Offense sounds like it's gonna be different

antirowboat

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We abandoned the Chip offense a while ago. We've been showcasing power and option in the run.
They don't run the offense through the RB, OL and Te yet though. That is their problem. They can't score in the redzone. You have success in the redzone when you can run your normal offense in tight spaces wen the field shrinks.
 
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I'd like to use dr.toms offense more, and then frost could add onto it, his ideas of passing over time..
if you look at it gill aired it out more than frazier...so you can adjust to who you have...but still have a base offense



Nope, Gill didn't air it out more than Frazier, he was just more accurate

Frazier played in 35 games, threw it 469 times and hit on 50% of his throws
From his soph year on, Gill played in 35 games and threw it 428 times and hit on 54%

In fact, compared to Gill, Frazier had more completions, attempts, yards, TD and the same number of interceptions.
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SchoolConfClassPosGCmpAttPctYdsY/AAY/ATDIntRate
1992NebraskaBig 8QB94410044.07277.38.8101136.1
1993NebraskaBig 8QB117716247.511597.27.5124127.1
1994NebraskaBig 8QB4194443.22736.26.042116.2
1995NebraskaBig 8QB119216356.413628.49.3174156.1
CareerNebraska23246949.535217.





1980NebraskaBig 8QB11010.000.00.0000.0
1981NebraskaBig 8QB11479151.66196.86.894132.6
1982NebraskaBig 8QB129016654.211827.17.6113132.3
1983NebraskaBig 8QB129417055.315168.99.5144152.7
CareerNebraska23142854.033177.88.23411 140.1

 

antirowboat

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Also

Purdue 54 passes in win vs Michigan St

Purdue 40 passes in win vs Iowa

Purdue 32 passes in loss vs Wisconsin

Wisconsin 5/8 passing in win vs Purdue

My point is there's multiple ways to win in the big 10 you just can't be ****** on the offensive line and turn the ball over multiple times..
When was the last time Purdue won a conference championship and how many in the last 40 years? Get the point yet?
 

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ok he was more accurate then....he seemed to connect with fryer for big plays more then frazier with mohamid, or miles, I forget

I think the main problem is alot of husker fans are probably newer and turn on the tv and go, hey, look at tom brady, lets do that!

but they don't understand what built NU football, be it the franklins, the craigs, roziers, the macovica, the dubois, the lp's etc..
they just look at guys named martinez and a love cloud of pass happy clouds their world.
sure we are losing games right and left, but BOMBS AWAY!

they can't comprehend running the ball, moving chains, clock control, 4th quarter..these are all strange foreign concepts to the new nebraska fan...
 
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barney44

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Different skill set requirements for a different type of offenses. There isn't a single QB on this roster that can run an effective Oregon/UCF offense. Hell, most QB's in college football wouldn't be good at it. It's a retarded offense since it requires an elite QB to be any good from endzone to endzone.

The smartest head coaches in college football don't require the offense to go through the QB. They let the QB manage the game, which is the opposite of what Frost tries to do.
This offense isn't unique and it isn't new. It's used by college and high school teams all over the country. Why exactly do we require some unicorn quarterback but no one else does? Martinez would be just fine if he didn't make stupid decisions and he had some better line play. He's got plenty of talent for sure. Unfortunately he's got a cylinder misfire between the ears though.

Check out the last 10 years and the teams who won national titles. I can think of like 7 or 8 who are or have played in the NFL. Yeah, even the most talented teams need elite quarterbacks.

You'll never hear me saying I want a game manager, you win with elite quarterbacks.
 

antirowboat

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This offense isn't unique and it isn't new. It's used by college and high school teams all over the country. Why exactly do we require some unicorn quarterback but no one else does? Martinez would be just fine if he didn't make stupid decisions and he had some better line play. He's got plenty of talent for sure. Unfortunately he's got a cylinder misfire between the ears though.

Check out the last 10 years and the teams who won national titles. I can think of like 7 or 8 who are or have played in the NFL. Yeah, even the most talented teams need elite quarterbacks.

You'll never hear me saying I want a game manager, you win with elite quarterbacks.
You don't need an elite QB to win a conference title or even a national title. Alabama has won a national title with a game manager. Ohio State had a 3rd stringer lead them through the end of the season for a national title and he is no longer playing the sport of football anywhere anymore.

And no college football program that runs this retarded UCF/Oregon stuff has won a national title. And Alabama didn't run the UCF/Oregn offense when the current Ole Miss head coach was their OC.
 
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I read into Trev's comments that Frost needs to be more of the CEO. Get a young whiz kid and let the two of them design it. But on GameDay, back away from playcalling. Focus on game strategy, *** chewings and
After reading the article that just came out, it sounds to me like Trev is the head coach of the football program now.

Not in name or title, but he's the one calling the shots, and Frost is agreeing to them, in order to keep his job.

Depending on who they can get in here, it could work, but it's obvious to me now that Trev is really in charge of what is going on.

