https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...or-steroids-during-the-owner-imposed-lockout/
I see a lot of home runs this year.
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MLB to stop testing for steroids
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https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...or-steroids-during-the-owner-imposed-lockout/
I see a lot of home runs this year.
Did you read the article? It says they aren’t testing during the lockout. They’ll obviously get back to testing after it ends.
Sure, but you can't really test players for drugs when they are locked out. Same happened with the NFL and NHL.
Seems far fetched. I’m not sure either side would be in favor of it.
What percent of players would actually take steroids if they could get away with it? And more importantly, how many of those guys would say out loud that they don’t want testing? That’s basically admission that they juice or at least would juice if they could.
At the upper levels I bet almost everyone cheats, just depends on much performance they need vs the risk level you take. You can get designer drugs that are not able to be tested yet or bioidentical to the stuff thats in your body so it is virtually impossible to detect. I think the players that are on the fringe of making the team will use more and might not have access to the best stuff. There's also stem cells that improve performance and dramatically decrease healing time, and is unable to be tested.
I love baseball, but steroids are part of what I hate about it at times. The fixation on homers. Strikeouts at an all time high. MLB games are almost unwatchable with the lack of action. Swing and miss, walks, K’s and a couple homers is not my idea of a fun game.
Agree with you. I love baseball but the game has been almost unwatchable for the past 10-12 years.
Yeah, America hated it when Sosa and Mark were battling for the HR crown.
It was so boring!
I want to see a slappy hit to the opposite field, followed by a bunt...followed by a 12 pitch at bat that ends with advancing the runner to 3rd with two outs and then a shallow popfly for the 3rd out and no runs.
It was so boring!
I want to see a slappy hit to the opposite field, followed by a bunt...followed by a 12 pitch at bat that ends with advancing the runner to 3rd with two outs and then a shallow popfly for the 3rd out and no runs.
I walked away from the game during the McGwire/Sosa years and haven't been back since.
I always resented Barry Bonds using steroids cause he had enough raw talent to make the Hall of Fame and instead chose 'roids just to set records.
I did hate the Sosa and Mark era. I posted before I seen your message.
When they are doing it for records, those ring shallow to me. Same with all the others. If a guy has to take 'roids to set records, then he's living a lie.
I'm biased as a Royals fan, but the Royals teams from '13-'15 were the most fun teams to watch of the last 20 years. Didn't hit homers, put the ball in play at a high rate, stole bases and played great defense.
The only MLB games I ever watched were the Royals, just LOVED the style they played in the one World Series that I watched. It was so much different in style that it just make it fun to watch how they did unconventional "baseball" at the Major League level, yet making it work.
I'm an oldtimer, 60's Dodger fan, then late 60's the Cardinals. You could write in the starting lineup (minus pitcher) for about 10 straight years.
Same with Cubs, Pirates, Cincy, everybody. Then Curt Flood got the great idea.
To this day, could probably still name from 6 to 8 starters on most every team in MLB during the 60's.
Lived in KC during the Amos Otis, John Mayberry, Saberhagen years.
The year McGuire hit 70 homers he struck out like 150 times. Ohtani struck out 189 times last year and they act like he's the best thing since Babe Ruth. Joey Gallo? 213 K's last season. McGuire and Sosa couldn't hold a candle to the strikeout numbers that today's hacks are putting up. Home runs have always been an exciting part of the game, but yeah, I think there's more to the game and today's version is boring.
Agreed. I didn't mean all teams are unwatchable just that the game, as a whole, is not as easy to watch.
In the real world, a guy with 189 or 213K's, would be about a #6 hitter in my lineup. Either they don't know the strike zone, refuse to walk or no one has ever charted their at-bats to see how they fare with different pitch counts.
I coached from '71 to '97 and I knew every one of our hitters batting average versus pitch counts. Some kids you just had to make something happen before the count got to 1-2 or 2-2. LOL
Saying this as an admittedly pretentious baseball fan, that’s exciting for people who understand the game at a surface level. There’s way more to the game than muscling a ball out of the park.
Baseball is at its best when it’s a chess match, which is why the (former) NL game is better.
Would chess be more exciting if every time you took out one of my pawns you’d get to sucker punch me in the face? Sure, it’d probably get more viewers. But that wouldn’t be chess, and the people who love chess for what it is would be upset. Not everything has to be about drawing in surface level fans just for a few more bucks.
So let's just say they don't reinstate it. Do the players who've been black balled for juicing become eligible for hall of fame?
Seems to me if you were a formal major league star, or you are one of the voting members, and know that virtually all members in the HOF made it on their own merit, then I doubt any of the cheaters are gonna get in.
Yes, there were smokers/drinkers/wife beaters, etc that made it to the HOF, but that era, with the huge numbers, spell cheater.
If Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Henry Aaron, and hundreds of other power hitters couldn't hit the volume of homers some of those 'roid era guys did, then it doesn't seem like its viable, unless you're 'roided up.
i hated them bc Will Clark was my childhood hero and they beat us in '87, but to this day the mid 1980s Cardinals are the most exciting baseball team I've ever seen. At least one year of those years they had more double digit triples hitters than home run hitters.
That’s still their MO. It’s a big ballpark so they have to play that way. I’m a Royals fan, too. So I agree with you.
Well, that's good news for the players. They will have little time to gain strength. However, all these tests are too unpredictable. For doping, you can generally screw up your entire career without hope for rehabilitation. Being an athlete is hard; I certainly would not have withstood such pressure. It's all too complicated, damn it. I am glad that I am free in this regard. If it's hard for me to build muscle mass, I can take steroids without any problems. I'm just now studying a new product from sarms for sale. It helps to build muscle mass in the shortest possible time. Isn't that lucky, guys?
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