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konaki

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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
 

99_BoothBalloons

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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
A lot to be excited about, but my concern is the defense will take a step back. Offense and special teams need to compensate by eliminating the crazy mistakes.
 

TruHusker

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I am not certain it comes down to each of the individuals but more about how they all work together. I have advocated for bringing in a "grizzled and experienced" person to up the level of "we have seen it all" and I believe some of that has happened. There simply is not a book on Raiola to know anything about his coaching the entire OL by himself - to me he is the wildcard and a big one at that.
 

Headcard

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I think we have made terrific, safe hires everywhere, except what might be the most important, the OL. If DR gets that group playing well, we will have a good season, if not, we probably won’t.
 

BleedRed78

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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
I think it's hard for them to NOT have a winning record season compared to previous offensive coaches. Defense - I'll continue trusting the upward trend of the culture on that side of the ball... For now
 

inthedeed

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going from the hire your friends as staff coaches to hire experienced professionals as staff coaches will work out well. the only one without a long proven resume is a possible, worse case is he turns out about the same.
 

EastOregonHusker

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I honestly think that we should be an above average Big Ten team next year…improved for sure. I still have a my concerns about the program going forward. Recruiting absolutely needs to pick up.
 
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BleedRed78

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I honestly think that we should be an above average Big Ten team next year…improved for sure. I still have a wife and Serns about the program going forward. Recruiting absolutely needs to pick up.
Why? When we can just plunder the portal for proven experience and rank in the top ten in that category to boot. Far less unknowns and projects!
 

konaki

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I honestly think that we should be an above average Big Ten team next year…improved for sure. I still have a wife and Serns about the program going forward. Recruiting absolutely needs to pick up.
Speaking of recruiting when you add Joseph, Whipple, Busch and Applewhite to the mix vs Held, Lubick, Verduzco how can it not be better. We've gone from a C grade to an A or B with theses additions on offense now we just need the defense to pick up on their side of the ball. I admit Raiola is still a question mark for me but after years of the Austin tutelage of our OL it's got to be a breath of fresh air. It's going to be fun watching spring ball this year.
 

HominidHusker

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I think we have made terrific, safe hires everywhere, except what might be the most important, the OL. If DR gets that group playing well, we will have a good season, if not, we probably won’t.
Yeah- Raiola has a lot to prove, and he’s got to do it with an underperforming unit that lost their best player.
He’s got a critical job to do.
 
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I am not drinking any damn kool aid until we show it on the field. And let's not get ahead of ourselves. I think the new hires are definitely an upgrade, but it usually takes time for a new coaching staff to mold players into their system. Sometimes it does lead to an immediate turn around though so there is hope. But I am going to remain a pessimist until Frost shows he can field a team that knows how to win.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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It depends on how many of the junior high mistakes were tracible to Frost or to his assistants. If they were Frost's mistakes, and he will still be making those calls, then we will still lose winnable games. I'm talking about holding a slim lead with a minute left and throwing a swing pass to the back, which he drops thereby stopping the clock and allowing the other team to drive the field and kick the winning FG with no time left. Or holding a slim lead and setting up a max punt protection to the right side of the field when you know your punter cannot finesse his punts. It is that kind of crap that causes us to be "snake bit" and if Frost keeps his hand in the pie, I expect more of the same.
 

Sporty

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The same leader is still in command. He is going to have to let his coaches coach their positions for this team to be successful.
 

steinek11

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Apr 18, 2004
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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
It is kind of nice to have some adults in the room and not that former band of misfits.
 
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It is kind of nice to have some adults in the room and not that former band of misfits.
I think this staff is a definite improvement and what we now have are proven Power5 coaches with excellent coaching credentials and recruiting chops. But all of it underscores the biggest mistake Frost/Moos made which was bringing in all of Frost's former coaches from UCF. I suppose you could argue that they had been so successful that it made sense to bring them along. And Frost may have insisted upon it as a condition of taking the job, so you can hardly blame Moos for saying yes. But there were a few prophetic voices on this board (not me I assure you) who were saying that this was a mistake and that the shift from UCF to the big leagues necessitated a change in coaching staffing to better match the needs of playing in the B1G. In hindsight they were correct. The result has been four wasted years. Frost was too wedded to the idea of having coaches that were in his comfort zone and who he already knew. This is why after firing Walters, he hired Lubbock instead of going out and getting a really seasoned and proven OC. He knew Lubbick and liked the fact that Lubbick was already familiar with Frost's offense and so that was that.
 

TruHusker

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I think this staff is a definite improvement and what we now have are proven Power5 coaches with excellent coaching credentials and recruiting chops. But all of it underscores the biggest mistake Frost/Moos made which was bringing in all of Frost's former coaches from UCF. I suppose you could argue that they had been so successful that it made sense to bring them along. And Frost may have insisted upon it as a condition of taking the job, so you can hardly blame Moos for saying yes. But there were a few prophetic voices on this board (not me I assure you) who were saying that this was a mistake and that the shift from UCF to the big leagues necessitated a change in coaching staffing to better match the needs of playing in the B1G. In hindsight they were correct. The result has been four wasted years. Frost was too wedded to the idea of having coaches that were in his comfort zone and who he already knew. This is why after firing Walters, he hired Lubbock instead of going out and getting a really seasoned and proven OC. He knew Lubbick and liked the fact that Lubbick was already familiar with Frost's offense and so that was that.
I was one calling for some veteran coaches coming in, I was not sold on the complete UCF staff.

