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steinek11

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Solid pick up. Still productive and stays healthy

In other news, Gronk calls it a career. I doubt he comes back. Life outside of football is too good.
 

otismotis08

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Denver finally got a QB. Chargers are good. Shaping up to be a battle. Best division in football?
I was a lifelong Charger fan until the day they left San Diego. The Chargers look stacked. A very tough division.
 

Big bo fan

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Solid pick up. Still productive and stays healthy

In other news, Gronk calls it a career. I doubt he comes back. Life outside of football is too good.
Not according to his agent, he said don’t be surprised during the season if Tom Brady would make a phone call , he said Gronkowski would probably answer the call.
 

steinek11

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Not according to his agent, he said don’t be surprised during the season if Tom Brady would make a phone call , he said Gronkowski would probably answer the call.
Gary Zimmerman was an All-Pro tackle for the Vikings and broncos. He was as tough as they came and played through a lot of injuries. As he got older and more savvy, he retired at least two times before preseason, and then came back in time for the regular season. He basically admitted and didn't want to go through the wear and tear of preseason and didn't need it. He was right.
 

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Uh oh. AFC West message board battle coming in 3...2.....1.....Go!!


 

otismotis08

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^^^ THIS! ^^^
Chargers ownership drove me crazy. Spanos family could not get it right. Fired good old Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 record. When the San Diego Chargers ceased to exist, I had my reason to walk away.
 

Big bo fan

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Gary Zimmerman was an All-Pro tackle for the Vikings and broncos. He was as tough as they came and played through a lot of injuries. As he got older and more savvy, he retired at least two times before preseason, and then came back in time for the regular season. He basically admitted and didn't want to go through the wear and tear of preseason and didn't need it. He was right.
This , he doesn’t need a preseason, when you agent says that on ESPN , that’s pretty telling!
 
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Raiders are way better than they were last season but they needed to be because it's the best division in football. Unfortunately they still have the worst QB in said division....but that is more of a compliment to the other three than a knock on Carr. It would surprise me if they made the playoffs.

I expect the Bolts to be in it for the divisiin title till the end.

Not to worried bout Denver....but they are also much better.

Still think it's KC's division to lose but if they do I expect it to be to the Bolts.
 
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Chargers ownership drove me crazy. Spanos family could not get it right. Fired good old Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 record. When the San Diego Chargers ceased to exist, I had my reason to walk away.

They fired a coach who couldn't win in the off season for a coach who couldn't win in the regular season

Not my quote but found it funny at the time.
 
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Raiders are way better than they were last season but they needed to be because it's the best division in football. Unfortunately they still have the worst QB in said division....but that is more of a compliment to the other three than a knock on Carr. It would surprise me if they made the playoffs.

I expect the Bolts to be in it for the divisiin title till the end.

Not to worried bout Denver....but they are also much better.

Still think it's KC's division to lose but if they do I expect it to be to the Bolts.
NFC west is a close second but Seattle won't be **** without a QB. Top to bottom AFC West is the strongest division.
 
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It don't look like Incognito will be a member of the Raiders any more. So much for that long standing question of what would happen if Suh and Richie squared off everyday in practice. Probably lots of hurt feelings all around if they did.
 

TruHusker

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Patriots bringing back the Red jerseys and cool helmets. Dont know why they got rid of them. Those were awesome.


Like! reminds me of the really old days of the AFL. I know some of you are not old enough for those days. Cool stuff though. I especially like the patriot centering the ball on the helmet.
 
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Like! reminds me of the really old days of the AFL. I know some of you are not old enough for those days. Cool stuff though. I especially like the patriot centering the ball on the helmet.
They wore those up until the 80s I think. Always liked those better than the ones they wear today.
 

bigboxes

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They wore those up until the 80s I think. Always liked those better than the ones they wear today.
The donkeys old logo and color scheme was better, too. I get there's talk about Suh. Is this mean there's a deal in the works or is this just wishful thinking?

Raiders are way better than they were last season but they needed to be because it's the best division in football. Unfortunately they still have the worst QB in said division....but that is more of a compliment to the other three than a knock on Carr. It would surprise me if they made the playoffs.

I expect the Bolts to be in it for the divisiin title till the end.

Not to worried bout Denver....but they are also much better.

Still think it's KC's division to lose but if they do I expect it to be to the Bolts.
I think Carr is a decent quarterback. He's got a good arm. He can drop the ball in just the perfect spot. He just doesn't win. Not as bad as Amart, but he's got a lot of chances with the Raiders. If he can't got further with this year's squad they may need to sign a free agent and trade Carr. Maybe Lamar? It would be nice if Carr could go out and do it. It should be a fun year. AFC West is definitely the toughest division in the NFL. Sorry Denver. The donkeys will suffer their 6th straight losing season.
 
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The donkeys old logo and color scheme was better, too. I get there's talk about Suh. Is this mean there's a deal in the works or is this just wishful thinking?


I think Carr is a decent quarterback. He's got a good arm. He can drop the ball in just the perfect spot. He just doesn't win. Not as bad as Amart, but he's got a lot of chances with the Raiders. If he can't got further with this year's squad they may need to sign a free agent and trade Carr. Maybe Lamar? It would be nice if Carr could go out and do it. It should be a fun year. AFC West is definitely the toughest division in the NFL. Sorry Denver. The donkeys will suffer their 6th straight losing season.
Nothing official on Suh. Last I heard he was heading to Vegas to meet with the team.
 
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The donkeys old logo and color scheme was better, too. I get there's talk about Suh. Is this mean there's a deal in the works or is this just wishful thinking?


I think Carr is a decent quarterback. He's got a good arm. He can drop the ball in just the perfect spot. He just doesn't win. Not as bad as Amart, but he's got a lot of chances with the Raiders. If he can't got further with this year's squad they may need to sign a free agent and trade Carr. Maybe Lamar? It would be nice if Carr could go out and do it. It should be a fun year. AFC West is definitely the toughest division in the NFL. Sorry Denver. The donkeys will suffer their 6th straight losing season.

If I'm Denver I sign Wilson to, and I'm doing cartwheels at the same time, but he feels to me like he's getting old, really fast, and who knows how well he will jell with all the new faces everywhere.
 
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The donkeys old logo and color scheme was better, too. I get there's talk about Suh. Is this mean there's a deal in the works or is this just wishful thinking?


I think Carr is a decent quarterback. He's got a good arm. He can drop the ball in just the perfect spot. He just doesn't win. Not as bad as Amart, but he's got a lot of chances with the Raiders. If he can't got further with this year's squad they may need to sign a free agent and trade Carr. Maybe Lamar? It would be nice if Carr could go out and do it. It should be a fun year. AFC West is definitely the toughest division in the NFL. Sorry Denver. The donkeys will suffer their 6th straight losing season.
Broncos old school were better too. Houston Oilers always had cool helmet and unis as well.