Dylan Raiola #1 overall TOS

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I'm sure Nebraska fans would settle for a crappy defense if the team went 11-2 and won the Rose Bowl. We'll see if the hire of Jim Knowles as DC (and his $1.9M annual salary) was a good investment or not. New secondary coaches were also hired this offseason. No excuse for how bad the defense has been the last 2 seasons.
Did OSU replace the LB coach because I read the OSU boards a ton and that group seems to be the biggest concern. It sounds like LBs were a train wreck the last couple of years
 

Bigred_b1624

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Word on several OSU sites is that he's now a silent commitment to OSU after their Spring game as he loves their high-powered offense. The silent commitment let's them pursue a 2023 QB. It came down to Lincoln Riley's USC offense or Ryan Day's.
He's not
 

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I think you're generalizing here. Both Tressel and especially Urban utilized read-option QBs (Pryor, Braxton Miller, JT Barrett) whereas Ryan day utilizes a pro-style, NFL-type QB and offense. In fact, he was a QB coach in the NFL. His only 2 QBs at OSU have/had experience in the NFL - Dwayne Haskins (RIP) and Justin Fields and Fields could become a star with Chicago. In fact, OC Ryan Day was one of the key reasons Fields transferred to OSU. Day's current QB - CJ Stroud - is a drop back- in the pocket - QB and only runs when necessary (he can run).

So while I get the stigma with past OSU QBs, it's more important to look at the current staff and the type of offense they employ and I'm sure this was emphasized to Raiola
You’re right, I am generalizing

generally (100% of the time), ohiost quarterbacks are laughed out of the NFL as fast as their rookie contracts allow. They all suck & it’s because they went to ohiost to play a cupcake B1G schedule & faced zero speed on D outside of practice.

Also - I’m not convinced Day is some wunderkind, either. There’s no evidence of it outside of the B1G slurping media.
 

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If DR is going to commit to OSU, I wish he would just do it, so we can shift our focus to the Kaelin kid from Bell West, who’s racked up some impressive offers.
 

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He was never seriously consdiering Nebraska anyways after all of those offers came in. Better he go public with Ohio State now and then Frost and staff can get over it mentally and go bring in someone that wants to play at Nebraska.
 

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Maybe you along with those national pundits were wrong. The Big 10 is a strong conference, it is clearly the second best conference in college football top to bottom. Nebraska had success in the Big 12 and has struggled since joining the Big 10. So if the Big 10 is trash, the Big 12 is even worse (going off your logic)

It has nothing to do with the BIG. The conference is extremely average with one really good program.
 

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He was never seriously consdiering Nebraska anyways after all of those offers came in. Better he go public with Ohio State now and then Frost and staff can get over it mentally and go bring in someone that wants to play at Nebraska.
You're wrong, how embarrassing
 

wolve1972

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You’re right, I am generalizing

generally (100% of the time), ohiost quarterbacks are laughed out of the NFL as fast as their rookie contracts allow. They all suck & it’s because they went to ohiost to play a cupcake B1G schedule & faced zero speed on D outside of practice.

Also - I’m not convinced Day is some wunderkind, either. There’s no evidence of it outside of the B1G slurping media.
I actually think Day has one of the top 2 or 3 offensive minds (and schemes) in the country. I would almost bet that if you add up all of OSU's offensive stats over the last 3 years - PPG. YPG. passing. rushing, first downs, et,,,, - they'd be at the very top along with Oklahoma.

My question about Day is if he's a solid HC especially the way he let that PUTRID defense negate his top offenses the last 3 years. It was almost criminal and yes, I realize he gutted his defensive staff but let's wait and see how that plays out
 

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Yeah, seeing the same on several sites. Not sure if it was OSU or the kid's, but another 2024 5-star cancelled his visit this weekend (Jadyn Davis ?) which let OSU concentrate, wine & dine Raiola and his family. Pretty hard to recruit a HS offensive star when going against Ryan Day's offense. OSU's crappy defense, however, is a whole different story
Crappy defense? Well they hired Jim Knowles, the architect of the Oklahoma State defense and brought in some talented recruiters and coaches in the secondary. Plus the defensive recruiting classes for OSU in 2020 and 2021 were pretty stellar, those guys are now sophomores and juniors. No doubt the defense was bad the last couple years but that was mainly because the scheme was incredibly basic, we had a coordinator that did not know what he was doing and got demoted after the 2nd game last year. I don't think the OSU defense will be crappy going forward, they actually have an established coordinator and play caller orchestrating the defense now, not a first time guy that doesn't know what he's doing.
 

