Two Blackshirts Invited to NFL Combine

king_kong_

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will be very interesting to see how CTB runs, if he chooses to

I expect Domann to impress with lateral quickness/explosiveness/versatility

good for both of them!

 

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Danniels and Jurgens not even invited. Perhaps they should revisit their decisions to leave early.
 

HuskerAlum92

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I’ve heard it is a deep draft for centers. If he’s not going to get drafted, it would be nice to have Jurgens back. Same for Danniels. If they both choose to leave anyway, then I don’t think that speaks well for team culture. I think everybody is tired of losing, watching other teams play in bowl games.
 

king_kong_

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Danniels and Jurgens not even invited. Perhaps they should revisit their decisions to leave early.
I'm pretty surprised Jurgens didn't receive an invite. have to think he would've lit it up in an environment like this.
 

73 Red I

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I’ve heard it is a deep draft for centers. If he’s not going to get drafted, it would be nice to have Jurgens back. Same for Danniels. If they both choose to leave anyway, then I don’t think that speaks well for team culture. I think everybody is tired of losing, watching other teams play in bowl games.
Weren't Jurgens and AM roommates? I know they were good friends and did at lot of things together. Maybe AM and Jurgens got tired of all the negativity towards them and decided it was time to go.
 

PCastro

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I’ve heard it is a deep draft for centers. If he’s not going to get drafted, it would be nice to have Jurgens back. Same for Danniels. If they both choose to leave anyway, then I don’t think that speaks well for team culture. I think everybody is tired of losing, watching other teams play in bowl games.
That is why MN’s center is playing another year in college
 

Suhrreal

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Not convinced Jurgens is a center in the NFL. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at TE. Neverthless, he should be at the combine.
 

dinglefritz

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I'm pretty surprised Jurgens didn't receive an invite. have to think he would've lit it up in an environment like this.
They'll still get an opportunity to show what they can do at our pro day. I think some of the draft ranking services might be putting too much weight on all of the bad snaps from before with Jurgens. All it takes though is one GM to tell a kid they'll sign him if he's around late or they'll sign him as an UDFA. Somebody is going to like his athleticism. No doubt there's a MUCH larger draftable class this year due to the large number of players who stuck around college for an extra year due to COVID. As much criticism as he gets, I think he was a pretty damned good center for us this past year. He might just be done with being a "college kid" and might want to get on with his life.
 

dinglefritz

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Not convinced Jurgens is a center in the NFL. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at TE. Neverthless, he should be at the combine.
He's a center in the NFL. The only way he ever plays TE in the NFL is if he's on the field as an extra blocker. He's very athletic for a center. Not so much for a TE in the NFL.
 

HuskerO58

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Not convinced Jurgens is a center in the NFL. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at TE. Neverthless, he should be at the combine.
Too short, too heavy and not quick enough to be a NFL TE. He's a better fit for interior line imo.
 

Suhrreal

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Too short, too heavy and not quick enough to be a NFL TE. He's a better fit for interior line imo.

How much "bad" weight did he put on to play OL? I think there's an NFL team out there that would love him as a blocking TE/HB.
 

HuskerO58

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How much "bad" weight did he put on to play OL? I think there's an NFL team out there that would love him as a blocking TE/HB.
That's possible & maybe I'm way off, but he just seems too slow to be an outside blocker. Once he gets going I'm sure he can build up a lot of speed, but I just don't see the quickness there from him outside of being a good interior blocker.

Either way, I hope he makes in the NFL & I actually think he will.
 

TruHusker

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A lot of second guessing his change of positions and all that goes with it. The weight, speed, quickness, etc. Was he even in the mix to be a serviceable TE? I don't recall him being a factor there. Given the recent additions, it would be even more difficult. Given all that I am not sure he had much opportunity to see the field any other way so he should be thanking Frost, if it was indeed his idea. Where else was he going to make a difference?

And please Dingle, we are talking NFL, not HS. They can fix a lot of small technical issues like hiking the ball. They are looking at his entire body of work, making line calls, ability to block and dominate his man, make the more difficult blocks and more.

