Why does Trev Alberts get so much hate?

moralvictories

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In hindsight, it's easy to hate on Alberts for retaining Scott Frost. However if you look back to last season, it looked like we were about to turn a corner since all the losses were close.
 

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In hindsight, it's easy to hate on Alberts for retaining Scott Frost. However if you look back to last season, it looked like we were about to turn a corner since all the losses were close.
A lot of Husker fans were extremely skeptical of us turning the corner. Frost has had a terrible 4 years prior to this year. Those that were expecting great things this year were fooling themselves.

it’s clear more than ever that Scott is at best a coordinator. He can’t put a staff together. So yeah, Trev screwed up. Screwed up badly. It’s on him, not Scott at this point. A blind man could see how poorly of a HC frost his. What kind of leader can’t? One that’s worried about $7.5MM? May very well lose $7.5MM elsewhere by keeping Scott
 
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Simple. The Frosturbators want to point fingers at everyone else
 

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In hindsight, it's easy to hate on Alberts for retaining Scott Frost. However if you look back to last season, it looked like we were about to turn a corner since all the losses were close.
The people that ***** about Trev are either UNO Wrestling fans or are simple-minded. He restructured Scotty’s buyout while giving him enough rope to hang himself.

Oct 1, he’ll let Frost know that he gave him a chance and it didn’t work out. Then he can add, don’t let the door hit you in the ***!
 
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In hindsight, it's easy to hate on Alberts for retaining Scott Frost. However if you look back to last season, it looked like we were about to turn a corner since all the losses were close.
Answer: The state of football and basketball. The buck stops with the AD for ensuring the health of all our sports. Not a good record so far but we'll see how this season plays out.
 

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Many hate any former Husker players to come back and lead in any capacity. I have no problems with Trev or not firing Frost ....yet.
 

moralvictories

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A lot of Husker fans were extremely skeptical of us turning the corner. Frost has had a terrible 4 years prior to this year. Those that were expecting great things this year were fooling themselves.

it’s clear more than ever that Scott is at best a coordinator. He can’t put a staff together. So yeah, Trev screwed up. Screwed up badly. It’s on him, not Scott at this point. A blind man could see how poorly of a HC frost his. What kind of leader can’t? One that’s worried about $7.5MM? May very well lose $7.5MM elsewhere by keeping Scott
The close losses last year led many to believe that Frost was on the verge of turning a corner. It's not looking like that came to pass but the season isn't over yet. We will see as the season progresses.
 

Redmich

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The people that ***** about Trev are either UNO Wrestling fans or are simple-minded. He restructured Scotty’s buyout while giving him enough rope to hang himself.

Oct 1, he’ll let Frost know that he gave him a chance and it didn’t work out. Then he can add, don’t let the door hit you in the ***!
We were 1-9 against power 5 opponents last year - Trev loosened and removed the noose and tenderly escorted him off the gallows
 

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I choose to believe Tim that it wasn’t Trev’s call. I blame Moos mostly, and I’m fine with Trev having a chance to make a big hire.
 

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We were 1-9 against power 5 opponents last year - Trev loosened and removed the noose and tenderly escorted him off the gallows
You’re out of your mind if you believe he removed the noose. It’s still around his neck and will tighten up when we play OU.
 

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Moos was essentially terminated on 30 June 2021 for being frequently absent and intoxicated. Alberts was hired 14 July. The football season started six weeks later. I don't know for a fact, but suspect influential people like Osborne were in Frost's corner and Trev had to contend with them. I also think asking a new AD to find his guy and fire the existing coach after being on the job 4.5 months is a tall order. I would rather have another bad year and get a good coach than rush things and get Mike Riley. So I can't understand the mindset that he is gutless or stupid or ineffective or whatever for not firing Frost after the Iowa game. My opinion is he is taking the time to do things right.
 

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The people that ***** about Trev are either UNO Wrestling fans or are simple-minded. He restructured Scotty’s buyout while giving him enough rope to hang himself.

Oct 1, he’ll let Frost know that he gave him a chance and it didn’t work out. Then he can add, don’t let the door hit you in the ***!
Oh man, th4 Mav wrestling and football fans...you know...those super fans that never attended a Mav wrestling meet or Mav football game.
 

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I personally don't think Alberts has that much negativity directed towards him at this point, although I don't have access to his in-box.

If this year's team continues to under perform, like the previous 4 years, and it's not obvious Alberts is going to act before the season's end in removing Frost, I could see the anger turning towards the AD in Steve Pedersonesque levels.
 
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Simple, when your job is at the center of the target you get shot at.

No matter who sits in the chair, they will be hated by some, and sometimes, by more than some.
 

