Is Nebraska the worst program in the B1G?

huskerbaseball13

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I mean we have the worst coach…that’s for certain. It’s not close to the worst job though.

That may change the longer Frost is around. At this point, even with a large buyout Nebraska can’t afford to not fire him. I saw offer him half his buyout and a years worth of Jameson. He would accept on the spot.
 
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I mean we have the worst coach…that’s for certain. It’s not close to the worst job though.

That may change the longer Frost is around. At this point, even with a large buyout Nebraska can’t afford to not fire him. I saw offer him half his buyout and a years worth of Jameson. He would accept on the spot.
No it isn't the worst job and with the new facilities it will be even better. But we are headed to our fifth straight losing season and we just lost to one of the three bottom feeders in the conference. We were lucky to beat Rutgers last year. In my view Illinois, Purude, Maryland, and Rutgers all have better programs than we do. And by "program" I mean quality coaches who have a system in place that they know how to coach and implement, even if they have lesser talent.
 

otismotis08

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Perhaps. And that's bad enough.
Maybe I'm over-reacting here, but I don't think so. It is time to move on. The sooner the better.
Never thought I'd be saying that after simply losing a football game to Illinois. But my eyeballs hurt. That was another helping of the same hot mess.
 

Redscarlet

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We don’t have the worse players, but apparently we have the worst assistant coaches who the head coach hired..
 

huskerbaseball13

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No it isn't the worst job and with the new facilities it will be even better. But we are headed to our fifth straight losing season and we just lost to one of the three bottom feeders in the conference. We were lucky to beat Rutgers last year. In my view Illinois, Purude, Maryland, and Rutgers all have better programs than we do. And by "program" I mean quality coaches who have a system in place that they know how to coach and implement, even if they have lesser talent.

If you are defining the program with just the above then yes…we have the worst program. Probably by a landslide. There is no identity, no hope, and no future with this staff.

It could have possibly worked out had they worked hard and put in the time. Frost let the fame get to his head, sure he will have made a **** ton of money but it’s also going to cost him a lot on and off the field.
 

Sinomatic

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I mean what, outside of the defense, has improved?

Was it only 6 penalties yesterday? I mean if that keeps up then that would be an improvement. Didn't Nebraska avg 10 a game under Riley?
 

BoilerN

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Whomever wins the slap-fight between N and purdodoo will take that crown.

But, even if they beat purdodoo, yes.

Much more egregious mismanagement of resources.
Purdue returns the 2nd most all big ten players in the west behind Iowa.
 

redwine65

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definitely worse coached, I think we have some decent players
but your only as strong as your weakest link..
 

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No, not the worst program in the league. IMO.
I still believe Nebraska can return to prominence quickly, once the right coach is hired. Similar to the way Oklahoma rebounded under Stoops. Just have to find the right coach.
 

BHoppy

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Let the season play out. After the 1st quarter I thought there is no way you would not win this game. Your defensive was playing great and thought IL would have a hard time scoring on you.

Then your defense was out there for 30 minutes compared to IL out there for 15 minutes for 3 quarters. In that heat, it showed they got tired and drained.

For some reason, cannot explain it, I think you were the better team just same old mistakes cost you.

Lets see if it continues. Next two games should help the player get some confidence back and hope Frost can keep them together.
 

HuskerInFlorida

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When you consider all the assets the Nebraska football program has (facilities, fan support, revenue, university support, tradition, etc.) and compare that with current performance, yes, they are the worst performing team in the BIG 10.
 

phoenix4nu

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We’re very lucky to have gotten into the B1G when we did. There’s no way we would be invited now, even if we were a gold star member of the AAU.
 

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Let the season play out. After the 1st quarter I thought there is no way you would not win this game. Your defensive was playing great and thought IL would have a hard time scoring on you.

Then your defense was out there for 30 minutes compared to IL out there for 15 minutes for 3 quarters. In that heat, it showed they got tired and drained.

For some reason, cannot explain it, I think you were the better team just same old mistakes cost you.