Do scouts sometimes miss? Sure, but the eyes on this board can't compare to the NFL scouts.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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How please? He has hands of stone.
oh I just don't think center is his natural position, and by playing that position at the insistence of SF, he's now a question mark about what position/how does he fit, type thing at the next level. Basically, his future is not as clear, meaning more risk/less money for a team looking to draft or sign him. Hope that makes sense.
 

dinglefritz

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A lot of second guessing his change of positions and all that goes with it. The weight, speed, quickness, etc. Was he even in the mix to be a serviceable TE? I don't recall him being a factor there. Given the recent additions, it would be even more difficult. Given all that I am not sure he had much opportunity to see the field any other way so he should be thanking Frost, if it was indeed his idea. Where else was he going to make a difference?

And please Dingle, we are talking NFL, not HS. They can fix a lot of small technical issues like hiking the ball. They are looking at his entire body of work, making line calls, ability to block and dominate his man, make the more difficult blocks and more.

Do scouts sometimes miss? Sure, but the eyes on this board can't compare to the NFL scouts.
The "analysts" I was referring to were internet nerds who ranked the college centers, not actual NFL scouts or GMs. Hiking the ball consistently however is not a "small technical issue" for a center. I don't think Jurgens is ready for the NFL but IF he stays in I think his athleticism will get him drafted late or signed as an UDFA. I also expect he would stick on a practice squad.
 

TruHusker

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The "analysts" I was referring to were internet nerds who ranked the college centers, not actual NFL scouts or GMs. Hiking the ball consistently however is not a "small technical issue" for a center. I don't think Jurgens is ready for the NFL but IF he stays in I think his athleticism will get him drafted late or signed as an UDFA. I also expect he would stick on a practice squad.
And these days, who doesn't get a UDFA deal?
 

king_kong_

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The "analysts" I was referring to were internet nerds who ranked the college centers, not actual NFL scouts or GMs. Hiking the ball consistently however is not a "small technical issue" for a center. I don't think Jurgens is ready for the NFL but IF he stays in I think his athleticism will get him drafted late or signed as an UDFA. I also expect he would stick on a practice squad.
I think Jurgens will get drafted, and maybe even in the middle rounds

it's way easier for a team to take a shot at a toolsy OL project than basically any other position outside of edge rusher. guy's played a ton of games and it's not hard to recognize his plus athleticism. the right film editor could probably put together a 5+ minute long highlight reel of him getting around the corner/downfield.

the 15-yard personal foul he had called on him like 60 yards downfield against OU this year was really, really impressive (not satire, dead serious). not a lot of guys who can do that.

plus, lots of notoriously bad franchises have amassed a lot more than the customary 7 picks this year
 

TruHusker

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The "analysts" I was referring to were internet nerds who ranked the college centers, not actual NFL scouts or GMs. Hiking the ball consistently however is not a "small technical issue" for a center. I don't think Jurgens is ready for the NFL but IF he stays in I think his athleticism will get him drafted late or signed as an UDFA. I also expect he would stick on a practice squad.
Oh geez, Jurgens has problems snapping until someone comes along and tells him what he is doing wrong. So it must not be that difficult to fix. Does one have to have a PhD in snapping for crying out loud or just some decent coaching might make a huge difference as it did in his case.
 

king_kong_

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Cam and Austin Allen receive combine invites, joining CTB and Jojo

am I really reading this right - 6'9" Austin Allen had one (1) redzone touchdown in his career here? woof

anyway, good for them - hope they show out!

 

mgbreeze

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Cam and Austin Allen receive combine invites, joining CTB and Jojo

am I really reading this right - 6'9" Austin Allen had one (1) redzone touchdown in his career here? woof

anyway, good for them - hope they show out!


Cam will kill the combine. I can't believe anyone can watch him and not easily see the interior line potential jumping off the screen.
 