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We were 1-9 against power 5 opponents last year - Trev loosened and removed the noose and tenderly escorted him off the gallows
He did no such thing, Trev has bosses like anyone else. With the 15 million buyout Trev or any other AD doesn’t have the power buy himself to make a move.
 
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A lot of Husker fans were extremely skeptical of us turning the corner. Frost has had a terrible 4 years prior to this year. Those that were expecting great things this year were fooling themselves.

it’s clear more than ever that Scott is at best a coordinator. He can’t put a staff together. So yeah, Trev screwed up. Screwed up badly. It’s on him, not Scott at this point. A blind man could see how poorly of a HC frost his. What kind of leader can’t? One that’s worried about $7.5MM? May very well lose $7.5MM elsewhere by keeping Scott
I call somebody that wants to save the University $7.5 million as someone who is responsible - especially in today’s economic climate.

It also says a couple of other things:
Scott, here is a chance to prove that you can turn this around.

If Frost can’t turn it around, coaching prospects can see we provide reasonable accommodations for a coach to be successful here. Bottom line is you have to win. That is no different than any other P5 school.
 

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I call somebody that wants to save the University $7.5 million as someone who is responsible - especially in today’s economic climate.

It also says a couple of other things:
Scott, here is a chance to prove that you can turn this around.

If Frost can’t turn it around, coaching prospects can see we provide reasonable accommodations for a coach to be successful here. Bottom line is you have to win. That is no different than any other P5 school.
This nails it.
 

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Didn't go to Hell on his watch, but considering the state of NU men's athletics I don't really think Alberts takes a lot of heat.
 

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Many hate any former Husker players to come back and lead in any capacity. I have no problems with Trev or not firing Frost ....yet.
The allure of former Osborne players is knowing that these guys played under one of the greatest ever and the “hope” that they understand the value of a great S&C program, the value of dominating lines on both sides, the value of discipline and attention to detail in every aspect of the game.
 

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Bottom line is you have to win. That is no different than any other P5 school.
Show me another school in the last 2 decades that brought back a coach with Frost’s record for a 5th year (3-9 and markedly worse in year 4 than in years 1 through 3)

we brought back a coach who only won 1 game against power 5 opponents in year number 4 - so the bottom line is anything but winning
 

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Show me another school in the last 2 decades that brought back a coach with Frost’s record for a 5th year (3-9 and markedly worse in year 4 than in years 1 through 3)

we brought back a coach who only won 1 game against power 5 opponents in year number 4 - so the bottom line is anything but winning
For the sake of $$$$..
 

Redmich

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For the sake of $$$$..
I get that

the AD and his superiors made a business decision to bring back a coach that literally almost no other program - certainly not one that claims to be serious about winning - would retain

why in the world if I am a recruit would I consider Nebraska when the people making football decisions are going to remain when Frost is gone.

they sacrificed a year and the current players on the roster in order to decrease the buyout … how can you look a recruit and family in the eyes and claim the university is committed to winning
 

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I get that

the AD and his superiors made a business decision to bring back a coach that literally almost no other program - certainly not one that claims to be serious about winning - would retain

why in the world if I am a recruit would I consider Nebraska when the people making football decisions are going to remain when Frost is gone.

they sacrificed a year and the current players on the roster in order to decrease the buyout … how can you look a recruit and family in the eyes and claim the university is committed to winning
If you don't get it, you don't get it.
 

Redmich

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If you don't get it, you don't get it.
Believe me I get it … it would have been too expensive to halt the free fall and worry about winning and the current players in the program are just going to have to suck it up and endure yet another year of poor coaching and leadership
 
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I like alberts. people just hate on him because they have no life.
folks forget that alberts was one of the homies who got the dline in shape for the 90's
 
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Lincoln100

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Believe me I get it … it would have been too expensive to halt the free fall and worry about winning and the current players in the program are just going to have to suck it up and endure yet another year of poor coaching and leadership
Sounds like maybe you dont get it. New coaches were brought in, and what if there wasnt a good candidate for head coach? Rush the process so that we can hurry up and put ourselves in the same predicament 3 to 4 years from now, or dont rush it and do our best to be our best 3 to 4 years from now.
 

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Sounds like maybe you dont get it. New coaches were brought in, and what if there wasnt a good candidate for head coach? Rush the process so that we can hurry up and put ourselves in the same predicament 3 to 4 years from now, or dont rush it and do our best to be our best 2 - 5 years from now.
Rush the process? We had 1 power 5 win midway through October on the heels of the worst previous 3 years in modern program history. We could have had a head start on almost every other program looking for a coach had we chosen to take advantage.
 

