As a man who's been around the block more than once (70 yrs old) it would take more than a chat to hurt my feelings. By the way here's Webster's:Like we're hurting his feelings.Buncha meanies!
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Nope. Just discussion. And not off limits. The OP @RedCap said he was worried about the Oline and Raiola's recruiting. How is that unfair?
Yes, there are more and more stories from real sources that Frost cannot hold his liquor.
beginning to realize frost is to juvenile to be head coach at a p 5 school
I'll let you have the last word because like most topics there are no right or wrong opinions, they are just different.
The last guy we had ‘coaching’ the Offensive Line had no business being in the college ranks.
I will save my judgement on Raiola for later but my gut tells me he will be an infinite improvement as a coach over what we had. When we get more wins, recruiting will become an easier sell.
Goal this year: winning record and bowl game.
First and foremost, he wants to go to the NFL and find an offense with a track record of putting QBs in the league. Plus it was play for Ryan Day or Scott Frost. If he was choosing a school based on relationship with the offensive line coach, then I bet we would have got him.
Technically the last guy we had coaching offensive line was Frank Verducci- on an interim basis but it seemed like he did a good job. And he did coach OL with Notre Dame, Iowa, Dallas Cowboys and the Buffalo Bills and an OC at UConn. I think he was very qualified, but I know you were referring to Austin.
We never had a chance to land Arch Manning.
We did have a chance to land Dylan. When a kid visits campus 3 times, that means he’s showing some interest. You can say “well he did it please his pop, or his uncle is a coach”. Well I’d buy that if he visited 1 time, but he visited 3 times and two of those were when his uncle had zero affiliation with the program.
Yes we had a chance to land Dylan. Any dam coach will tell you that if you get a kid on campus you have a shot at the kid. That’s ridiculous to think other wise. Want to play “Mr Cool” and pretend to make it ok in your mind; fine go ahead. But you lying to yourself
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Just another excuse. No wonder why we can’t win these recruiting battles.
Yes tOSU has put in a handful of QBs in the league. None of them have been any good. Justin Fields is their only hope right now and he looked god awful last year. tOSU actually has a history of taking talented kids and not developing them into top NFL QBs.
also who exactly has a history of producing NFL QBs? OU and Bama. Who else really. For the most part, the best NFL QBs right were really the only QBs from their schools to make it in the league.
I think the whole premise of comparing his recruiting to Mickey’s and labeling him a failure because she hasn’t landed the high profile recruits MJ has is unfair.
The Dad and Uncle's influence is the only thing that got him on campus. There's no indication that he had any interest beyond that. One of the Rivals or 247 analysts couldn't even get Dylan to return their calls.
He can take his condescending crap someplace else. He wants to preface I would say?
I don't lie to myself, and I'm not gonna let that asshat infer otherwise.
Some of you guys are pretty dense when it comes to recruiting And analyzing coaches. Hello, anyone home? If Raiola strikes out on four of the five official out-of-state offensive linemen he brought in, that was the logical conclusion. Four very highly linemen with real benchmarks in schools sought. Which Nebraska is failing at consistently. Nebraska needs to win, contend for championships at least. Nebraska needs to start having more players from the offensive line drafted to the NFL plus all other positions.
When you have five consecutive losing seasons and lack of any substantial hardware for the trophy case for going on two decades, you are scratching for relevance on top recruits. They have better options with demonstrable results! I am not saying we lose both Hughley and Heard and get the lighter recruited Sia. Looks that way anyway. If we get one or two to sign, just not verbal to Nebraska it would be kind of a recruiting miracle for Raiola and Nebraska.
Donovan has a blank resume for coaching in college at the major college level. So no students from his coaching drafted to NFL teams. I like him, the hire, but he is starting at ground zero in major college recruiting high school players. The NFL experience is nice and important. Mickey, the last five years, has put at least two LSU wide receivers as high draft picks into the NFL. Plus others. Documented stuff with a national championship year too.
