Better coaches…. College head coaches or pro AS A RULE….
I think college… ours not withstanding
I’ll duck now
I think college… ours not withstanding
I’ll duck now
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Label me confusedBetter coaches…. College head coaches or pro AS A RULE….
I think college… ours not withstanding
I’ll duck now
Each level has elite… saban and belichek for example… but is Zac more elite than Lincoln Riley because he coaches in the pro ranks?
It’s a different skill set. What makes a great college coach doesn’t make a great nfl coach and vise versa. College is more authoritarian. Being a parent and disciplinarian. NFL is about buy in and ego management. There’s a reason saban didn’t do well in the nfl. There are very few success stories of coaches being successful at both levels for a reason.
Did Saban become a better coach from his MSU days, or just get better players at LSU and Bama
NFL. The best college coaches often try to prove themselves in the mens league and fail more often than not. The very best NFL coaches do not clamor to be in the college ranks. It's a demotion or a chance to revitalize a career.Better coaches…. College head coaches or pro AS A RULE….
I think college… ours not withstanding
I’ll duck now
Probably both as he was young at MSU
i don’t think Saban has the same degree of success at a place like Iowa State
In the NFL, every team plays the exact same way....and the only position that matters is quarterback.
teams used to play the same way
now? not so much
No one accused Bill Belichick of being a genius until he had players. Great players can really make a coach smarter.
I feel like there are more coaches on the payroll than college.. maybe im off and I know each college team has GA assistants but seems like head coaches in the NFL are more gane managers
You might think that they all play the same way but that isn't exactly true. Most play on the conservative side rather than aggressive play calling (which has been changing) but philosophy isn't the same across the board, offense or defense.
I think KC is a good example here with their offensive scheme or how defenses switch it up to defend their scheme.
The biggest difference is that you don't have a roster full of holes to take advantage of on a weekly basis.
NFL anything >>>>>> college anything
and that's no disrespect to what it takes to run a successful college football program
and that's no disrespect to what it takes to run a successful college football program
Different set of skills as some have mentioned. College coaches have more control over their roster so the good/great ones are basically able to stay at the same job forever if they want or don't lose their edge. NFL requires a different style of leadership, has a hard salary cap, and has a GM that makes decisions that go above the coach's head sometimes. Still need a franchise QB if you want to have any longevity in the NFL.
Tougher to survive as a HC in the NFL for sure.
Tougher to survive as a HC in the NFL for sure.
Must be why the $30 million man always takes the Vikes so deep into the playoffs.
Regardless of if you think that all NFL teams play the same way....you have to agree that the only position that matters is quarterback.
That's part of the reason I quit watching about 3 years ago. It's not much different than watching a quarterback-skills-competition event.
That's part of the reason I quit watching about 3 years ago. It's not much different than watching a quarterback-skills-competition event.
I respectfully disagree… in a league where you have a Jackson, Mahomes, Allen, hill( well
), the difference in style has never been greater to meYeah...and 90% of the talk and highlights are about the quarterbacks. And how great the quarterbacks are. Big defensive plays aren't even allowed anymore.I respectfully disagree… in a league where you have a Jackson, Mahomes, Allen, hill( well
Well, YES!!! Tell me a time when it WASN’T qb driven…. Then it might have been running back driven…
I agree that defense has been incredibly hamstrung
People need to think of football as a product. The consumers want more bang for their buck which is big passing plays, dynamic catches, and running backs breaking through the line.
No one wants to watch Iowa Hawkeye snoozefest defensive struggles. It's part of the game, but not the part that draws in the majority of fans. When star QBs and receivers are out with injury, the whole thing suffers. There's actually something a little bit sick about people who like to see other people get hurt. Obviously it's the defense's job to hold the opponent down, so you want your own defense to be awesome, but you of course want it to be second fiddle on the team if you're honest.
you admit you don't watch the NFL, yet here you are, extolling an admittedly ignorant point of view in hopes of.... what, exactly?
not only are you completely wrong, you're openly admitting you don't know anything about football on the whole.
typical B1G fan. bet you didn't bother to watch the national championship game, either.
That actually sums it up pretty well. If you guys will hold on a little bit, I'm going to opine on the field of astrophysics later today
Exactly. The NFL is a product. A money-making business. And they have determined that they can get the most viewership by airing the ball out like a pinball game. They want every-other play to be a 20+ yard pass. They don't want the quarterbacks hit or hurt. They want as many big electric plays as possible.
It's okay if you guys still like it. It's just not for me. I like a well-rounded game with variety.
Not every team drafts as bad as the Jets. Long time Jet fan here.I for one am glad not every team plays like the Jets