Opponent holding non-calls

vs540husker

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Look for this multi-year trend to continue in a big way Saturday. I saw Michigan o-lineman literally tackle Wisconsin defenders to the ground multiple times last Saturday with no flags. The big woke conference will do everything in its power to protect its top ten ranked darling.

Nebraska on the other hand, will be called no fewer than 6 times for holding, whether it happened or not, and most likely on a TD, so the TD can be called back.
 

timnsun

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I don’t remember seeing many holding calls either way all season… how many holding calls has Nebraska had? If I had to guess, I would say 3 or 4… but I could be wrong.

It just doesn’t get called much anymore.
 

schuele

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Wisconsin's defenders should be able to deal with getting tackled. It must happen every day in practice.
 

Boiler_B

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Look for this multi-year trend to continue in a big way Saturday. I saw Michigan o-lineman literally tackle Wisconsin defenders to the ground multiple times last Saturday with no flags. The big woke conference will do everything in its power to protect its top ten ranked darling.

Nebraska on the other hand, will be called no fewer than 6 times for holding, whether it happened or not, and most likely on a TD, so the TD can be called back.

I don't know if we will get called for 6, but I would look for some key holding calls to go against us (or other ticky tack calls if it's a close game and it takes off a score, or takes away a first down etc. To keep Mich on the undefeated train.

Last thing the b10 wants is a 3L Neb team Gumming up the works of the undefeated teams this yr..
 

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I don’t remember seeing many holding calls either way all season… how many holding calls has Nebraska had? If I had to guess, I would say 3 or 4… but I could be wrong.

It just doesn’t get called much anymore.
I’ve noticed this across college football as well.
 
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If offensive holding can be called on every play, as they say, shouldn’t each team end with an equal number of holding penalties?? Otherwise there’s a bias right?? Think about it.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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If offensive holding can be called on every play, as they say, shouldn’t each team end with an equal number of holding penalties?? Otherwise there’s a bias right?? Think about it.
Just like every play is reviewable. How many do the booth give us?? Always too busy eating chicken wings
 

ivan brunetti

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Look for this multi-year trend to continue in a big way Saturday. I saw Michigan o-lineman literally tackle Wisconsin defenders to the ground multiple times last Saturday with no flags. The big woke conference will do everything in its power to protect its top ten ranked darling.

Nebraska on the other hand, will be called no fewer than 6 times for holding, whether it happened or not, and most likely on a TD, so the TD can be called back.

Come on. Refs miss holding calls for ALL teams. Only the Homer of Homers would believe that the refs conspire to job one team or another by failing to make calls.

 

rrthusker

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Well, Big Ten refs and officials have the combined IQ of a donkey so good luck.
 

vs540husker

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Come on. Refs miss holding calls for ALL teams. Only the Homer of Homers would believe that the refs conspire to job one team or another by failing to make calls.

You do realize we aren’t talking about the refs missing some holding calls? The referees quite literally never call holding against Nebraska’s big ten opponents. Not, “some”, or “a few”, literally not a single holding call, for years!!!

2018 Nebraska vs Minnesota was the first time since 2016, that holding was called on a Nebraska opponent in Big Ten play. That has continued and a holding call has not been called against an opponent since then, but you act like the referees just happen to be missing it, the same referees that openly celebrate Wisconsin touchdowns against Nebraska on national television???? Sure, no bias at all...
 

Boiler_B

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If offensive holding can be called on every play, as they say, shouldn’t each team end with an equal number of holding penalties?? Otherwise there’s a bias right?? Think about it.

Well it's not even that as much. It's "when" a holding call is made, like when it takes away a score, or makes a team punt who otherwise had a first down. How often have u seen just NU where we have more penalties, and the game is out of reach, (partly due to some of those penalties of ours) then the refs start calling holding on the other team..when the game is already over, but in the box score the next day...it looks like the penalties were pretty even..but..ya know they were not in the key situations of the game..