We might get four Louisiana high school players from the 29 official visitors so far(by rivals). The Mickey Joseph factor. All because of the connection in Louisiana and his affection down in his home state for him. That was the first real personal money making job MJ enjoyed so far in coaching. This is his second, his alma mater. Win big this season helps secure verbal commitments to sign and expand recruiting higher recruited players into the future.
Raiola and Joseph brought in several highly recruited players at their position of coaching. Our overall visits is high in quality and the commitments so far to the 13, or 15, 16 threshold is very impressive. To a program that has sucked for awhile With all the sell-outs, very good present facilities to great in one year’s time. The truth hurts, but we are in a critical stage in Nebraska football history.
If Scott Frost fails that just means another failure(5 consecutive). Plus the 50-50 at best chance for a sixth consecutive head coach to fail to bring Nebraska to regional or national relevance. I drink the red koolaid at times but the doomsayers are spiking their koolaid with addictive wrong antidotes for national relevance.
USC(especially) and UCLA hit the jackpot for furthering football relevance and ease the financial drain to athletic departments going forward after a few years of debt relief. In between. The main men sports(three) have increased competition since our arrival in the Big Ten which we sank lower in results.
Plus the really good Conference media rights just got pushed up to great compensation. Will Nebraska ever be nationally relevant in football again? Will men’s basketball ever be just a occasional invitee to the NCAA Tournament? Plus win a game or so in a given decade? Baseball has more competition from two very warm schools joining a cold weather conference for baseball and softball. Somehow, i think baseball and the new rules could be in the best position of the three major men’s sports.
But i really hope Scott Frost turns the corner in 2022 with definite progress and follows up with a better or successful 2023 season. The people who say screw you for thinking he has a successful year this fall, I say right back at you. I have no need to text back football messages with fellow posters who really hope for him to fail In football.
When you have five consecutive losing seasons and lack of any substantial hardware for the trophy case for going on two decades, you are scratching for relevance on top recruits. They have better options with demonstrable results! I am not saying we lose both Hughley and Heard and get the lighter recruited Sia. Looks that way anyway. If we get one or two to sign, just not verbal to Nebraska it would be kind of a recruiting miracle for Raiola and Nebraska.
Donovan has a blank resume for coaching in college at the major college level. So no students from his coaching drafted to NFL teams. I like him, the hire, but he is starting at ground zero in major college recruiting high school players. The NFL experience is nice and important. Mickey, the last five years, has put at least two LSU wide receivers as high draft picks into the NFL. Plus others. Documented stuff with a national championship year too.
We might get four Louisiana high school players from the 29 official visitors so far(by rivals). The Mickey Joseph factor. All because of the connection in Louisiana and his affection down in his home state for him. That was the first real personal money making job MJ enjoyed so far in coaching. This is his second, his alma mater. Win big this season helps secure verbal commitments to sign and expand recruiting higher recruited players into the future.
Raiola and Joseph brought in several highly recruited players at their position of coaching. Our overall visits is high in quality and the commitments so far to the 13, or 15, 16 threshold is very impressive. To a program that has sucked for awhile With all the sell-outs, very good present facilities to great in one year’s time. The truth hurts, but we are in a critical stage in Nebraska football history.
If Scott Frost fails that just means another failure(5 consecutive). Plus the 50-50 at best chance for a sixth consecutive head coach to fail to bring Nebraska to regional or national relevance. I drink the red koolaid at times but the doomsayers are spiking their koolaid with addictive wrong antidotes for national relevance.
USC(especially) and UCLA hit the jackpot for furthering football relevance and ease the financial drain to athletic departments going forward after a few years of debt relief. In between. The main men sports(three) have increased competition since our arrival in the Big Ten which we sank lower in results.
Plus the really good Conference media rights just got pushed up to great compensation. Will Nebraska ever be nationally relevant in football again? Will men’s basketball ever be just a occasional invitee to the NCAA Tournament? Plus win a game or so in a given decade? Baseball has more competition from two very warm schools joining a cold weather conference for baseball and softball. Somehow, i think baseball and the new rules could be in the best position of the three major men’s sports.
