Buddy, I'm just gonna put it this way. I saw him play as a Senior in HS in Oct 2019 when I went down there with my ex GF to visit her brother, her brother after we got down there asked if I wanted to go see my boy since he knew I was from Nebraska and knew that he was coming here and we went to the game. The other caveot, I've been to a couple of closed practices this year with my uncle who is one of the big boosters of the program. Go back and look at all of my posts on Smothers.
Logan Smothers
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When the guy above you on the depth chart continues to make high school sophomore mistakes that cost you games, the number 2 guy on the depth chart absolutely deserves to at least get a series. I don't doubt that Adrian is more likely to take it 70 with his feet or maybe has a stronger arm. I've just seen too much stupid and too much inability to find or hit wide open receivers to think that nobody else could win a game for us. JMO
IF in fact a redshirt is still in play I guess I would agree with that and maybe that's why we haven't seen Smothers. It could be Logan's decision to not waste his RS year.
I addition to the blinking speed, running speed, passing ability and all that, the few times I've seen Smothers play I perceive the team had a spark and he seems to be comfortable back there and deliberate in what he does. 2AM doesn't always seem comfortable pre-snap and is rarely what I'd call deliberate.
I just don't get the fire in the belly attitude conveyed to me by Adrian. Maybe he has it, but it sure as hell doesn't show. I'm sure if we were winning I would be just fine by the way he comes off.
Click on his username and will take you to his info and you can find a list of his recent posts. Then from there you can scroll through several years of his posts to find the ones about Smothers. They should be fairly easy to find.
I figured out the search function. Wyldcard has been very consistent in his praise of LS, that's for sure. If he's right we should be in good hands after AM is done. Time will tell.
Yep, and maybe the kid is a winner. We mock Taylor Martinez a lot, but when he was healthy, he was a winner, We started to dog on him more when his biggest weapon was taken away (his legs) which opened up his throwing. Yes, he wasn't mechanically sound, but that SOB won games when he was healthy and even some when he wasn't. 2AM can't say that.
Is the 4 games rule not a thing any more? How many games has he played in so far? 2?
Yep, good call. He is at his 4 games. At this point, I'd still make it his show. It will tell him that he may need to transfer, or he comes out and tears it up and is now the guy coming into next year and makes it a little easier in planning what QB to get out of the Portal and possibly push 2AM to KSU or wherever he goes.
Verduzco always mentioned he was having to tweak with his throwing motion and get that cleaned up. I call BS on this. The kid got Power 5 offers with an F'ed up motion? I heard Tom Kropp say one time that he figured out early in his coaching career not to mess with kids shot when he got them to Kearney. He figured if they were good enough to get recruited by him why the hell would he try to mess them up? Resonates a lot in this argument. If ya liked him in HS and he was your #1 choice, WTF are you changing his mechanics all up for. Let the kid play free and not be worried about where his footwork and elbow, etc are. Not comparing the two, but Patrick Mahomes does a lot of stuff these QB guru's would lose their **** about. Sometimes its about being a competitor and finding ways to win drives and games. BTW, Martinez has terrible mechanics. I think that line was just a way to keep the Smothers vs Martinez talk to a minimum.
Agreed, I don't see the downside to getting some live game evaluation in. At least we'd have a better idea of what we have going into next year.
I'm not sure Smothers is the guy or not and his delivery looks a little funky but I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about when it comes qb play. The fact though that he hasn't had more opportunity given how poor our qb play has been is criminal. There should be packages or drives he should've been involved in all season and when he has played I've liked how he's looked.
I'd love to see him get a large share of reps these last two games but I'm worried the redshirt situation will keep him out of the games. He's much more a qb than McCaffery was, and he is more ready at this point than Haarberg although I like Haarberg's long term outlook.
I'd love to see him get a large share of reps these last two games but I'm worried the redshirt situation will keep him out of the games. He's much more a qb than McCaffery was, and he is more ready at this point than Haarberg although I like Haarberg's long term outlook.
We need to start winning games, saving a redshirt really shouldn’t get in the way of that. Maybe he doesn’t even want to be here for six years anyway.
I find it hard to believe that Smothers wouldn't freaking JUMP at the chance to give up his RS year in order to try and get the inside track to the starting job for next year. As it stands we all assume there's going to be at least one transfer QB and that Smothers has very long odds against him. But if he played well these last two games? That would change the equation slightly. The only way Smothers absolutely does not want to play is if he's already decided to transfer and just wants to save all the eligibility that he can.
And the stupid thing about all of that was that Frost was never benched-- even though he likes to say that he was. I was at that game. In those days, Osborne would put in the 2nd stringer for a series in the 2nd quarter for experience. It was planned. As luck had it, London led a scoring drive while Frost hadn't shown much up to that point. So a couple dillweeds from the student section chanted "Frankie! Frankie!" And that was all it was. If Frost was truly benched in that game, then why did he go right back out there for the rest of the game after the guy who came in for him led a TD drive?
Yeah, unfortunately Logan has played in 4 games, just real short mop up duty, so not sure that really gives him much experience for next year.
I really don't understand the way Frost managed this, among other things.
I really don't understand the way Frost managed this, among other things.
This. Our 4 year starter QB has ****** mechanics. For him, those ****** mechanics result in wild inaccuracy on anything down field.
If "poor mechanics" is a reason for bench time, we should have been into that portal 2 seasons ago.
Tim Tebow had poor mechanics. Scott Frost had poor mechanics. Taylor Martinez had poor mechanics. Those guys did OK.
Already kind of mentioned, but the focus has to be on development. Coaches get paid a lot to develop their players into serviceable contributors on the field. This to me is where we’ve fallen far short, and a big part of why 4 assistants are gone.
The nature of the college game will not always allow 4 years of development for 22 positions across the board.
Recruit talent and coach them to be ready to play within 2 years.
If you can’t do that, then maybe you’re not doing something right.
The nature of the college game will not always allow 4 years of development for 22 positions across the board.
Recruit talent and coach them to be ready to play within 2 years.
If you can’t do that, then maybe you’re not doing something right.
I think I’ve heard of a Logan Smothers that plays for Nebraska. He’s like the Loch Ness Monster - Logan could be something fantastic but nobody has really seen him.
I doubt we’ll ever meet this Logan Smothers. Martinez would have to throw 9 pick 6’s in the first half, have two broken legs, an amputated right arm and magically go blind before anybody else sees the field at QB.
I call dibs on the name Loch Ness Logan
If smothers ends up being a very good quarterback, how pissed are people that he was not given a chance sooner?
You know I remember you saying this a while back but I also hear from other people that go to practices that he is not the answer. So I'm not sure what to think, but I did like what he did when he got playing time earlier this year. I will say that I did not see any T-Mart speed when he ran the ball though. Adrian looks much more explosive running the ball but maybe there was a reason for that.
Agree after his 3 int against Purdue I believe, he came off the field sat on the bench took off his helmet and the look on his face was I don’t give a crap
Many of these comments favoring smothers indicate that frost either won’t play the player that gives us the better chance to win or worse, that he isn’t capable of recognizing who the better player is and this at the most important position on the field
again, if this is true I don’t know how you bring frost back
again, if this is true I don’t know how you bring frost back
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There are posters on this board who have said the exact opposite about smothers as well. Not sure how comments on this board make him the better player…
I would love to see him in the game so we can see what he brings to the table (more than just spot duty). If he is all that, we’ll see it. If not, we’ll see that as well. But until we do, the backup QB will always be the better player.
I'm just going off when he played. Not a large sample size, but he did not have the burst that Adrian has. Are you talking 40 times without pads?