OT: Will there be another Covid lockdown?

Will there be another lockdown?


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RiLLLLLLLLey

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Ok? So where’s the video of trump saying not to take vaccine?

Oh that’s right you were full of ****. Would you like me to post a video of Kamala saying she wouldn’t take the vaccine? Or how about your personal hero Cuomo?

I think I have your conspiracy hypothesis figured out.. Trump created warp speed to remove red tape & legal liability so companies like Pfizer and Moderna could create a vaccine. He didn’t create warp speed because he thought a vaccine would work, but instead so it would be named after him. This sound about right?
Are you f***cking kidding me? Jesus Christ, he made fun of Biden for wearing a f***ing mask. In a debate, mind you. Orangie McFatpants said he thinks people want to see his face.

I have no idea what kind of f***ed up person would want to see that ogre's face, but I suppose that is neither her nor there. But to say Fatso was a proponent of the vaccine is a joke. And you know it.

It's hardly a coincidence that all of the states lagging in vaccine numbers are red states. And the states with massive spikes in Covid cases are red states. You can attempt to spin the correlation between the two all you want, but methinks you'll only manage to **** out some sort of conspiracy theory.

Related note from today: a woman who works at my girl's medical clinic had to go home early today. Her husband tested positive for Covid and is incredibly sick. Young and also an ardent anti-vaxxer and anti-masker.

Now she gets to take care of their daycare-aged son because hubby cannot. He really made one hell of a statement with that anti-vaccine/anti-mask stance. 👍
 

Big10domination

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Are you f***cking kidding me? Jesus Christ, he made fun of Biden for wearing a f***ing mask. In a debate, mind you. Orangie McFatpants said he thinks people want to see his face.

I have no idea what kind of f***ed up person would want to see that ogre's face, but I suppose that is neither her nor there. But to say Fatso was a proponent of the vaccine is a joke. And you know it.

It's hardly a coincidence that all of the states lagging in vaccine numbers are red states. And the states with massive spikes in Covid cases are red states. You can attempt to spin the correlation between the two all you want, but methinks you'll only manage to **** out some sort of conspiracy theory.

Related note from today: a woman who works at my girl's medical clinic had to go home early today. Her husband tested positive for Covid and is incredibly sick. Young and also an ardent anti-vaxxer and anti-masker.

Now she gets to take care of their daycare-aged son because hubby cannot. He really made one hell of a statement with that anti-vaccine/anti-mask stance. 👍
You seem kind of intense.
 

HuskerO58

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Are you f***cking kidding me? Jesus Christ, he made fun of Biden for wearing a f***ing mask. In a debate, mind you.
Trump literally said masks are okay during that debate. He was making fun of Biden's mask wearing habits.

 

GBRforLife1

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Maybe you guys are right on the hospitals. I mean, these quotes are SCARY!!! Please, read til the end.

"Tallia says his hospital is 'managing, but just barely,' at keeping up with the increased number of sick patients in the last three weeks. The hospital’s urgent-care centers have also been inundated, and its outpatient clinics have no appointments available.”

"Dr. Bernard Camins, associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, says that UAB Hospital cancelled elective surgeries scheduled for Thursday and Friday of last week to make more beds available"

Why is Bernard so concerned if things aren't REALLY bad?

Gees guys, they had to treat people in recovery rooms!

“We had to treat patients in places where we normally wouldn’t, like in recovery rooms,” says Camins. “The emergency room was very crowded, both with sick patients who needed to be admitted”

It's just as bad in Cali.

"In CA… several hospitals have set up large 'surge tents' outside their emergency departments to accommodate and treat … patients. Even then, the LA Times reported this week, emergency departments had standing-room only, and some patients had to be treated in hallways.”

"From Laguna Beach to Long Beach, emergency rooms were struggling to cope with the overwhelming cases… and had gone into 'diversion mode,' during which ambulances are sent to other hospitals.”

“Hospitals across the state are sending away ambulances, flying in nurses from out of state and not letting children visit their loved ones for fear they’ll spread… Others are canceling surgeries and erecting tents in their parking lots to triage the hordes of… patients.”