But i really hope Scott Frost turns the corner in 2022 with definite progress and follows up with a better or successful 2023 season. The people who say screw you for thinking he has a successful year this fall, I say right back at you. I have no need to text back football messages with fellow posters who really hope for him to fail In football.
How can he when this is his first go around? Mickey has been at it for awhile and has ready made contacts in Louisiana...Busch got in with Doss and Mickey took over, Beckton has long term relationships in GA...no way should DR be expected to recruit like Mickey right out of the gate
An in is an in.
as for him not calling back a rivals or 247 analysts, so what? Maybe he was tired of talking to them or maybe he didn’t like the the dude that was calling. A million reasons why but you choose to think he didn’t like Nebraska.
Maybe just maybe he didn’t return the call because he was torn between wanting to come to a school that he watched his hole life and didn’t want to talk to the analysis because it was kind of a sad deal for him to realize he wasn’t coming here
Maybe you can say that at 1 visit, but Dylan was here 3 times , and 2 when his uncle had no affiliation with the school yet , but nice try!
So it sounds like we made a heck of a run at one of the best players in the class and lost out to one of the best programs in America. Not sure I see the issue here.
Let's give him a year. Let him show the o-line will be more physical. Let him show he will play young guys like Teddy and hopefully Henry. And it is not impossible that his nephew won't change his mind. After all, OSU will have higher rated recruits at QB.
Exactly. December of 2024 is a long way away. We know at least he’s still going to be paying attention to us. His uncle is obviously highly invested in N and his dad will be watching Husker games.
We are eventually going to be good again. I know people don’t believe that or have lost faith but when we do turn the corner it’s going to make waves in our favor. America loves a come back. But we gotta put some good years on the field for something like the #1 over all recruit to come to Lincoln
Let Mickey get a year in coaching and correct the receiver corp. I know everyone thinks it’s the O-Line probably holding us back on Dylan but it’s got a lot to do with our WRs. If I’m a QB that’s my biggest concern. Who can I throw to?
You've been taken to the woodshed on this one I'm afraid. That said, Mickey has way exceeded my expectations on the recruiting trail. I'm not sure he's a fair comparison for many assistant coaches.
I honestly can't believe people aren't more concerned about his potentially having been poisoned by one of the worst franchises in all of professional sports
the Bears were atrocious last year in every facet of O-Line play, including starting the worst-graded center in the entire league all year
it was thought when he was hired that recruiting (unknown) could be a bright spot since his bona fides (yikes) were somewhat head scratching
looks like we've got some good local OL coming in
the Bears were atrocious last year in every facet of O-Line play, including starting the worst-graded center in the entire league all year
it was thought when he was hired that recruiting (unknown) could be a bright spot since his bona fides (yikes) were somewhat head scratching
looks like we've got some good local OL coming in
C'mon, he was the assistant OL coach. Juan Castillo was the OL coach the last 2 years. That is like blaming the GA at Nebraska for the OL play the last few years. I also doubt he had much say in the Bears draft board or free agent recruiting.
he was in the building every day
I'm just a fan and the Bears have ruined me. I can't imagine the accelerated brain rot that type of proximity could potentially cause
Kind of like John Blake at Oklahoma. Helluva recruiter, lousy coach.
Unlike Blake, Mickey has had excellent record of recruiting and coaching talented receivers to the league.
In my opinion, I would as soon Raiola be a helluva coach, and leave the recruiting gigs to the Fisher, Mickey, Busch types.
To coach offensive linemen - our line play and player development over the last several years has been deficient at best.
Why were you over there checking? Definitely not going to pay! I think Sean might have bitten off more than he can chew@Baxter48 Why are you over on the other board? It's dead. Don't pay that buck. You don't need a pay board to get good discussion. All your buddies are over here. C'mon...