Of passing interest here, Kade Warner ...

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Sorry, but I've never heard of the guy. Does he play for N?
He did. All-America talent, very similar to your cute little guy

you wouldn’t have heard of him at NU, though, because AM was responsible for getting him the ball (he either couldn’t or got him killed when he did)

kid leaves AM for a mediocre B1G castaway QB, catches 100 balls, leads the best conference in receiving and is now off to the NFL draft

AM being forced out of NU is the biggest win we’ve had in 20 years. enjoy the season! Hahahaha
 
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Well, I admit to not following Kentucky football. But it's interesting that he was successful there but not at N.
 

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Should be a wonderful combination. AM to KW for 2 yards at a time.
Kade made some nice catches here last season. Everyone was very pleased to see him come back for another. He's also considered a huge asset in the locker room as his leadership is off the charts.

K-State's offense under Courtney Messingham was truly awful, and still, they went to a bowl game, beat LSU, and finished with 8 wins. Messingham was canned. Collin Klein took that role for good reason. Collin will be the head coach here at some point.
 

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Kade made some nice catches here last season. Everyone was very pleased to see him come back for another. He's also considered a huge asset in the locker room as his leadership is off the charts.

K-State's offense under Courtney Messingham was truly awful, and still, they went to a bowl game, beat LSU, and finished with 8 wins. Messingham was canned. Collin Klein took that role for good reason. Collin will be the head coach here at some point.
Oooohhhhh I bet he is wonderful. Good reddens! Go be what ever the hell he thinks he can be at K suck State.
 
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Kade made some nice catches here last season. Everyone was very pleased to see him come back for another. He's also considered a huge asset in the locker room as his leadership is off the charts.

K-State's offense under Courtney Messingham was truly awful, and still, they went to a bowl game, beat LSU, and finished with 8 wins. Messingham was canned. Collin Klein took that role for good reason. Collin will be the head coach here at some point.
He had 14 grabs in 12 games. Edit 13 games
 

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Wandale Robinson wasn't successful at Nebraska? He was the team's leading receiver his sophomore year, and 2nd leading receiver as a freshman. Poor take.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how Martinez does at KSU. He undoubtedly will get better coaching. I'm not sure he will be surrounded by overall better talent, but he will certainly be surrounded by teammates that are better coached.

The determining factor will be whether he cuts down on the game-changing, back-breaking, catastrophic errors that surfaced nearly every game. That, and whether he can finally break through and make a play to win an important game, instead of fumbling or throwing a pick. Maybe that is the same thing.
 

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Wandale Robinson wasn't successful at Nebraska? He was the team's leading receiver his sophomore year, and 2nd leading receiver as a freshman. Poor take.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how Martinez does at KSU. He undoubtedly will get better coaching. I'm not sure he will be surrounded by overall better talent, but he will certainly be surrounded by teammates that are better coached.

The determining factor will be whether he cuts down on the game-changing, back-breaking, catastrophic errors that surfaced nearly every game. That, and whether he can finally break through and make a play to win an important game, instead of fumbling or throwing a pick. Maybe that is the same thing.
Wan'Dale was as successful here as any athlete would be with a 10,000 lb anchor like Adrian Martinez tied around his neck
 

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I guess Deuce Vaughn better be ready to transfer then after a season of AMart?

Seems like a lot of bitterness here which I can understand given what's become of N football since Frank left. That's a long time.
 

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I guess Deuce Vaughn better be ready to transfer then after a season of AMart?

Seems like a lot of bitterness here which I can understand given what's become of N football since Frank left. That's a long time.
no, he'd just better be ready to increase his catch radius by 500% while being led into the teeth of the defense

watching a guy lose 30+ games and calling him a loser isn't bitterness, it's the truth

nobody in the country did more to cost his team games than Adrian Martinez over the past 4 years, and maybe ever

I honestly don't see any way to spin his career here into hope for the future. lots of mental gymnastics & willful blinders required for you to be even 1% excited for his arrival.
 

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Hey, Collin Klein said that when he heard AMart went to the portal, he jump in his car and immediately headed to Lincoln.