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Rush the process? We had 1 power 5 win midway through October on the heels of the worst previous 3 years in modern program history. We could have had a head start on almost every other program looking for a coach had we chosen to take advantage.
You seem to think finding a new head coach is as simple as ordering fast food at a Hardees drive-thru.
 

Redmich

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You seem to think finding a new head coach is as simple as ordering fast food at a Hardees drive-thru.
are you saying the leadership tried to get a new football coach last year and failed so they were left with retaining Frost? - - comforting

Again - if the current football leadership is incapable of finding a suitable replacement after frosts 4th year 1 power 5 win season - such that they have to bring him back for year 5 - then why as a prospective recruit should I be interested
 
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moralvictories

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Again - if the current football leadership is incapable of finding a suitable replacement after frosts 4th year 1 power 5 win season - such that they have to bring him back for year 5 - then why as a prospective recruit should I be interested
If we botch the process like when Bo was fired and hire another Mike Riley, we sink even further down the toilet. Take the time to hire the right guy even if it means keeping Frost until then.
 

Lincoln100

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Again - if the current football leadership is incapable of finding a suitable replacement after frosts 4th year 1 power 5 win season - such that they have to bring him back for year 5 - then why as a prospective recruit should I be interested
Again - it's a big boy decision with lots and lots of moving parts and consideration. Alberts time here will be decided on this fire / hire. If he didn't have a guy he felt good about, he shouldnt have pulled the trigger. In the meantime, work Frost over by getting him to take less and have it t-d up for bringing in someone at years end. This is simple. 95% of recruits would get it.
 
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Believe me I get it … it would have been too expensive to halt the free fall and worry about winning and the current players in the program are just going to have to suck it up and endure yet another year of poor coaching and leadership
Another thing to get is if our coach wasn’t Scott Frost/former Husker QB/QB of last national championship team he wouldn’t be here still. He has been given generous leeway (many will say too generous) but if there is another losing season, then nobody can argue he should have been given more time.

I foresee getting to 6 wins is going to be very difficult. Not sure 6-6 regular season this year saves his job.
 

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Again - if the current football leadership is incapable of finding a suitable replacement after frosts 4th year 1 power 5 win season - such that they have to bring him back for year 5 - then why as a prospective recruit should I be interested
Plenty of portal players found quit a bit of interest..
 

Redscarlet

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Again - it's a big boy decision with lots and lots of moving parts and consideration. Alberts time here will be decided on this fire / hire. If he didn't have a guy he felt good about, he shouldnt have pulled the trigger. In the meantime, work Frost over by getting him to take less and have it t-d up for bringing in someone at years end. This is simple. 95% of recruits would get it.
Bingo unlike Eichorst.. ohh wait a minute he received great advice from Alvarez..
 

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This team has “been about to turn the corner” for five years! People are frustrated with Alberts because they want him to be honest. What are the bench marks for this staff? What tangible improvements have you seen, and what do you expect. Why are practices closed to the media? Why do players not have to practice to earn a starting job? Why to answer questions? What do you think of player development? There are a list of questions that he should address without being asked and it’s appearing in multiple sports. All three major men’s sports show a lack of accountability!
 

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In hindsight, it's easy to hate on Alberts for retaining Scott Frost. However, if you look back to last season, it looked like we were about to turn a corner since all the losses were close.
He did the right thing for the reason you gave, and because there was no coach available that would have been a "home run "hire.
 

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Simple, when your job is at the center of the target you get shot at.

No matter who sits in the chair, they will be hated by some, and sometimes, by more than some.
Trev has been on the job about 14 months, and walked into a mess with losing basketball and football programs. Both with costly coach buy outs. Fans just want to blame someone.
 

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Rush the process? We had 1 power 5 win midway through October on the heels of the worst previous 3 years in modern program history. We could have had a head start on almost every other program looking for a coach had we chosen to take advantage.

I agree with Lincoln, and also see your point. What we’re currently seeing is essentially an attempt for a coach to grasp at their last chance of life, while an AD sits and figures out (hopefully) what they want to do.

Getting a Nebraska head football coach is a long term investment that much of the dumber ADs and current higher ups have been too stupid to realize. I’d like to think that if it was a seriously proven AD hired instead of Trev, they would have fired Frost and brought someone highly qualified to come in. Since that was not the case, this new AD should - presumably - be getting things lined up properly to make a change.

Don’t forget that most of the higher ups in charge are incredibly stupid and nearsighted individuals that value one thing while negating the festering rot that is Nebraska football
 

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Trev has been on the job about 14 months, and walked into a mess with losing basketball and football programs. Both with costly coach buy outs. Fans just want to blame someone.
And yet he kept both of those losing coaches. The consequences of that decision is directly on him.