“We’ve never had so many patients,” said Adrian Cotton, chief of medical operations at Loma Linda University Health in San Bernardino County.”

“...at least one hospital has set up an outdoor triage tent to handle the overflow of people” “In Long Beach, hospitals have started visitor restrictions. In the South Bay, a conference center has been transformed into an ambulatory clinic.”

We all know how bad Missouri is doing. They barely filled Arrowhead for the Garth Brooks concert.

"In Fenton, Missouri, SSM Health St. Clare Hospital has opened its emergency overflow wing, as well as all outpatient centers and surgical holding centers, to make more beds available to patients who need them. Nurses are being “pulled from all floors to care for them, it’s making their pre-existing conditions worse,” she says. “More and more patients are needing mechanical ventilation due to respiratory failure”

"At Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, waiting rooms turned into exam areas as a medical tent was built in order to deal with the surge of patients. A Houston doctor said local hospital beds were at capacity”

“Dr. Anthony Marinelli says they've seen a major spike in… cases. It's so overwhelmed the community hospital that they've gone on bypass at times -- that means they tell ambulances to bypass this ER and find another.”

“There’s a little bit of a feeling of being in the trenches. We’re really battling these infections to try to get them under control,” McKinnell said. “We’re still not sure if this is going to continue.

“Dr. Atallah, the chief of emergency medicine at Grady, says the hospital called on a mobile emergency department based nearly 250 miles away to help tackle the increasing patient demand. "At 500-plus patients a day you physically just need the space to put a patient in. “

“As the main emergency room gets full, patients are moved to the tent. For example, a patient who comes in with a broken arm is likely to be treated inside the tent, he said. Visitor restrictions have also been implemented.” “The county saw a 300-percent increase”


All quotes from the 2018 flu season.

Honestly I don't remember hearing a thing about the 2018 flu season. But we didn't shut sports down and schools stayed open and no one wore a mask. There wasn't any talk of limiting restaurants or bars. Hospitals survived survived just fine.

 

TampaBaySkers

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Are you f***cking kidding me? Jesus Christ, he made fun of Biden for wearing a f***ing mask. In a debate, mind you. Orangie McFatpants said he thinks people want to see his face.

I have no idea what kind of f***ed up person would want to see that ogre's face, but I suppose that is neither her nor there. But to say Fatso was a proponent of the vaccine is a joke. And you know it.

It's hardly a coincidence that all of the states lagging in vaccine numbers are red states. And the states with massive spikes in Covid cases are red states. You can attempt to spin the correlation between the two all you want, but methinks you'll only manage to **** out some sort of conspiracy theory.

Related note from today: a woman who works at my girl's medical clinic had to go home early today. Her husband tested positive for Covid and is incredibly sick. Young and also an ardent anti-vaxxer and anti-masker.

Now she gets to take care of their daycare-aged son because hubby cannot. He really made one hell of a statement with that anti-vaccine/anti-mask stance. 👍
If you ever get tired of living in your mom’s basement you could get a job writing Joe’s teleprompter.. just add a few more Jim Crows and you’d be set.

I’ll ask one more time.. do you have video of Trump telling people not to get the vaccine? You said it, now prove it!

Now onto facts, not emotions..

Top 5 COVID deaths per capita per state/area:

1. NYC
2. New Jersey
3. Massachusetts
4. Rhode Island
5. Mississippi

Wow.. NYC, NJ and Mass turned red? There will be a red wave coming for sure.

As always I post my references:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100k
 

GBRforLife1

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It’s not as simple as open beds. It’s ICU/CCU beds, vents and RT’s to run them, ER beds, nurse shortages. Then add in that they also try to keep capacity for people suffering
heart attacks, strokes, auto accidents and other trauma based medical emergencies.

Need more people vaccinated, comparing the lowest 10 states and the highest 10 in vaccine rates, in the lowest 10 you are seeing 3X the number of cases, 4.3X hospitalizations and 6.5X death rates per capita.
You are ignoring seasonality.