I don't claim to be a quarterback expert, nor have I followed N football much. But if Klein said that, a K-State fan like me is naturally excited at the prospect.

Again, y'all maybe right about the future. For me, I'll continue to sip the purple Kool-Aid until proven poisoned.
 

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no, he'd just better be ready to increase his catch radius by 500% while being led into the teeth of the defense

watching a guy lose 30+ games and calling him a loser isn't bitterness, it's the truth

nobody in the country did more to cost his team games than Adrian Martinez over the past 4 years, and maybe ever

I honestly don't see any way to spin his career here into hope for the future. lots of mental gymnastics & willful blinders required for you to be even 1% excited for his arrival.
Why are you guys feeding this troll?
 

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he will thank me around mid-October for warning him against the dangers of mixing high expectations and Adrian Martinez
This is a little like debating Missouri fans who we play in September. Yes, we'll likely be chatting in October as well. I love Nebraska. I have so many N friends in and out of the family. So, it's rather like debating at the family picnic back in Sioux City.
 

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This is a little like debating Missouri fans who we play in September. Yes, we'll likely be chatting in October as well. I love Nebraska. I have so many N friends in and out of the family. So, it's rather like debating at the family picnic back in Sioux City.
except this isn't a debate

you have happened upon the survivors of a horrific accident, all of which are telling you exactly what occurred

would be a real shame to see you cast aside our experience, citing the presence of colin klein & a little person as reason enough for a better outcome, only to end up in the same tangle of mind-numbing Ls
 

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My hope is that the improvement you saw in the Kentucky transfer will follow with AMart as well with what I truly believe is far better coaching and circumstances.
 

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except this isn't a debate

you have happened upon the survivors of a horrific accident, all of which are telling you exactly what occurred

would be a real shame to see you cast aside our experience, citing the presence of colin klein & a little person as reason enough for a better outcome, only to end up in the same tangle of mind-numbing Ls
I'm curious as to why they want to take on our failures. AM never won at Nebraska and he's coming in injured. That's the formula for success.
 

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The injury is problematic. But Skylar Thompson was similarly hurt and had a solid senior year. He didn't practice during the spring either. But he did well, did well last night in the East-West Shrine Game, and has an NFL Combine invite.

Klein obviously sees in AMart a fit for K-State's system or he wouldn't have gone after him. It's really that simple.

Coaches always feel they can do things with talent that didn't achieve expectations at the other place. That just who they are. This may or may not be a case in point. We'll see this fall if Klein or N was correct.
 

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I watched last year as nearly every whiny b*tch on this board predicted failure for Wandale Robinson in the SEC because the speed and physicality would eat him up. Kid shined like a comet in the SEC last year, proving all of you idiots wrong. 2AM is very talented. Not sure what K-State returns at WR, but plugged into a good system, and K-State has one, 2AM will do very well.
 

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I watched last year as nearly every whiny b*tch on this board predicted failure for Wandale Robinson in the SEC because the speed and physicality would eat him up. Kid shined like a comet in the SEC last year, proving all of you idiots wrong. 2AM is very talented. Not sure what K-State returns at WR, but plugged into a good system, and K-State has one, 2AM will do very well.
You are delusional. Go get your prescription filled.
 

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I watched last year as nearly every whiny b*tch on this board predicted failure for Wandale Robinson in the SEC because the speed and physicality would eat him up. Kid shined like a comet in the SEC last year, proving all of you idiots wrong. 2AM is very talented. Not sure what K-State returns at WR, but plugged into a good system, and K-State has one, 2AM will do very well.
Wan'Dale shined for the same reason our offense will shine this year:

no more AM!

there are winners and there are losers in this world. AM has proven, time and again, which category he falls into.
 

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You are delusional. Go get your prescription filled.
Oh, I remember it very well. At the time, I was distraught over losing Wandale R because he was the only WR threat we had. Who were the others? Falck? Warner? Liewer? LOL. The white man's brigade at WR. But everyone here was jealous that WRob was leaving for Kentucky and predicted his demise. Didn't happen. So eat it, buddy.
 