Remember after his suggestions, we started playing things 'close'.. That wasn't happening at the very beginning of the year. Hearing Scott talk about his plan moving forward, it's like the big decisions have been taken out of his hands.

Why would Trev hire a new guy, when he's got golden boy to do what he wants and take the fall when and where necessary?

If you have a yes man and scapegoat beneath you, you 'aint firing that guy unless you yourself are out of ideas.
I am beginning to think Trev has sabotaged Frost this whole year to make Frost look bad so he can say he gave Frost every shot and then fire him in 2023. Then Trev can hire his guy and we will appreciate anything that results in bowl games.
 

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This offense isn't unique and it isn't new. It's used by college and high school teams all over the country. Why exactly do we require some unicorn quarterback but no one else does? Martinez would be just fine if he didn't make stupid decisions and he had some better line play. He's got plenty of talent for sure. Unfortunately he's got a cylinder misfire between the ears though.

Check out the last 10 years and the teams who won national titles. I can think of like 7 or 8 who are or have played in the NFL. Yeah, even the most talented teams need elite quarterbacks.

You'll never hear me saying I want a game manager, you win with elite quarterbacks.
You can win with QBs without elite physical talents as long as they're an accurate passer who makes good decisions. You don't have to be an elite athlete to play QB in and option offense either. It helps, but Brook Berringer was far from an elite athlete and he did just fine. QBs who have it all, accuracy, good decision making, speed, are extremely rare. Frost needs to prioritize QB skills over athleticism IMO going forward.
 

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I am beginning to think Trev has sabotaged Frost this whole year to make Frost look bad so he can say he gave Frost every shot and then fire him in 2023. Then Trev can hire his guy and we will appreciate anything that results in bowl games.
? No, he’s been trying to help. The prior AD didn’t do anything, so Scott was doing it all. SF isn’t being sabotaged, but he is being held accountable and he’s getting some help.
 
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? No, he’s been trying to help. The prior AD didn’t do anything, so Scott was doing it all. SF isn’t being sabotaged, but he is being held accountable and he’s getting some help.
SF looks miserable. Has all year. I think TA has SF walking on pins and needles. Questioning all his decisions.
 

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You don't need an elite QB to win a conference title or even a national title. Alabama has won a national title with a game manager. Ohio State had a 3rd stringer lead them through the end of the season for a national title and he is no longer playing the sport of football anywhere anymore.

And no college football program that runs this retarded UCF/Oregon stuff has won a national title. And Alabama didn't run the UCF/Oregn offense when the current Ole Miss head coach was their OC.
When Nebraska is at the Same level across the field from skill position players to oline with the likes of Alabama then yes maybe a game manager will work at Nebraska. You are not comparing apples to apples to make what ever point you are trying to make.
 

antirowboat

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When Nebraska is at the Same level across the field from skill position players to oline with the likes of Alabama then yes maybe a game manager will work at Nebraska. You are not comparing apples to apples to make what ever point you are trying to make.
Nebraska will never win a conference title again because of who the QB is. Nebraska will win a conference title when people turn their brain cells on and realize the offense needs to go through the OL, TE, and RB.
 

barney44

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You can win with QBs without elite physical talents as long as they're an accurate passer who makes good decisions. You don't have to be an elite athlete to play QB in and option offense either. It helps, but Brook Berringer was far from an elite athlete and he did just fine. QBs who have it all, accuracy, good decision making, speed, are extremely rare. Frost needs to prioritize QB skills over athleticism IMO going forward.
That Nebraska team isn't the greatest example of the norm. Some teams are just that good. We had Matt Turman doing just fine in that offense. Pre and post run with Matt Turman and it's probably not as pretty.

We could certainly win some games with a game manager but a game changer takes you to the next level. Oregon did a very good job at being competitive with QB'S who weren't what I'd call elite but they were very good college quarterbacks who made plays. I don't know if I'd call them game managers though. I'd rather see the best possible man on the field at a position that handles almost all the snaps.
 

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Aside from the obvious candidate that is Helfrich, I think it'd be wise to snag someone like Korn from Coastal. Imagine how he could bring some ideas from their full house spread to Frosts Oregon spread. At least for red zone anyway. Similar to K State too having both FB and rb back there with the QB. Lots of different things you can do with that when the field shrinks and is less "spread" out.
 

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We abandoned the Chip offense a while ago. We've been showcasing power and option in the run.
From 2007-2012, Oregon finished in the top 10 in the nation in rushing yards per game every year.

The Oregon offense was built on 4 run plays, inside zone, outside zone, counter and draw. It involved double team blocks and getting the linemen to the second level. Seems like the more you try to add, the less effective the execution and results become.

Take Leach’s air raid system, it’s many basic plays ran out of multiple formations. Osborne had the same philosophy of using basic plays and blocking schemes, executing them to perfect and using formations to get advantages in numbers.