Onside kick was the right call

Blindcheck

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This is one of those calls, if it works, it looks like a genius move...but the downside risk was way to high at that point in the game.

Getting the onside kick probably increases Nebraska chances of winning by 10%, but not getting it probably increased the chance of losing by 25%.

I have a belief that many coaches don't watch enough football...They watch cut ups up plays, but only experience football once a week, 12 times a year. The flow of a game is important and I think many of these head coaches make decisions that are head scratchers because they just don't see a lot of full games.
 

ChiLoop

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If you watch the replay we actually had the numbers. Unfortunately we kicked a slow roller right to the one NW player paying attention. It's easy to play Monday morning QB but I think if he kicked it a little harder with more of a bounce we very likely recover.
 

IowaHogeyeDoosh

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If you watch the replay we actually had the numbers. Unfortunately we kicked a slow roller right to the one NW player paying attention. It's easy to play Monday morning QB but I think if he kicked it a little harder with more of a bounce we very likely recover.
“We”??
 

IowaHogeyeDoosh

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Another one who assumes any fan who is even the slightest bit critical is not a real fan. LMAO.

I think we win out and win the NC this year. Better?
Most Nebraska fans are being critical and there’s a lot to be critical about. Nebraska’s ceiling may be Pelini type results. Nebraska’s struggles have nothing to do with being in the bigten. Agree??
 

zappaa

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You play to win the game and Coach Frost showed confidence in his guys to either end the game right then, or have Chins finally step up and make it happen.

Great call and everyone would be saying the same thing if it works or if Chins doesn’t blow it
Look at me….if it worked…lol
If a cow had balls it would be a Bull.
 

Anon1751898786

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If you watch the replay we actually had the numbers. Unfortunately we kicked a slow roller right to the one NW player paying attention. It's easy to play Monday morning QB but I think if he kicked it a little harder with more of a bounce we very likely recover.
Just watched the replay again and it was the right call. It was wide open and the NW kid was the only one there.

Chins blew this game by letting NW run up and down the field
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Just watched the replay again and it was the right call. It was wide open and the NW kid was the only one there.

Chins blew this game by letting NW run up and down the field
In athletics, trick plays, surprise plays, are based on making that trick play look exactly like a previous play and then the wrinkle comes in.

NU kicked off 4 times yesterday.

They used the following kickoff alignment:

5
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5

5
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5

5
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5

4
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See any difference?
 

zappaa

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Just watched the replay again and it was the right call. It was wide open and the NW kid was the only one there.

Chins blew this game by letting NW run up and down the field
One of the dumbest calls in Nebraska football history!
 

zappaa

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If you watch the replay we actually had the numbers. Unfortunately we kicked a slow roller right to the one NW player paying attention. It's easy to play Monday morning QB but I think if he kicked it a little harder with more of a bounce we very likely recover.
The ball is oblong dude.
It doesn’t do what you want it to, never has never will
 

ChiLoop

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The ball is oblong dude.
It doesn’t do what you want it to, never has never will
Despite the oblong shape (I was aware, dude), most good kickers can do an onside kick where the ball does one or two quick hops and then a big bounce. Most kickers execute this style of onside kick, and that may well have worked given the alignment of the NW players.
 

Yantzeee

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Frosts onside call was the equivalent of taking your families cash flows for the expenses for the next year and taking that cash and throwing it on red at the roulette table. Hell yeah it would be nice to hit that and double up but you don’t risk it. The risk is so much greater than the reward. Scott’s just dumb.

and we can’t afford dumb moves in the B1G with a conference full of coaches who know they can’t afford a dumb move. Coaches who are smart. No better way of saying it but we have the dumbest coach in the conference.
 

jteten

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Frosts onside call was the equivalent of taking your families cash flows for the expenses for the next year and taking that cash and throwing it on red at the roulette table. Hell yeah it would be nice to hit that and double up but you don’t risk it. The risk is so much greater than the reward. Scott’s just dumb.

and we can’t afford dumb moves in the B1G with a conference full of coaches who know they can’t afford a dumb move. Coaches who are smart. No better way of saying it but we have the dumbest coach in the conference.
Sadly, there are better odds on red or black than recovering an onside kick. Frosts thought processes are fascinatingly horrible.
 

zappaa

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Despite the oblong shape (I was aware, dude), most good kickers can do an onside kick where the ball does one or two quick hops and then a big bounce. Most kickers execute this style of onside kick, and that may well have worked given the alignment of the NW players.
No they can’t
 
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I'd say the onside kick definitely wasn't the right call for that point in the game but it also wasn't the only factor by any means which lost the game. I was most surprised/shocked by the poor defense. I expected some problems with the offense and I'm not at all convinced the OL can run block.
 

schuele

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Just watched the replay again and it was the right call. It was wide open and the NW kid was the only one there.