Just a guess but I would bet the staff figured out after the first year or two this wasn't going to work. They changed things on O and especially D. Then came the "we are very close" games/years that got hopes up only to see the same 3-4 wins. If you think you are close, then just a player here or there can make the difference, no need for wholesale change. That's where I think the mistakes came.
 
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realHuskerDrew

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My biggest question would be on D. Was this past season an aberration due to several super seniors being here? We lost CTB, JoJo, our safeties, DD, and stille.
We were not good on D for three years so I am not about to assume that every year will be like last year.
Whipple calling plays and running his offense would at least be a refreshing change too.
 

Walleye 1

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My biggest question would be on D. Was this past season an aberration due to several super seniors being here? We lost CTB, JoJo, our safeties, DD, and stille.
We were not good on D for three years so I am not about to assume that every year will be like last year.
Whipple calling plays and running his offense would at least be a refreshing change too.
I agree. We hit the portal hard and didn't add anything to some area of need. I'm really concerned our D-line will be pushed around next season. It could be ugly on defense next year.
 

Blackshirt316

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Everything is probably a slam dunk massive upgrade on that list. The only question is at QB. Thompson is better than what we have had in Martinez over the last couple years, the only question is would he be better next year than a 5th year Martinez would have been under Whipple.

But the thing is if the offense and defense can simply maintain productivity (so the offense improves even if the D is a bit worse.) Nome of the names you have there are the primary reasons we win significantly more games next year.

We are going to win significantly more games by virtue of a massive upgrade on special teams. We have a legitimate return threat in Palmer , an elite field goal kicker in Weinrich and most importantly an all American level punter in Buscemi.

Buscemi. Weinrich and Palmer.. those are who are going to be most responsible for the turnaround into division championship winning team.
 
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I agree. We hit the portal hard and didn't add anything to some area of need. I'm really concerned our D-line will be pushed around next season. It could be ugly on defense next year.
Everyone talks about the loss of Daniels on the line, but we are also going to miss Stille. He was not a good pass rusher but he was a better than average run stopper. And as far as I can see there is nobody currently on our roster on the defensive line that leaps out at you as even better than average. Alberts said just the other day that he wants us to be a really physical team again. He understands how important it is to win the trenches in the B1G. We can add all of the skill position players we want, but it won't matter on wit if our lines are not good. Ty Robinson has the most experience on the defensive line but so far he has not shown me much. He alternates between being very good to being below average. He is not hard to leverage. Riley? Polar Bear? Maybe they step up to the plate. They definitely have he size, but do they have the athleticism and stamina? The verdict is out on that. And Raiola has his work cut out for him with our offensive line. Nobody coming back has shown any ability to dominate the line of scrimmage. Our tackles are a complete joke. And now we, apparently, are going to have Corcoran at center. Yikes.
 

FissionReaction

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Did we upgrade our coaching staff? Maybe. Only time will tell, but don't expect immediate results. Our new OC lead an offense ranked 87th and 79th nationally in his first two years at Pitt. You're probably setting yourself up for disappointment is you expect to see a Top 50 offense his first year here.
 

ohio_husker

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I feel that the coaching staff could be a better group and still may not see good enough results to keep Frost after the next year and has less of a chance to keep fans from grumbling.
How often do teams replace half their coaching staff and have good cohesion then following season? There is also some high turnover of players and while the talent and play may be better, the chemistry issues again could limit the upside.

The difference in schedule could be enough for AdTA to say improvement is visible and justify another year. The team has to get to a bowl for ANY chance of that happening and I don't see them being a lot better than 6-7 wins due to the turnover of players/coaches. Maybe if they REALLY kill it recruiting but that would be hard to do without big results on the field.
 

inWV

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Coaching of WRs, QBs, and RBs has been upgraded. Whipple is an actual OC, as opposed to OC in name only. OL coaching is a wait and see. To extent it matters (if they don't win this season, it doesn't), recruiting has been upgraded.
 

oldjar07

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Oct 25, 2009
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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
Thompson makes a massive difference. I see 10 wins, and I think we could be a top 10 offense next year. The defense will definitely slip. As long as special teams is semi-competent, we should be ranked to end the season.
 
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Yeah- Raiola has a lot to prove, and he’s got to do it with an underperforming unit that lost their best player.
He’s got a critical job to do.
Austin was a bad coach but the poor performance of the O-line played a part too. Without a serious talent upgrade I don’t the offense getting better next year. Nice kids but just not good enough at this level.
 

