PAC 12 scraps divisions, will the B1G be next?
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B1G won’t do it for this year like the PAC 12, but usually what one of these conference’s does the other follows with them..
I think with 14 teams it's a bit of a stretch some years regarding the schedule...especially when we go back to 8 conf games.
I don't blame the Pac 12...they have been gawd awful and an afterthought in the playoff and have to try something to vault a team into contention for a spot in the future.
I'm pretty sure the Washington and Oregon schools hated going to divisions when the PAC expanded to 12 - those schools recruit California hard and they obviously preferred playing all four of the California schools every year.
Should have scrapped divisional play years ago. The only down side is if you have two teams with the same conference record who haven't played each other and both teams are vying for a spot in the CCG.
Same problem we currently have with division Champs because schedule not the same. Only division schedule should be used to determine division champ because everyone within the division plays same division schedule
Scrap the divisions. There is no way to make the championship completely fair so long as everybody isn’t playing everybody, like in the old Big 8. So scrap the divisions, make the schedule as fair as you can, and then let the top teams play at the end.
what do you care?
you get to play the same team every week and beat them by 50 while the media blows you incessantly to ensure the terrible-on-the-field-but-rich-off-it B1G a spot in the playoffs
nobody in the country has it as easy as ohiost
Given what we have now, scrap divisions. The west has never won the CCG and it usually isn't close. If we had two more teams pods would work but doesn't look like that's happening, not anytime soon anyway.
that you aren't is a you problem, not a "the B1G has other good teams" problem
I am not sold on the whole ryan day is a good coach thing, and neither should you be
can't even win the incredibly average B1G every year as both a monster pre-season favorite and 2+ TD favorite every Saturday
seems to me the guy was born on 3rd base and you bumpkins think he hit a triple
based on talent, you guys should absolutely be the team from the B1G that gets blown out in the playoff every year
Once again you're extremely butthurt about the Big 10 and it shows, you act like a teenager it's kind of hilarious.
What team in college football wins their conference every year? No one does that, not even Alabama.
And what's up with the Harbaugh quote? That was pretty cringe. Are you a Nebraska fan or a Michigan fan? Maybe you're Jim Harbaugh behind the screen.
No question scraping the divisions would be in Ohio St, Michigan and Penn St best interest with out worrying about winning the division..
Alabama plays in a good conference, your team does not.
You’re aware that your team is the only one in B1G history to win an outright football title under the B1G banner, right? That is because the B1G is a national joke and always has been.
Your team right now is -200 to win the conference. The next best odds are +1000. It is not even close!
The Big Ten will stay at 9 games. Playing outside the conference one more game isn't has good for TV ratings, as for example:
Iowa at Nebraska in 2021 on the Big Ten Network, which nearly outperformed the ACC Championship Game played on a national platform.
The SEC is more regional than they want to realize.
Divisions were awful for the Pac 12. The ACC learned in 2020 that divisions needed to go.
Penn State wants to end divisions and really doesn't care about rivalry games either.
Should Nebraska vs. Penn State be played as a protected series, as the 11th and 12th members who joined the Big Ten.
Certainly, Wisconsin-Minnesota is the oldest rivalry and needs to be maintained annually. There are others.
So is the SEC the only good conference? The Big 10 is better than every other conference not named the SEC.
Yes.
Your team is an astounding failure if they don’t go undefeated every year against that joke of a schedule.
I know you feel like the B1G is better than the other P5 leagues. On-field performance & history say otherwise. Outside of your program, the B1G is the MAC with a better publicist.
Mich and state Penn both stink every year. That’s your only competition.
That’s your opinion.. These 4 should be played every year..
Minnesota and Wisconsin
Ohio St and Michigan
Indiana and Purdue
Penn St and Maryland
Lol why? I've never heard of one of those mattering besides Ohio St and Michigan.
If the newbies are to be a protected rivalry it would be Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland.
Not sure about the blow outs in the playoffs. I believe OSU is either 4-3 or 3-3 in the NC playoffs including a NC in 2014
Didn’t you read the post you replayed too Minnesota and Wisconsin are the longest running rivalry in the history of college football..
I suppose you are for transgender men competing in women sports too..
While I love smack talk as much as anybody else, I think OSU is the one team I've come to respect in the B1G. They were the only other team to fight for a season during covid besides us. Just saying!
I would say 12 teams should get five protected annual opponents, based Big Ten history and history prior to Big Ten. Two programs with two protected opponents, to keep things even.
#B1G East breakdown
OSU - MI, PSU, ILL, IU & PUR
MI - OSU, MSU, PSU, MN & NW
MSU - MI, PSU. NW, IU & NE
PSU - OSU, MI, MD, MSU & MN
IU - PUR, OSU, ILL, MSU & RU
Only 2 each for newest based on limited B1Gfootball history
MD - PSU & RU
RU - MD & IU
#B1G West breakdown
ILL - NW, OSU, PUR, IU & IA
#Hawkeyes - MN, NE, WI, ILL & NW
MN - WI, IA, MI, PSU, NE
#Huskers - IA, MN, WI, PUR & MSU
NW - ILL, MSU, IA, MI & WI
Purdue - IU, ILL, OSU, NE & WI
WI - MN, IA, NE, NW & PUR
Five protected games
& 3-4 more B1G gms for the majority of Big Ten teams.
Not perfect, but worthy of consideration based on articles on subject.
#B1G East breakdown
OSU - MI, PSU, ILL, IU & PUR
MI - OSU, MSU, PSU, MN & NW
MSU - MI, PSU. NW, IU & NE
PSU - OSU, MI, MD, MSU & MN
IU - PUR, OSU, ILL, MSU & RU
Only 2 each for newest based on limited B1Gfootball history
MD - PSU & RU
RU - MD & IU
#B1G West breakdown
ILL - NW, OSU, PUR, IU & IA
#Hawkeyes - MN, NE, WI, ILL & NW
MN - WI, IA, MI, PSU, NE
#Huskers - IA, MN, WI, PUR & MSU
NW - ILL, MSU, IA, MI & WI
Purdue - IU, ILL, OSU, NE & WI
WI - MN, IA, NE, NW & PUR
Five protected games
& 3-4 more B1G gms for the majority of Big Ten teams.
Not perfect, but worthy of consideration based on articles on subject.
Hilariously convenient for you, an iowa fan, to leave purdue off your list
what, your laughing stock of an annual schedule isn’t easy enough? can’t beat ‘em, duck ‘em?
I agree with whoever said Mich-ohiost is the only B1G rivalry that matters & even that one has been a complete non-factor nationally for the better part of 50 years
Eliminating divisions wouldn't help Wisconsin, so I can't see de-facto football commisioner Alvarez going for it.
The Big Ten would have to respect Minnesota vs. Wisconsin, as well. It is the oldest one.
Yep, back in 1971, in West Lafayette, I attended my first Big Ten game, between Iowa and Purdue.
It is the longest continuous series.
If needed, trade Nebraska-Northwestern for Iowa-Purdue.
Both are good series.