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Wan'Dale shined for the same reason our offense will shine this year:

no more AM!

there are winners and there are losers in this world. AM has proven, time and again, which category he falls into.
Right. Yeah. I think his OL were...what were they, winners or losers last year? Kind of helps when you're a QB to have consistent protection. Another idiot on the board.
 

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Oh, I remember it very well. At the time, I was distraught over losing Wandale R because he was the only WR threat we had. Who were the others? Falck? Warner? Liewer? LOL. The white man's brigade at WR. But everyone here was jealous that WRob was leaving for Kentucky and predicted his demise. Didn't happen. So eat it, buddy.
You realize of course that WanDale wanted to get the hell away from AM, right? His terrible, inaccurate passing was getting him killed over the middle.
 

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Right. Yeah. I think his OL were...what were they, winners or losers last year? Kind of helps when you're a QB to have consistent protection. Another idiot on the board.
Bryce Young was pressured and sacked more times than AM

Joe Burrow led the NFL in sacks

both are competing/competed for a title

AM made every single player on offense worse due to his complete lack of instincts, vision and even basic fundamentals as a passer

our best offense was getting the ball out of his hands as soon as possible and requiring as little thinking on his end as possible.

there are handcuffs (solved with a key) and there are pre-Renaissance dungeon shackles (solved only by the sweet reprieve of death). AM was the latter for our offense.
 

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You realize of course that WanDale wanted to get the hell away from AM, right? His terrible, inaccurate passing was getting him killed over the middle.
No. He wanted to get away from Frost and the OC and the system that had him playing RB. Hello?
 

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Bryce Young was pressured and sacked more times than AM

Joe Burrow led the NFL in sacks

both are competing/competed for a title

AM made every single player on offense worse due to his complete lack of instincts, vision and even basic fundamentals as a passer

our best offense was getting the ball out of his hands as soon as possible and requiring as little thinking on his end as possible
Uh huh. Yawn.
 

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Right. Yeah. I think his OL were...what were they, winners or losers last year? Kind of helps when you're a QB to have consistent protection. Another idiot on the board.
Whether he had one second or 5 seconds to pass the ball, it didn't matter. He couldn't read defenses and didn't trust himself. He knew his lack of accuracy and slow decision making were the recipe for interceptions.

Scott Frost has been tied to one loser quarterback for his entire tenure here. It should have cost him his job. But now that we've got some real quarterback talent in the room, this offense will start to be functional. We won't have to rely on getting excited by the quarterback taking off and running because his passing is so poor. Those are the facts Jack
 

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No. He wanted to get away from Frost and the OC and the system that had him playing RB. Hello?
The dwarf wanted to be used in the running game. You've got selective memory. Frost was dumb enough to give in to it. 170 lb iback. Pathetic.
 

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anyone who liked watching AM play quarterback must love seeing Alonzo Verge at point guard

they are the same player
 

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i predict amart stars at k-state surrounded by an all-american running back in deuce vaughn, solid receivers, and a sound offensive line, something gone-wanting in lincoln. this is his last shot. he will be in a pro-style system playing for coaches, fans, and teammates who want him to succeed. we'll see who is correct come fall. given what I've seen of him, i'm sure all but the lowest of N fans will want to see him succeed here.
I don't think, but could be wrong, that am will participate in spring ball. I'm sure their QB coach is better than what we had, but it would be nothing short of a miracle they get his deficiencies fixed to be "the guy "
 

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No. This is. Here's a link. You think this guy was the weak link in our offense?

unquestionably. Adrian Martinez lowered our ceiling to the point where his best year ever resulted in 4 wins

he's a score-first volume point guard who shoots 25% from the floor
 

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No. This is. Here's a link. You think this guy was the weak link in our offense?

these "highlights" aren't nearly the flex you think they are

vast majority of balls under thrown, touchdowns after he'd already pissed the game away via turnovers and some good scrambles

we won't miss any of it one bit
 

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unquestionably. Adrian Martinez lowered our ceiling to the point where his best year ever resulted in 4 wins

he's a score-first volume point guard who shoots 25% from the floor
No. The OL and Special Teams lowered our ceiling. That was OBVIOUS.

You're comparing this to Verge? GTFO.
 
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