Every single time someone has compared one area to another, cherry picked it or not, they've been wrong.

And I will probably be as well, but they're as valid a comparison as what you've picked.

But you didn't want to be like Sweden. You ridiculed them and people who suggested their approach was better.

 

TampaBaySkers

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Maybe you guys are right on the hospitals. I mean, these quotes are SCARY!!! Please, read til the end.

"Tallia says his hospital is 'managing, but just barely,' at keeping up with the increased number of sick patients in the last three weeks. The hospital’s urgent-care centers have also been inundated, and its outpatient clinics have no appointments available.”

"Dr. Bernard Camins, associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, says that UAB Hospital cancelled elective surgeries scheduled for Thursday and Friday of last week to make more beds available"

Why is Bernard so concerned if things aren't REALLY bad?

Gees guys, they had to treat people in recovery rooms!

“We had to treat patients in places where we normally wouldn’t, like in recovery rooms,” says Camins. “The emergency room was very crowded, both with sick patients who needed to be admitted”

It's just as bad in Cali.

"In CA… several hospitals have set up large 'surge tents' outside their emergency departments to accommodate and treat … patients. Even then, the LA Times reported this week, emergency departments had standing-room only, and some patients had to be treated in hallways.”

"From Laguna Beach to Long Beach, emergency rooms were struggling to cope with the overwhelming cases… and had gone into 'diversion mode,' during which ambulances are sent to other hospitals.”

“Hospitals across the state are sending away ambulances, flying in nurses from out of state and not letting children visit their loved ones for fear they’ll spread… Others are canceling surgeries and erecting tents in their parking lots to triage the hordes of… patients.”

“We’ve never had so many patients,” said Adrian Cotton, chief of medical operations at Loma Linda University Health in San Bernardino County.”

“...at least one hospital has set up an outdoor triage tent to handle the overflow of people” “In Long Beach, hospitals have started visitor restrictions. In the South Bay, a conference center has been transformed into an ambulatory clinic.”

We all know how bad Missouri is doing. They barely filled Arrowhead for the Garth Brooks concert.

"In Fenton, Missouri, SSM Health St. Clare Hospital has opened its emergency overflow wing, as well as all outpatient centers and surgical holding centers, to make more beds available to patients who need them. Nurses are being “pulled from all floors to care for them, it’s making their pre-existing conditions worse,” she says. “More and more patients are needing mechanical ventilation due to respiratory failure”

"At Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, waiting rooms turned into exam areas as a medical tent was built in order to deal with the surge of patients. A Houston doctor said local hospital beds were at capacity”

“Dr. Anthony Marinelli says they've seen a major spike in… cases. It's so overwhelmed the community hospital that they've gone on bypass at times -- that means they tell ambulances to bypass this ER and find another.”

“There’s a little bit of a feeling of being in the trenches. We’re really battling these infections to try to get them under control,” McKinnell said. “We’re still not sure if this is going to continue.

“Dr. Atallah, the chief of emergency medicine at Grady, says the hospital called on a mobile emergency department based nearly 250 miles away to help tackle the increasing patient demand. "At 500-plus patients a day you physically just need the space to put a patient in. “

“As the main emergency room gets full, patients are moved to the tent. For example, a patient who comes in with a broken arm is likely to be treated inside the tent, he said. Visitor restrictions have also been implemented.” “The county saw a 300-percent increase”


All quotes from the 2018 flu season.

Honestly I don't remember hearing a thing about the 2018 flu season. But we didn't shut sports down and schools stayed open and no one wore a mask. There wasn't any talk of limiting restaurants or bars. Hospitals survived survived just fine.

Great info.. thanks for sharing.
 

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I remember seeing that in 2020 the flu was virtually non-existent.

Can't seem to recall the reason why though?
 

GBRforLife1

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I remember seeing that in 2020 the flu was virtually non-existent.

Can't seem to recall the reason why though?

There hasn't been a definitive answer that I've seen.