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I actually think Day has one of the top 2 or 3 offensive minds (and schemes) in the country. I would almost bet that if you add up all of OSU's offensive stats over the last 3 years - PPG. YPG. passing. rushing, first downs, et,,,, - they'd be at the very top along with Oklahoma.

My question about Day is if he's a solid HC especially the way he let that PUTRID defense negate his top offenses the last 3 years. It was almost criminal and yes, I realize he gutted his defensive staff but let's wait and see how that plays out
When you have the fastest team in a plodding and extremely average conference, it’s not hard to accumulate eye-popping offense
 

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I actually think Day has one of the top 2 or 3 offensive minds (and schemes) in the country. I would almost bet that if you add up all of OSU's offensive stats over the last 3 years - PPG. YPG. passing. rushing, first downs, et,,,, - they'd be at the very top along with Oklahoma.

My question about Day is if he's a solid HC especially the way he let that PUTRID defense negate his top offenses the last 3 years. It was almost criminal and yes, I realize he gutted his defensive staff but let's wait and see how that plays out
Day is more ruthless than Urban ever was. Urban had severe nepotism and kept coaches longer than he should have. Day did not hesitate to can 4 assistants in the off season for the betterment of the team. He straight up said no this defense sucks, I'm hiring an established DC and paying him 2mil to fix this.
 

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Crappy defense? Well they hired Jim Knowles, the architect of the Oklahoma State defense and brought in some talented recruiters and coaches in the secondary. Plus the defensive recruiting classes for OSU in 2020 and 2021 were pretty stellar, those guys are now sophomores and juniors. No doubt the defense was bad the last couple years but that was mainly because the scheme was incredibly basic, we had a coordinator that did not know what he was doing and got demoted after the 2nd game last year. I don't think the OSU defense will be crappy going forward, they actually have an established coordinator and play caller orchestrating the defense now, not a first time guy that doesn't know what he's doing.
I understand your enthusiasm as an OSU fan but I think the point is let's see how it plays out on the field. I do agree, though, it has nowhere to go but up because the OSU defense the last couple of years was at rock bottom and that's on the HC
 

wolve1972

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When you have the fastest team in a plodding and extremely average conference, it’s not hard to accumulate eye-popping offense
I keep seeing a few in this thread calling the B1G a weak, slow, and average conference. Kind of strange considering the problems Nebraska has had. My question to you - what conference would you rather see Nebraska part of ?
 

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It has nothing to do with the BIG. The conference is extremely average with one really good program.
What makes the Big 10 extremely average? It's had multiple teams contend for the playoffs (Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State). It's bowl records are usually pretty decent, and the Big 10 usually always has the toughest bowl slate top to bottom every year with its bowl tie ins. You're basically saying every team under the SEC is an average to bad conference.
 
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There is an occasional outlier. But the Big Ten has one really good team and a group of teams that have slightly above average seasons every now and again. Winning bowl games, as a barometer, went out the window when the CFP came into existence. Players opt out of playing in bowl games to prepare for the draft. That doesn’t happen, often, in CFP games.
 

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He was never seriously consdiering Nebraska anyways after all of those offers came in. Better he go public with Ohio State now and then Frost and staff can get over it mentally and go bring in someone that wants to play at Nebraska.
Sorry but yes he was and still is. Dig your hole on another topic.
 

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Word on several OSU sites is that he's now a silent commitment to OSU after their Spring game as he loves their high-powered offense. The silent commitment let's them pursue a 2023 QB. It came down to Lincoln Riley's USC offense or Ryan Day's.
Allows us to move in and not waste time in then. Glass half full given the massive amount of time and focus on someone we won’t get.
 

wolve1972

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Allows us to move in and not waste time in then. Glass half full given the massive amount of time and focus on someone we won’t get.
Keep in mind, it's just rumored as a "silent" verbal which means there's still a long way go. This will be a critical year for Frost (obviously) and a West championship could result in winning some key recruiting battles
 

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I keep seeing a few in this thread calling the B1G a weak, slow, and average conference. Kind of strange considering the problems Nebraska has had. My question to you - what conference would you rather see Nebraska part of ?
aside from ohio st, which B1G team has proven anything on the field against other P5 conferences?

I'll answer - in the entire history of the conference, no other program has won an outright title under the B1G banner. none have really come close, either.