We seem to get a lot of penalties against the other teams only after the games are outta reach..lol

Or maybe it just sees that way..
 
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ivan brunetti

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You do realize we aren’t talking about the refs missing some holding calls? The referees quite literally never call holding against Nebraska’s big ten opponents. Not, “some”, or “a few”, literally not a single holding call, for years!!!

2018 Nebraska vs Minnesota was the first time since 2016, that holding was called on a Nebraska opponent in Big Ten play. That has continued and a holding call has not been called against an opponent since then, but you act like the referees just happen to be missing it, the same referees that openly celebrate Wisconsin touchdowns against Nebraska on national television???? Sure, no bias at all...

Yeah, I know what you are claiming. You are in Penn State conspiracy territory.
 

vs540husker

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Yeah, I know what you are claiming. You are in Penn State conspiracy territory.

Facts aren’t a conspiracy though. It is a literal fact, Nebraska’s Big Ten opponents never get called for holding. This isn’t some crazy **** Nebraska fans have made up.
 

huskernorm

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Actually this isn't a conspiracy....

From 2016-2018 Nebraska went 21 straight league games without an opponent being called for holding.

In 2020 Nebraska went 574 snaps without a holding penalty and it wasn't until our sixth game.... Against Purdue, that a holding call was called against our opponent.

Seems very ..... strange.
 

Kato

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Northwestern was holding non stop, didn't help, but didn't get called either.
 
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Every conference complains about their refs. It is a universal bitching point.
Sorry. As soon as it was announced the Neb was B1G bound I tried to warn everone. You think the Big 12 refs are bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. I lived Columbus Ohio at the time and had to suffer tOSU and watching B1G football. These refes are the worst in the nation and prove it every week.
 
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Actually this isn't a conspiracy....

From 2016-2018 Nebraska went 21 straight league games without an opponent being called for holding.

In 2020 Nebraska went 574 snaps without a holding penalty and it wasn't until our sixth game.... Against Purdue, that a holding call was called against our opponent.

Seems very ..... strange.
I would like to see Trev or someone in the Media just mention these Facts publicly, he doesn't need to say the BIG is biased, just state the facts as unusual and leave it at that.

We all know this can't happen unless there is systemic Bias within the BIG, it's practically impossible, other than Nebraska, has this ever happened to any other school in the History of College Football or the NFL?
 

dinglefritz

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The officiating in BOTH college and the NFL has been brutal to watch this year. I don't know if having fans in the stands this year is messing with their heads or whether the COVID vaccine caused permanent brain damage:rolleyes: but the refs have just plain been bad....
 

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I would like to see Trev or someone in the Media just mention these Facts publicly, he doesn't need to say the BIG is biased, just state the facts as unusual and leave it at that.

We all know this can't happen unless there is systemic Bias within the BIG, it's practically impossible, other than Nebraska, has this ever happened to any other school in the History of College Football or the NFL?

I think this is a bad idea. That was basically the approach Moos and Frost tried and it backfired big time. Trev seems to be a much smoother operator in public.
 

oldjar07

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Look for this multi-year trend to continue in a big way Saturday. I saw Michigan o-lineman literally tackle Wisconsin defenders to the ground multiple times last Saturday with no flags. The big woke conference will do everything in its power to protect its top ten ranked darling.

Nebraska on the other hand, will be called no fewer than 6 times for holding, whether it happened or not, and most likely on a TD, so the TD can be called back.
It happens because until this year, our DL has put very little pressure on opposing OL's. There's no reason to hold if the other team isn't getting pressure or beating you to a spot.
 

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It happens because until this year, our DL has put very little pressure on opposing OL's. There's no reason to hold if the other team isn't getting pressure or beating you to a spot.

So completely false. You’ve seen many pictures and videos proving otherwise. Big officials absolutely suck
 

artguy68

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Nebraska now has a national reputation for whining. Threads like this do not help change that perception.
 