HominidHusker

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Austin was a bad coach but the poor performance of the O-line played a part too. Without a serious talent upgrade I don’t the offense getting better next year. Nice kids but just not good enough at this level.
We’ll find out more this year with new coaching. Underclassmen at 3 spots across was not an ideal position to be in.
While I have doubts, I’m anxious to see what happens with some older bodies this go around.
 

oldjar07

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We’ll find out more this year with new coaching. Underclassmen at 3 spots across was not an ideal position to be in.
While I have doubts, I’m anxious to see what happens with some older bodies this go around.
Prochazka is the best talent we've had at OL for a long time. Corcoran is obviously talented, we just need to find the right spot for him. Nouli is solid, the Ok. St. guy seems good. We just need to find 1 more guy who's competent and we should be just fine on the OL.
 

TruHusker

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Prochazka is the best talent we've had at OL for a long time. Corcoran is obviously talented, we just need to find the right spot for him. Nouli is solid, the Ok. St. guy seems good. We just need to find 1 more guy who's competent and we should be just fine on the OL.
I really hope the kid from okie light contributes. Right now, I don't see what all the hype is, he hardly played for them but many have penciled in to start? That may be part of our problem.
 

inWV

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I really hope the kid from okie light contributes. Right now, I don't see what all the hype is, he hardly played for them but many have penciled in to start? That may be part of our problem.
2019 (Freshman): Saw action in nine games and started four ... His first career start came as a right tackle against Kansas State, a game in which the Cowboys rushed for 373 yards and claimed a 26-13 win over the No. 24 Wildcats ... Started at right guard against Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU ... Rotated in for important stretches of nearly every game during the second half of the season
2020 (Sophomore): Opening day starter at right tackle who was nearly lost for the season after sustaining an injury in week one ... Missed eight contests, but returned for the regular-season finale and for the bowl game.

 

TruHusker

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2019 (Freshman): Saw action in nine games and started four ... His first career start came as a right tackle against Kansas State, a game in which the Cowboys rushed for 373 yards and claimed a 26-13 win over the No. 24 Wildcats ... Started at right guard against Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU ... Rotated in for important stretches of nearly every game during the second half of the season
2020 (Sophomore): Opening day starter at right tackle who was nearly lost for the season after sustaining an injury in week one ... Missed eight contests, but returned for the regular-season finale and for the bowl game.

So he started 4 games his freshman year and apparently lost that spot as he "rotated in" in the second half of the season. Then he was hurt much of his sophomore year and missed eight games.

Obviously we need lots of help on the OL, is he the guy? How many Husker OL could have the same general Bio but are already related to battling for playing time.
 

jteten

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This is gonna sound odd considering, ya know, 3 wins, but I’m not sure we are gonna be more talented across the board vs the 2021 squad, but I am confident there will be better execution, more wins and a better path forward in 2022. Or more of the same. **** if I know. GBR.
 

HominidHusker

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Prochazka is the best talent we've had at OL for a long time. Corcoran is obviously talented, we just need to find the right spot for him. Nouli is solid, the Ok. St. guy seems good. We just need to find 1 more guy who's competent and we should be just fine on the OL.
Prochazka looked good, but it was also a very small sample size. I’m hesitant to get too far ahead of ourselves on him (esp. coming off injury), but do feel like he’ll be in the mix.

Corcoran was also injured most of fall and barely ready early in the season.

Raiola needs to figure out what he’s got and how to make it work. It’s been commented before that he wants OL to be more on the attack vs Austin’s reported ‘on the defense’ style (which I’m sure is only partially accurate).

I do like the change in mentality because I saw a few plays where OL looked like they were coached to run block a space instead of blocking a man- resulting in failure.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Will Nebraska finally get over it's mediocre football performances, you make the call.

OC Whipple or Lubick
OL Austin or Raiola
RB Held or Applewhite
QB coach Verduzco or Whipple
ST Dawson or Busch
QB Martinez or Thompson

Better team 2021 or 2022

I would say we have improved in all area's and we should see vast improvement in all areas which will lead to a winning season.
You do realize it takes 4-6 years to rebuild a sh*tty program - right?
 

B1G RED RULES

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I think this staff is a definite improvement and what we now have are proven Power5 coaches with excellent coaching credentials and recruiting chops. But all of it underscores the biggest mistake Frost/Moos made which was bringing in all of Frost's former coaches from UCF. I suppose you could argue that they had been so successful that it made sense to bring them along. And Frost may have insisted upon it as a condition of taking the job, so you can hardly blame Moos for saying yes. But there were a few prophetic voices on this board (not me I assure you) who were saying that this was a mistake and that the shift from UCF to the big leagues necessitated a change in coaching staffing to better match the needs of playing in the B1G. In hindsight they were correct. The result has been four wasted years. Frost was too wedded to the idea of having coaches that were in his comfort zone and who he already knew. This is why after firing Walters, he hired Lubbock instead of going out and getting a really seasoned and proven OC. He knew Lubbick and liked the fact that Lubbick was already familiar with Frost's offense and so that was that.
I feel so much better with Trev overseeing the program. Very impressed with the changes he has implemented thus far.