Likely a combination of the following from what I can tell: viral interference, lower flu testing, more focus on calling everything covid, pcr tests couldn't differentiate between flu and covid.
 

jeans1515

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I’m confused. I was under the impression that the pandemic talk would end after the election. Or that we would reach herd immunity by now. Not shift the narrative to leveraging the pandemic to immigrants or variants or vax efficacy or schools or Florida/Texas/Illinois. Left, Right, Left, Right. **** is exhausting.
Our greatest challenge is not the pandemic(it really is, but for effect I’m saying it’s not), it’s the rhetoric surrounding it. The reactions and conversation based on winning against the other side. It’s humans. Humans and politics. Humanity is the absolute worst.

No...blaming the President for Covid deaths would end.
 

MOHUSKER

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You are ignoring seasonality.

Every single time someone has compared one area to another, cherry picked it or not, they've been wrong.

And I will probably be as well, but they're as valid a comparison as what you've picked.

But you didn't want to be like Sweden. You ridiculed them and people who suggested their approach was better.


I’m not ignoring anything, I live in one of the hardest hit areas of the country. The two local hospitals to me are struggling. Typically 8-19% of patients put in an ICU die, one local hospital community (6 hospitals) saw 51% of their ICU admissions die in July. Local hospitals are transporting patients all over the region to open units. I hope it’s a blip, numbers are getting better here this week, but delta is attacking the young and unvaccinated my area.

If you want Sweden as your benchmark, despite worse numbers than their neighboring countries, I guess you also want their universal government funded healthcare?

Of course their cases are rising now also after removing capacity limits for many venues and hour restrictions for restaurants.

 

GBRforLife1

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I’m not ignoring anything, I live in one of the hardest hit areas of the country. The two local hospitals to me are struggling. Typically 8-19% of patients put in an ICU die, one local hospital community (6 hospitals) saw 51% of their ICU admissions die in July. Local hospitals are transporting patients all over the region to open units. I hope it’s a blip, numbers are getting better here this week, but delta is attacking the young and unvaccinated my area.

If you want Sweden as your benchmark, despite worse numbers than their neighboring countries, I guess you also want their universal government funded healthcare?

Of course their cases are rising now also after removing capacity limits for many venues and hour restrictions for restaurants.

You make a comparison about one area to another with different seasonal timing. That's not an apples to apples comparison. If it's not ignoring seasonality then it's not honest.

So zero deaths isn't a good achievement because of a casedemic? Feel free to provide the how many deaths Swedens neighbors are having.
 

MOHUSKER

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You make a comparison about one area to another with different seasonal timing. That's not an apples to apples comparison. If it's not ignoring seasonality then it's not honest.

So zero deaths isn't a good achievement because of a casedemic? Feel free to provide the how many deaths Swedens neighbors are having.

I didn’t bring up Sweden originally, and I don’t think I compared Missouri to Sweden. What season are you even talking about? Sweden had higher per capita death than their neighboring countries, and when did they post 0 deaths, for a day? Week? Month?

Regardless, the virus impacts localized communities. It’s also now impacting more suburban population centers with low vaccination rates, I’m glad my local spike started in June, hopefully with kids going back to school in a couple of weeks it won’t trend back up again.
 

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Are you f***cking kidding me? Jesus Christ, he made fun of Biden for wearing a f***ing mask. In a debate, mind you. Orangie McFatpants said he thinks people want to see his face.

I have no idea what kind of f***ed up person would want to see that ogre's face, but I suppose that is neither her nor there. But to say Fatso was a proponent of the vaccine is a joke. And you know it.

It's hardly a coincidence that all of the states lagging in vaccine numbers are red states. And the states with massive spikes in Covid cases are red states. You can attempt to spin the correlation between the two all you want, but methinks you'll only manage to **** out some sort of conspiracy theory.

Related note from today: a woman who works at my girl's medical clinic had to go home early today. Her husband tested positive for Covid and is incredibly sick. Young and also an ardent anti-vaxxer and anti-masker.