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It happens because until this year, our DL has put very little pressure on opposing OL's. There's no reason to hold if the other team isn't getting pressure or beating you to a spot.
I mostly agree with this, I think all this husker defense is missing in order to be considered truly great is an elite pass rusher.
 
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Nebraska now has a national reputation for whining. Threads like this do not help change that perception.
This is exactly the right place for threads like this and I don’t think Nebraska has that rep on a national level, definitely among trolls in the bigten it’s a talking point.
 

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Look for this multi-year trend to continue in a big way Saturday. I saw Michigan o-lineman literally tackle Wisconsin defenders to the ground multiple times last Saturday with no flags. The big woke conference will do everything in its power to protect its top ten ranked darling.

Nebraska on the other hand, will be called no fewer than 6 times for holding, whether it happened or not, and most likely on a TD, so the TD can be called back.
Is ET coming back?
 
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The Statistics are even worse now, so it's practically Impossible for the Non Holding Calls to happen without systematic Bias.


"How unlikely is zero holds and 450 defensive plays? For the sake of argument, I’m going to make an assumption that holds are equally likely to be called on any play (as the saying goes “you can call holding on every play” so there’s a kernel of truth to this assumption).

Thus, the probability that holding is not called is (1-holding%) on any single play. The probability of no holdings on back to back plays is found by taking (1-holding%)*(1-holding%). Do this operation 448 more times and we find the probability of no holdings on 450 plays – 0.77%."
 

artguy68

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This is exactly the right place for threads like this and I don’t think Nebraska has that rep on a national level, definitely among trolls in the bigten it’s a talking point.
I live in Michigan. Trust me, the view is not just among trolls. They point at Frost's complaining about the other team clapping, our antics about playing last season and then opting out of a bowl, and then trying to get out of the Oklahoma game. This is when Nebraska is in national news, and people are laughing.
 

dochay

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It happens because until this year, our DL has put very little pressure on opposing OL's. There's no reason to hold if the other team isn't getting pressure or beating you to a spot.
Maybe they are not getting pressure because they are being held? A lot of those guys that weren't being held the past few years are now playing big boy football, you would think they were good enough to gets some pressure once in awhile. Nebraska is held a lot, anyone with eyes can see that. Are they held more than other teams? Dunno, but I know other teams get less called than NU.
 

dochay

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Yeah, I know what you are claiming. You are in Penn State conspiracy territo

Yeah, I know what you are claiming. You are in Penn State conspiracy territory.
Only thing more certain than Iowa fan claiming they don't get away with holding is Iowa getting away with holding.

Iowa fan logic - we don't get away with holding cause you aren't good enough to have hold.

Is shown blatant holds.

Iowa fan - You can literally call holding on every down.

Is shown that statistics say Iowa is not called for holding while Nebraska is.

Iowa fan - You are whiners and we have the best tight ends in he NFL.
 

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Maybe they are not getting pressure because they are being held? A lot of those guys that weren't being held the past few years are now playing big boy football, you would think they were good enough to gets some pressure once in awhile. Nebraska is held a lot, anyone with eyes can see that. Are they held more than other teams? Dunno, but I know other teams get less called than NU.

These are on consecutive plays and are very obvious.


However, I don’t have any issue with them not being called, as they weren’t later called on us. That is when it is a problem, when the game is officiated differently for the two teams, like last year’s Iowa game.
 
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These are on consecutive plays and are very obvious.


However, I don’t have any issue with them not being called, as they weren’t later called on us. That is when it is a problem, when the game is officiated differently for the two teams, like last year’s Iowa game.

This is just disgusting Bias by BIG officials on video.
 

oldjar07

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Maybe they are not getting pressure because they are being held? A lot of those guys that weren't being held the past few years are now playing big boy football, you would think they were good enough to gets some pressure once in awhile. Nebraska is held a lot, anyone with eyes can see that. Are they held more than other teams? Dunno, but I know other teams get less called than NU.
No, they weren't getting pressure because they were playing patty cake with the OL. The refs are never going to call that.