HuskerAlum92

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I want them all to get drafted. I assume Jurgens and JoJo will test very well. They all do have some questions

Jurgens - snapping
JoJo - tweener
AA - limited targets
CTB - bonehead plays

None of those will matter if they show enough upside potential.
 
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I think Allen and Jurgens both get drafted before CTB. I dont think JoJo gets drafted (unless its Rd7), but will be a very quick UDFA signee
 

Suhrreal

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I want them all to get drafted. I assume Jurgens and JoJo will test very well. They all do have some questions

Jurgens - snapping
JoJo - tweener
AA - limited targets
CTB - bonehead plays

None of those will matter if they show enough upside potential.

I wouldn't call JoJo a tweener in today's NFL. He is "multiple" as former Husker coaches liked to say. There are plenty of ~220 pound LBs in the league these days.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Cam will kill the combine. I can't believe anyone can watch him and not easily see the interior line potential jumping off the screen.
And let's not forget, he will taking a HUGE jump in technical coaching at that next level. It's hard to imagine he was getting great coaching here when it took them forever to fix the snapping situation.

I know interior dudes at the next level are big, really strong, a lot of them have power and quickness but not that much foot speed. Jurgens has good wheels.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I think Allen and Jurgens both get drafted before CTB. I dont think JoJo gets drafted (unless its Rd7), but will be a very quick UDFA signee
Respectfully disagree, but we never know how they will do overall at the combine. Jo Jo will probably wind up in Dallas.
 

HuskerAlum92

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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cam-jurgens/32004a55-5210-3822-9dbb-b91dcd3e365e

By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Overview
Center prospect with a lack of desired measurables and position versatility that could cap his draft value. Jurgens is quick with above-average athleticism but needs to harness his energy and play with better control in the early stages of the rep to improve his strike zone and success rate. He's a bit of a leaner in pass protection and could struggle to find his anchor against rugged bull rushers. He can play in a variety of run schemes but has average backup talent.
Strengths
  • Three-year starter who has made the calls up front.
  • Quick hip roll into initial block at point of attack.
  • Lateral quickness and athletic ability to climb and cut off middle linebackers.
  • Hand strength to clamp in and ride it out.
  • Snap-to-step quickness for successful reach blocks.
  • Plays with a strong core.
  • Throws hands with some pop into target in pass pro.
  • Fluidity that gives screen games a boost in space.
Weaknesses
  • Size and overall mass fall below the mark.
  • Can be too hurried and impatient getting into his block.
  • Will over-step or land at unfavorable angles.
  • Climbs to second level require choppier steps for balance.
  • Oversetting opens his back-side edge to rushers.
  • Short arms diminish his block redirection in recovery mode.
 

HuskerAlum92

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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/austin-allen/3200414c-4c06-1490-4c63-89f2f6bc36a0

By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Overview
Sky-scraping tight end with in-line potential if he can continue filling out his frame with additional muscle. Despite his tall center of gravity, Allen will flash as both a down blocker and as an athletic, moving shield when blocking in space. His release and route running are heavy and plodding; he's unlikely to beat man coverage on the next level without scheme help. He is willing and able to catch the ball in traffic and his height gives him a theoretical advantage on jump-ball throws. Allen appears to have football in his future, but his level of success could be determined by whether or not he can develop into a true "Y" as a pro.
Strengths
  • Team captain.
  • Decent drive power as down blocker.
  • Lands with some force as a move blocker near the line.
  • Effective adjustments to land and sustain in space.
  • Quick to open and present his frame on zone beaters.
  • Wingspan to reach and capture the throw up high.
  • Courageous working into traffic.
  • Strong hands catch the ball through collisions.
Weaknesses
  • Needs to improve his upper-body strength.
  • Below-average block-finishing mentality.
  • Narrows his base when attempting to sustain blocks.
  • Heavy and plodding when releasing into the route.
  • Intermediate routes take a long time to finish.
  • Posted just three career receiving touchdowns.
  • Has trouble hauling in lower throws.
  • Lacks juice for yards-after-catch success.