveness in order to stem or slow down opponents offenses?
It's a tall order and we get to see firsthand what if anything has changed against by far the best opponent thus far.
I’ve seen more surprising things happen. Sometimes changing the motivation of players and instilling some self-belief can go a long ways in producing better performances. So maybe instead of losing a pile of close games, we pull a few out and maybe surprise a bigger team
Winning 5 more games given what we’ve seen in the first 3 games would be akin to Lazarus walking in to Memorial Stadium to watch the OU game
A trained monkey could likely do the same thing. That's why I said, it's not saying much.
I have a feeling Mickey Joseph will be here after the next HC is named even if he's not named HC. The only way MJ wins the HC job outright is if he pulls this team out of it's nose dive and gets the team to perform above it's limits and wins 6 or 7 games, tough to do. I expect this team to run on per adrenaline and emotion in the next game, the trick is to get these guys to do that the next 9 games.
Freaking North Dakota took us in to the 4th quarter. Not NDSU. North Dakota. Our defense has been the worst I’ve ever seen at NU. IF we had retained Frost there was a real possibility that we wouldn’t have won another game. Retaining Chin thus far doesn’t give me much optimism