The portal has really made team rankings obsolete. If a team has 21 high school and JC recruits and 4 transfers, the incoming class may be higher than a team a team with 17 high school & JC recruits and 8 transfers. Both have 25 incoming new players but the transfer should find a quicker return high school kid. I think the transfers will fill immediate needs like punter and kicker in Nebraskas case.
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OK - so my question is this - many of the transfers are players who are unhappy in regard to playing time. So if they're not goid enough to play for someone else - how are they good enough to play and help us?
The Montana punter has always wanted to play at Nebraska. His idol is Sam Koch. He's an FCS All-American. Some kids want to play in front of more than 3000 fans. Some want a scholarship to a B!G school. The DB from ASU was recruited by Nebraska out of high school but because of COVID he wasn't able to visit. So now he visits and will transfer. We're getting a very good kicker from another small program. Same deal. Full scholarship to a B1G school. OSU recruits 4 and 5 star DBs every class. So we get a kid who for whatever reason was 3rd on their depth chart. Good for us. That doesn't mean he won't be a great player for us.
The way I look at the portal, is I'm looking for players upgrading. Guys like Toure.
I don't want downgrade guys 'stepping down'.
QB is a bit fussy, but it always is, the rest of the positions we should damn well be combing the upgrade guys that are hungry and fully believe they are better. Guys like Kenneth Walker III that Mich State nabbed last year from Wake Forest. Solid player, but needed and wanted a bigger spotlight. Much like Toure, when given the opportunity, they shined.
I don't want leftover 4*s from Bama, or UGA, or anybody else cause they simply weren't good enough to crack their 44. Leftovers are for the day after Thanksgiving. They aren't for major college football if you want to win.
I don't want downgrade guys 'stepping down'.
QB is a bit fussy, but it always is, the rest of the positions we should damn well be combing the upgrade guys that are hungry and fully believe they are better. Guys like Kenneth Walker III that Mich State nabbed last year from Wake Forest. Solid player, but needed and wanted a bigger spotlight. Much like Toure, when given the opportunity, they shined.
I don't want leftover 4*s from Bama, or UGA, or anybody else cause they simply weren't good enough to crack their 44. Leftovers are for the day after Thanksgiving. They aren't for major college football if you want to win.
The question is how do you do it? Do you use the kids high school ranking and add it to the class? Do you rerank? This would be a total crap shoot. I don’t know what the answer is so I’m just spitballing.
I don't see the rankings as being far off. The fact is, in general, it is better to get a high ranking high school class than a bunch of jucos and transfers (yes, I know MSU is an exception). You get kids young and develop them in your system for 4-5 years (in theory). Transfers seem to be more miss than hit and have fewer years of eligibility.
We've stunk for years at developing players. We aren't magically going to develop 5 or 6 freshman to save Frost and the new staff.
They need immediate contributors. Not just starters. Guys that can contribute and win games. Guys like Samori Toure.
Yes they re-rank juco players but not portal transfers. Guys like Toure, Nouili, Oliver Martin, or even Brewington have never made an appearance as part of a Husker recruiting class or had an effect on our recruiting rankings.
Rutgers and Indiana both get six 4* players, Ohio State and Penn State have fifteen 4* players. Impressive, most impressive.
Some of them yes. But, those are kids that have played some college football. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to rerank someone that hasn’t played for 3 years at an FBS school. Jackson Hannah is a perfect example. Do you go with his high school rank?
The top 8 teams in the rankings were the 8 eastern most teams in the conference (7 east teams and Purdue). The east has the edge of 58-12 in 4*/5* over the west.
I think Covid had a big impact on this year's classes with the population centers having a huge advantage.
I do agree. The portal and transfer situation has really diminished the meaningfulness of recruiting rankings. The roster is so fluid these days it's really hard to say how the current roster will look in a couple of years.
Today's signing class has two guys who weigh more than 250 pounds.
In the Big Ten. Where the heavies rule the line of scrimmage. Two guys.