I will speak for every single sane Nebraska fan and just say I cannot wait for the day conferences finally dissolve since we're not getting an SEC invite any time soon, and that's the only conference that moves the needle at all when it comes to stuff that matters to fans (winning, not molesting students constantly, etc).

ohiost's schedule is a joke every year because they don't have to play themselves, and they're only team in the B1G capable of competing on a national level. their quarterbacks stink in the NFL because they no longer get to pick apart a bunch of 22-year-old, 2/3-star future accountant-riddled slow B1G defenses.

we don't beat B1G teams very often, but we're 0-fer against other P5 conferences in Frost's tenure, including 0-2 against a perennial Pac12 bottom feeder. we stink despite our competition, not because of it.
 
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aside from ohio st, which B1G team has proven anything on the field against other P5 conferences?

I'll answer - in the entire history of the conference, no other program has won an outright title under the B1G banner. none have really come close, either.

I will speak for every single sane Nebraska fan and just say I cannot wait for the day conferences finally dissolve since we're not getting an SEC invite any time soon, and that's the only conference that moves the needle at all when it comes to stuff that matters to fans (winning, not molesting students constantly, etc).

ohiost's schedule is a joke every year because they don't have to play themselves, and they're only team in the B1G capable of competing on a national level. their quarterbacks stink in the NFL because they no longer get to pick apart a bunch of 22-year-old, 2/3-star future accountant-riddled slow B1G defenses.

we don't beat B1G teams very often, but we're 0-fer against other P5 conferences in Frost's tenure, including 0-2 against a perennial Pac12 bottom feeder. we stink despite our competition, not because of it.
We play Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State and Iowa this year. How is that a joke of a schedule? I can tell you and many other Nebraska fans hate the conference but you could at least try and be reasonable. Ryan Day however is turning around Ohio State QBs and the NFL.

You said Nebraska stinks despite their competition, not because of it, yet they are 44-49 in conference play since joining the conference 10 years ago. And the more recent you go, the worse that record becomes. I would say the strength of the Big 10 is a big reason for Nebraska "stinking", especially when you compare it to their Big 12 record for the previous decade. And lastly the Big 10 is always littered with draft picks. Usually every year the Big 10 is second in most draft picks.
 

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We play Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State and Iowa this year. How is that a joke of a schedule? I can tell you and many other Nebraska fans hate the conference but you could at least try and be reasonable. Ryan Day however is turning around Ohio State QBs and the NFL.

You said Nebraska stinks despite their competition, not because of it, yet they are 44-49 in conference play since joining the conference 10 years ago. And the more recent you go, the worse that record becomes. I would say the strength of the Big 10 is a big reason for Nebraska "stinking", especially when you compare it to their Big 12 record for the previous decade. And lastly the Big 10 is always littered with draft picks. Usually every year the Big 10 is second in most draft picks.
So you only play 2 good teams, not really difficult. The fact that Nebraska doesn't win the west 90% of the time speaks to the mismanagement of the program.
 

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So you only play 2 good teams, not really difficult. The fact that Nebraska doesn't win the west 90% of the time speaks to the mismanagement of the program.
More than 2 good teams, you're under valuing the conference pretty hard. And to expect Nebraska to win the west 90% of the time is once again under valuing the conference. Ohio State doesn't even win the east 90% of the time.
 

Bigred_b1624

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More than 2 good teams, you're under valuing the conference pretty hard. And to expect Nebraska to win the west 90% of the time is once again under valuing the conference. Ohio State doesn't even win the east 90% of the time.
You only listed 2 good teams. The conference is trash and deep down you know it is. Ohio State carries the conference on it's back.
 

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So you only play 2 good teams, not really difficult. The fact that Nebraska doesn't win the west 90% of the time speaks to the mismanagement of the program.
Our Big 10 record is because of our own incompetence not because the Big 10 has been so outstanding…

Only I will agree is that the Big has the toughest bowl arrangement but only tOSU has been competitive in the CFP everyone else was whipped soundly..
 

Bigred_b1624

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Our Big 10 record is because of our own incompetence not because the Big 10 has been so outstanding…

Only I will agree is that the Big has the toughest bowl arrangement but only tOSU has been competitive in the CFP everyone else was whipped soundly..
Correct
 

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Glad you finally admitted that the big is trash. Other conferences are trash, but manage to not be rapey like the big is
So the conference isn't trash, you're just moving the goal posts and being butthurt about the move to the Big 10, explains a lot
 

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This sounds like the PSU situation all over again. They were going to come in during the early 90s and dominate. We all saw how that turned out. Excuses, excuses.....blah, blah, blah !!!!!
PSU did dominate the big10 when they joined... Went undefeated in 94, weren't national Champs though...
 

Bigred_b1624

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So the conference isn't trash, you're just moving the goal posts and being butthurt about the move to the Big 10, explains a lot
No it is trash and didn't move goal posts at all. Not sure why you think I'm "butthurt" for pointing out facts about a trash conference.