Our AD may be staring down the barrel of two massive buyouts in the next year.…and the timing could not be worse from a financial standpoint, given that the AD had a $28 million shortfall last year. Sipple gave his most critical review of Hoiberg this morning. If Thompson and the other transfers don’t save Frost, the Moos’ two big hires may go down as the most colossal failure in NCAA history.
Trev better be saving his nickels
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Nebraska football will be good enough next year to have Frost around a lot longer. No we aren't winning the B10 but will be good enough. Basketball seems like it is lost, but can be turned around with a few players. Trev will give Fred another year for sure.
Nothing flips as easy as Bball and Fred has a 15 mil buyout so I don't see him getting fired. Will be interesting to see how this plays out though.
Part of Fred’s problem is he likes/relies on flipping his roster. That breeds very little continuity and cohesive teamwork (as evidenced by this year). We have a collection of misfits that don’t fit together. I believe both Verge and Webster will be gone, so he’ll need a PG. McGowans isn’t anywhere near ready but will probably declare and go play in the G-League. The team will likely be without any marquee players again who have been in the system. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
The hires looked great. The contracts were ridiculous. For all of the "open the checkbook" guys, this is what happens when you open the checkbook and the hire doesn't work out. It handcuffs you for years. IF you can Fred or Frost you're pretty much relegated to hire some young up and comer who will work for "minimum wage" as far as P5 salaries go. I was all for hiring Frost but man when I saw the dollars guaranteed I figured we were pot committed. When we hired Fred I thought man we must have plenty of cash for this. Now I'm not so sure. I think we're pot committed and might be forced to give them both a couple of more years.
I’d agree with but for the fact I didn’t think there was a chance in hell that Frost could keep his job going 3-9.
In all seriousness, you want to make more money? Play VB in pinnacle, offer more tickets, would be guaranteed to fill, put basketball back at devaney until they earn the right to play in front of 15000 fans. I’d let Fred go and the whole program at this point, waste of money. Let’s get football fixed then concentrate on other stuff.
Selling beer at PBA would also help make some money....and that might be the only way to get people to come to basketball games next year.
The problem with Frost’s contract is the extension he was given, not the original contract in my opinion. Moos and Green deserve blame for the extension.
And not to mention he had the fan’s approval for both…
Very few disagreed with both hires..
Agree. Both hires appeared to be slam-dunks at the time. It’s just shocking that neither one has worked out, at least so far.
IMO Doc needs to go. As much as we talk about our offensive ineptitude, our defense has been horrendous and that's Doc's area. I know some of you love Doc, but I just don't think he's a very good coach. I'll duck now.
I can not imagine that the extension was Green's idea. He might have approved it but Moos seemed to be all in on Frost and a little too willing to spend money. Make no mistake, there were people influencing decisions who aren't employed but the University of Nebraska as well.
Green recently said that he approved the extension. That's why I put him in there with Moos.
It is clear frost is (still) in way over his head. The worst outcome of next year would be for him to be retained. If we actually want this program to consistently be at the top of the division, he ain't getting us there. Fools gold if he gets to 8 wins against a weak schedule. What then, another extension with more financial commitment, to a guy who would have 1 winning season in 5 years? Great
I think he deserves to stay if he gets 8 wins. The worst scenario is getting 6 wins or maybe even 7 and staying because I don't think that will mean he's turned a corner. But a lot will depend on whether they still look sloppy or look better coached.
So 1 win is the difference of whether or not he has turned the corner? That's silly if that is your position. If we look better coached, that's great, but that isnt going to be too difficult, and again, Frost has underperformed every year, because he isnt a head coach. Us getting to 8 wins wont change that. The floor has fallen out on expectations for far too many of you.
I think some of his problem was his success calling plays at UCF, so in his mind he thought he could be just like Osborne calling plays and being head coach..
Now that Whipple is on board I’m interested on how he handles being just the head coach..Because he couldn’t handle both jobs on game day..
Agree… not ONE person ssid( or could have ssid) those were bad hires AT THE TIME…
Yep. Everybody would have hired frost. Giving him an extension without even having a 6 win season was what was stupid
I didn’t like the Frost hire. Not because of his performance (which was good). Just never liked him.
This is one of the worst defensive basketball teams I can ever recall. I simply can't recall one worse in the last 40 years of Nebrasketball.
If the pure lack of effort wasn't bad enough, it is like watching Junior High kids trying to grasp basic concepts of playing team defense.
Losing Trey was massive. He was the only guy that actually played any defense. Guys have to sit if they aren't going to put in effort on the defensive end.
I think his biggest problem is preferring stars and rankings over need. He would take a 4 star wing over the 3 star pg that the program is desperate for. Need and fit should be priority. Get the best player you can at the position of need.
So he failed at the one thing he was supposed to be good at and the reason he got the job. He isnt good. If we have success this year, it is because someone forced him to make changes. He's not taking the program anywhere.
We said that all year about Frost too. "No way he can keep Frost if he goes 4-8 or 3-9 again this year!"
This is an idiotic take. This is what happens when you cheap out and lower your standards when the head coach is a proven failure. There's a ton of programs in a lot worse financial shape than us even if we had to buyout two coaches in the same year. This is Nebraska cheap, conservative, and stupid mentality that doesn't work in an era where other programs burn money like it's nothing in order to stay competitive.
Obvious TA made him make changes.... At least we’re more physical playing in this conference than we were with smiley Riley..
I’m not sure what you mean why he got the job other than he was the hottest coach in the country and was coach of the year and he won a national championship playing here..
That’s my biggest issue. If Frost hits his magical number, he’s supposedly extended as well? Effin stupid. So, for that reason, I am out. I want him to fail and get fired next year.
I don’t want to win 8 games, have him then get bumped back to 5 mil and extended just to realize he’s the same suck *** coach. I’ll take my chances with the next guy, whoever that will be. If there was no built in extension then that would be another story.
You have absolutely no idea what our financial situation is, but are willing to go full blast that we need to spend more to achieve better results.
Football has gone with a full on move towards an open Free Agency system. Whatever you want, just go and buy it. NIL $ is crazy, and will only get crazier.
Who are our boosters that will continue to throw down 10s of millions without seeing any kind of results? There are a crap ton of schools with much deeper and more pockets than we have.
The buy out on SF was more of the reason and maybe a few other boosters want to give Frost another shot..Is my guess..
20M buy out was a tough pill to swallow before they renegotiated his contract moving forward..
I don’t understand statements like this
Riley was horrible but Frost hasn’t managed a conference record in 4 years better than Riley’s worst and hasn’t come close to his best conference record
CONFERENCE RECORDS
Riley’s worst - 3 wins. Frost’s worst - 1 win.
Riley’s best - 6 wins. Frost’s best - 3 wins.
I don’t know how one reconciles that with “at least we are more physical “