Lets see if it continues. Next two games should help the player get some confidence back and hope Frost can keep them together.
This is what most of our games are like dude. Frost is like 5-12 in one possession games. That's over half the games in the last 4 years. These mistakes are beyond a trend, they are the identity and are why Frost is done. The Fordham game will be more worthless than last years Rutgers game or the Maryland game before that. We are clearly a talented team, we are clearly capable of winning games. The fact that we win less than 40% of games in frosts tenure means only one thing
 

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You'd have a hard time arguing that any program gets less out of their talent level unless Michigan and Penn State can somehow maintain the level of disaster they produced recently.
 
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NO. Fan Support, money, and facilities are top notch. However, Nebraska is a state that can't produce it's own talent and lacks diversity. It also doesn't border any states with great high school football.

Just have become a fan base that talks too much about the past. A tradition program. Kind of like Minnesota and their stretch in the 40s and 50s, but not that bad unless this goes on for another two decades. It's the same with Michigan, Penn State, and ND. (Although they make the playoffs, really haven't won a big bowl game since the 80s). When you have not won jack **** in 30 years you become a program in which fans that constantly talk about the past history and glory. No one is worse than Michigan. They dominated the horse and buggy era.

Tradition is important part of college football, especially for the fans. But Saban and programs like Ohio State don't let their squads rest on the laurels of the prior years team. Forget about last year, much less than 30 years ago. College football is all about what have you done for me lately. Even Ed O at LSU can't hype up the national title he won a couple years ago forever. Win or leave.
 

Mack In Motion

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This is what most of our games are like dude. Frost is like 5-12 in one possession games. That's over half the games in the last 4 years. These mistakes are beyond a trend, they are the identity and are why Frost is done. The Fordham game will be more worthless than last years Rutgers game or the Maryland game before that. We are clearly a talented team, we are clearly capable of winning games. The fact that we win less than 40% of games in frosts tenure means only one thing
That's an outcome of lackadaisical preparation and w "no fear of failure'" philosophy. Both of which lead to things like fielding punts inside the 5 or lighting up the opposing QB late, negating an INT (2 hugely pivotal points on Saturday).
 
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We don’t have the worse players, but apparently we have the worst assistant coaches who the head coach hired..
I've been called a hater here a lot for criticizing this staff. But Frost is a 1 year wonder and this staff is an average Sun Belt staff at best. Frost is not a good HC, not even average HC.

I was an adamant Frost supporter in 2017 and find this depressing wow wrong everything turned out wrong.

Tuco was right and I was wrong, Frost is no better than Tulsa's HC.
 

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No, not the worst program in the league. IMO.
I still believe Nebraska can return to prominence quickly, once the right coach is hired. Similar to the way Oklahoma rebounded under Stoops. Just have to find the right coach.

Absolutely true. We are currently a disaster, but can and will turn around quickly with competent coaching.
 

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That's an outcome of lackadaisical preparation and w "no fear of failure'" philosophy. Both of which lead to things like fielding punts inside the 5 or lighting up the opposing QB late, negating an INT (2 hugely pivotal points on Saturday).

Our discipline and attention to detail is pathetic. However, that hit was not late, that was an absolute joke of a call.
 

Goosee

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NO. Fan Support, money, and facilities are top notch. However, Nebraska is a state that can't produce it's own talent and lacks diversity. It also doesn't border any states with great high school football.

Just have become a fan base that talks too much about the past. A tradition program. Kind of like Minnesota and their stretch in the 40s and 50s, but not that bad unless this goes on for another two decades. It's the same with Michigan, Penn State, and ND. (Although they make the playoffs, really haven't won a big bowl game since the 80s). When you have not won jack **** in 30 years you become a program in which fans that constantly talk about the past history and glory. No one is worse than Michigan. They dominated the horse and buggy era.