Chins blew this game by letting NW run up and down the field
So is this the year we’re all supposed to go back to blaming Chinander for the fact that Frost is an abject failure who invents ways to lose games? Good to know.
 

BadgerPete

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Bleekrode should have called a time out, walked over to Scott Frost and said “Coach, I know you were wearing glasses this week and now you don’t have them on. The scoreboard shows we are UP by 11 not DOWN by 11. If you want to try an onside kick, you need to find someone else to do it.“
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Bleekrode should have called a time out, walked over to Scott Frost and said “Coach, I know you were wearing glasses this week and now you don’t have them on. The scoreboard shows we are UP by 11 not DOWN by 11. If you want to try an onside kick, you need to find someone else to do it.“
Wrong kicker Pete.
 

konaki

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Since the revised kickoff rules were implemented in 2018, onside kicks have been successful only 10.5 percent of the time. You don't have to be a math major to figure out what will happen a majority of time.
 

Anon1751898786

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I'd say the onside kick definitely wasn't the right call for that point in the game but it also wasn't the only factor by any means which lost the game. I was most surprised/shocked by the poor defense. I expected some problems with the offense and I'm not at all convinced the OL can run block.
This guy gets it. Chins is the problem, not Frost calling the onside kick.
 

Anon1751898786

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So is this the year we’re all supposed to go back to blaming Chinander for the fact that Frost is an abject failure who invents ways to lose games? Good to know.
Frost is trying to cover for a DC that lets NW, I repeat NW not Ohio State, go for over 500 yards. He's trying to create points any way he can because Chins is way out of his league.
 

schuele

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Frost is trying to cover for a DC that lets NW, I repeat NW not Ohio State, go for over 500 yards. He's trying to create points any way he can because Chins is way out of his league.
So just so I “get it” - Chinander is out of his league but Frost is totally up to the task?

How much longer does the golden boy escape any blame for this program being a dumpster fire?
 

huskat

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In explaining the call, Frost said that at that point in the game he thought he had the better team and wanted to end the game for good. The "better team" doesn't call onside kicks. They kick it away and let the game play out. Teams trying for an upset call onside kicks because they don't feel they can win it otherwise.
 

Redscarlet

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In explaining the call, Frost said that at that point in the game he thought he had the better team and wanted to end the game for good. The "better team" doesn't call onside kicks. They kick it away and let the game play out. Teams trying for an upset call onside kicks because they don't feel they can win it otherwise.
Nailed it!
 

Bradjens

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Odds are really bad to recover a onside kick .
to high of risk with very little up side.
 

Badger1Bob

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Badger guy here. I watched the game with a slight N rooting interest.
N had all the Mo and an 11pt lead. I just shook my head and said Why several times. It’s such a low percentage of successful outcomes. Why? He overreached like a coach on the hot seat. Dumb because it’s gotta be no better than 5 % chance recovery. Why? It’s a desperation call.
 

Jet Peddler

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Scared money don’t make money
Scared money? Frost had your team up by 11 points, performing well with momentum on their side. If his money was “scared” at that point…

Frost bet the rent money when he already had enough to make rent.

Reality? Frost took a totally unnecessary gamble, fvcked himself, fvcked the team, and fvcked everyone pulling for NU.

In 4 1/2 years, Frost has yet to give me one reason to believe he can coach.
 
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BK12

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I thought it was ridiculous at the time - but then after the game it was evident we were never going to stop them on offense so I was ok with it. Think about it - they had over 500 yards and they largely stopped themselves with ultra conservative play calls on a couple third downs. Throw in the Missed FG and fumble after a big gain. They could have had 600 yards easy. We could have On side kicked after every score and It would have been better then watching our pathetic defense.
 

Anon1751898786

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I thought it was ridiculous at the time - but then after the game it was evident we were never going to stop them on offense so I was ok with it. Think about it - they had over 500 yards and they largely stopped themselves with ultra conservative play calls on a couple third downs. Throw in the Missed FG and fumble after a big gain. They could have had 600 yards easy. We could have On side kicked after every score and It would have been better then watching our pathetic defense.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

schuele

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Sorry but the notion that Frost knew the defense couldn't stop Northwestern and that's why he was forced to make a desperation move is absolute nonsense. Good Lord, is Frost never, ever going to be held accountable for anything?

Do you suppose it's possible that the defense was awful and it was STILL an idiotic call by a head coach who's famous for outsmarting himself?
 

Anon1751898786

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Good Lord, is Frost never, ever going to be held accountable for anything?

Do you suppose it's possible that the defense was awful and it was STILL an idiotic call by a head coach who's famous for outsmarting himself?
He should be held accountable for not firing his DC.
 
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