I know the portal is going to address the immediate needs, but you recruit for 3-5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And tomorrow Nebraska is going to get pushed around by Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
In the Big Ten. Where the heavies rule the line of scrimmage. Two guys.
I know the portal is going to address the immediate needs, but you recruit for 3-5 years in the future, not tomorrow. And tomorrow Nebraska is going to get pushed around by Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
EXACTLY!
Team rankings is alot different these days, and quoting #77 ranking as some dig at Frost is incredibly misleading.
Recruiting could be better (can always be better), but its vastly more complicated than a simple ranking.
The metric on taking portal players on scholarship should be whether they can improve your position group in the coming season. On offense, Brewington, Stepp, Martin, Toure, Falck and Noulii all were portal contributors to varying degrees.
As far as NU's team recruiting ranking, I wrote that off long ago. It is far from NU's biggest problem, which is really just to play somewhere near the putative talent. If coaching was an issue, I think Whipple and Joseph are coaching trade ups and should be able to produce better play in that is possible. Raiola is a wait and see I guess.
As far as NU's team recruiting ranking, I wrote that off long ago. It is far from NU's biggest problem, which is really just to play somewhere near the putative talent. If coaching was an issue, I think Whipple and Joseph are coaching trade ups and should be able to produce better play in that is possible. Raiola is a wait and see I guess.
You need an update.
Iowa now up to #6 with both 247 and Rivals. Iowa is the one school from the West who broke up the East dominance of the top 7 spots.
Iowa and Purdue from West both ahead of Rutgers and Maryland with Rivals.
247 has a transfer team ranking and then also a combined ranking that includes both transfers and high school commits.
I like the rivals forum format much more, but their recruiting database and ranking system is garbage. It’s archaic asf
alabama best wr is a transfer from ohio state who could not get on the field at osu
And you know about as much as anyone else, ace. Unless you're out recruiting for a D1 school and bringing in top talent, you don't know much about it either.
Someone as knowledgeable about recruiting as you would know that the Iowa class you are jerking off to, is ranked lower than the last 5 Nebraska recruiting classes.
It's like trying to find another way to describe a pig. Facts are facts, you can't hide from them.
Are there variables with the portal? Certainly. There are also losses in the portal, it isn't all gains.
The number is what it is compared to other schools using the same data. It's like saying that F on a report isn't really an F, there is a lot.more to it..
The Portal for guys at FCS or G5 schools is the "second chance" or "I told you so" thing.
It is great and it is about time. If I was a HC right now I would not totally drop HS recruiting but it would no longer be the most important part of recruiting for me and my staff.
The hardest part of college, for pretty much everyone a regular student, academic scholly or athletic scholly, is the adjustment. You go from asking to use the restroom or asking to go to your locker in May...to having the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want. You go from being with your good friends everyday to basically knowing no one. You go from teachers that joke with you in the hallway to profs that will never know your name.
I would rather grab a kid that has been through that for a year or two.
It is great and it is about time. If I was a HC right now I would not totally drop HS recruiting but it would no longer be the most important part of recruiting for me and my staff.
The hardest part of college, for pretty much everyone a regular student, academic scholly or athletic scholly, is the adjustment. You go from asking to use the restroom or asking to go to your locker in May...to having the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want. You go from being with your good friends everyday to basically knowing no one. You go from teachers that joke with you in the hallway to profs that will never know your name.
I would rather grab a kid that has been through that for a year or two.
Especially when all those studs in their last 5 classes have pretty much all transferred out
poor Husker fans.
Especially when all those studs in their last 5 classes have pretty much all transferred out
Yet here you losers are obsessing as usual. Poor little brother just wants some attention.
Can tell you don't know much about anything. Here ya go turkey brain.
YOU WILL NEED TO BE CAPABLE OF CLICKING BELOW AND COUNTING TO 2. TAKE YOUR TIME.
Again, in case this was too difficult, 0 5* and 2 in-state 4*. You may go now.