Tradition is important part of college football, especially for the fans. But Saban and programs like Ohio State don't let their squads rest on the laurels of the prior years team. Forget about last year, much less than 30 years ago. College football is all about what have you done for me lately. Even Ed O at LSU can't hype up the national title he won a couple years ago forever. Win or leave.
Hmmmm, I would love to be Iowa for the last few years. At least they have some direction and hope. We are the idiots out wandering around. I know that is a darn hard thing to hear but my goodness when do we look at our own arrogance and realize that it holds us back? I have lurked here for years and it drives me nuts. Cocky people always get put in their place at some point. Tom wasn’t, Frank wasn’t, heck even Riley wasn’t. Ferenz gets that way sometimes when it’s warranted but he obviously knows what he is doing. Here? Not so much
 

HominidHusker

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Absolutely true. We are currently a disaster, but can and will turn around quickly with competent coaching.
“can” yes, “will”???

I certainly hope so. The next hire is beyond important, and it will depend which players stick it out and how the next staff can recruit.
 

HominidHusker

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Our discipline and attention to detail is pathetic. However, that hit was not late, that was an absolute joke of a call.
Since QBs are allowed to break tackles, defenders should be allowed to tackle to the ground. But it was the taunting call that had me infuriated…. pointing back to the lack of discipline and awareness.
 

egaRdeR

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Probably depends on how you define program. I think of it as facilities, coaches, admin, and players as a whole. Looking at that definition, not even close.

Now just looking at the team? Maybe. But I think that is a slight to some of the players. I think our talent isn't the worst in tbe conference. Debate away on where they fall, but not tbe worst.

Now coaching? Tough to argue anything other than the worst.

Just my 2 cents.
 

SuperBigFan

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Trick question, the Big Ten has a bunch of "worst teams"

Honestly, pretty much everyone besides OSU is **** in this conference.
 

phoenix4nu

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Our discipline and attention to detail is pathetic. However, that hit was not late, that was an absolute joke of a call.
The flag wasn't for a late hit was it? I thought it was for picking the quarterback up and driving him to the ground.
 

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We are akin to Indiana basketball. Proud tradition. Legendary venue. Won some titles a hundred years ago with a HOF coach. Totally irrelevant today.
 

redwine65

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is there anyone on the staff who could replace frost as oc? so frost can focus more on general football fundamentals of the team?
 

BHoppy

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This is what most of our games are like dude. Frost is like 5-12 in one possession games. That's over half the games in the last 4 years. These mistakes are beyond a trend, they are the identity and are why Frost is done. The Fordham game will be more worthless than last years Rutgers game or the Maryland game before that. We are clearly a talented team, we are clearly capable of winning games. The fact that we win less than 40% of games in frosts tenure means only one thing
So is 8-4 or 7-5 going to be considered a good seasoning, moving in the right direction?
 
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Hmmmm, I would love to be Iowa for the last few years. At least they have some direction and hope. We are the idiots out wandering around. I know that is a darn hard thing to hear but my goodness when do we look at our own arrogance and realize that it holds us back? I have lurked here for years and it drives me nuts. Cocky people always get put in their place at some point. Tom wasn’t, Frank wasn’t, heck even Riley wasn’t. Ferenz gets that way sometimes when it’s warranted but he obviously knows what he is doing. Here? Not so much

I am not an Iowa fan, but Ferentz is one of the best coaches in College Football. No he doesn't win the Big Ten often or even annually win 10 games a year, but his teams are always well coached and play tough disciplined football. They also put a lot of lowly rated high school kids into the NFL. (Mostly from the OL/DL)

Iowa doesn't recruit well, but they develop their lineman really well. What separates them from the teams ahead of them is they don't have great skill players. Can't remember the last time they put a WR in the NFL. It's been at least 12 years since they had a great RB. Shonn Greene maybe? Sure they have great TEs, but you don't need to even throw the ball to the TE to win in college football. They throw to the TE so much, it probably hurts their WR recruiting. OSU, Bama, and Clemson rarely use the TE compared to Iowa.

Wisconsin is even ahead of Iowa. These programs don't have top 10 talent, but they know how to develop their talent. I don't see either making the playoffs anytime soon, but under their coaching staffs they are going to be a pain to play on the road.