Now she gets to take care of their daycare-aged son because hubby cannot. He really made one hell of a statement with that anti-vaccine/anti-mask stance. 👍
You might want to go look at some statistics... A lot of the largest unvaccinated areas are large cities around the US which basically don't vote red. Also, Black and Hispanic groups are the lowest vaccinated groups, both of which do not usually vote red. Doesn't matter the administration, both parties have caused the hesitancy and both stepped on their dick pretty heavily. We get it, you don't like Trump, but at least get your facts in order.
 

RiLLLLLLLLey

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If you ever get tired of living in your mom’s basement you could get a job writing Joe’s teleprompter.. just add a few more Jim Crows and you’d be set.

I’ll ask one more time.. do you have video of Trump telling people not to get the vaccine? You said it, now prove it!

Now onto facts, not emotions..

Top 5 COVID deaths per capita per state/area:

1. NYC
2. New Jersey
3. Massachusetts
4. Rhode Island
5. Mississippi

Wow.. NYC, NJ and Mass turned red? There will be a red wave coming for sure.

As always I post my references:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100k
It took me all of 30 seconds to find an example, numbnuts. From his very own, creepy-*** web page:

"He's way behind schedule, and people are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don't trust his Administration, they don't trust the Election results, and they certainly don't trust the Fake News, which is refusing to tell the Truth," the statement added.

 

HuskerO58

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If you want Sweden as your benchmark, despite worse numbers than their neighboring countries, I guess you also want their universal government funded healthcare?
You know where he was going with on using Sweden (no lockdowns & no promoting of masks). Has nothing to do with UHC.
 

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It took me all of 30 seconds to find an example, numbnuts. From his very own, creepy-*** web page:

"He's way behind schedule, and people are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don't trust his Administration, they don't trust the Election results, and they certainly don't trust the Fake News, which is refusing to tell the Truth," the statement added.

That's not telling people to not get the vaccine.

Try this one though:

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday evening told his supporters to get the COVID-19 vaccine, saying it is a safe shot that works.

"I would recommend it and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly," Trump told "Fox News Primetime."


 

MOHUSKER

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You know where he was going with on using Sweden (no lockdowns & no promoting of masks). Has nothing to do with UHC.
Did the US federal government issue restrictions on bar and restaurant hours? Sweden’s did. Did the US federal government enact rules on venue capacities limiting gatherings to 500 people? Sweden”s did.


Sweden will also lower the limit for groups at restaurants to four people per group, and will ban alcohol sales from 8pm, said Löfven.

Schools for over-16s will also continue online classes beyond Christmas, until January 24th. And all non-essential public services run by the state, municipalities and regions will close with immediate effect, and will remain closed until January 24th – this includes for example swimming pools, sports centres and museums, said Löfven.
 

TampaBaySkers

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It took me all of 30 seconds to find an example, numbnuts. From his very own, creepy-*** web page:

"He's way behind schedule, and people are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don't trust his Administration, they don't trust the Election results, and they certainly don't trust the Fake News, which is refusing to tell the Truth," the statement added.


Swing and a miss. You’re out son.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Did the US federal government issue restrictions on bar and restaurant hours? Sweden’s did. Did the US federal government enact rules on venue capacities limiting gatherings to 500 people? Sweden”s did.


Sweden will also lower the limit for groups at restaurants to four people per group, and will ban alcohol sales from 8pm, said Löfven.

Schools for over-16s will also continue online classes beyond Christmas, until January 24th. And all non-essential public services run by the state, municipalities and regions will close with immediate effect, and will remain closed until January 24th – this includes for example swimming pools, sports centres and museums, said Löfven.
Yes, government restricted bars and restaurants.. like you couldn’t go into bars for a few moths.. longer in some states.

Edit: not sure if these were mandated at the federal or state level… or a combo of the two.
 
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steinek11

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I remember seeing that in 2020 the flu was virtually non-existent.

Can't seem to recall the reason why though?
The PCR test cannot distinguish between covid and the flu which I suspected along. CDC is scrapping the current test in November. Bill Gates and Soros came up with something better. No joke. Can't make this s*** up
 

MOHUSKER

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The PCR test cannot distinguish between covid and the flu which I suspected along. CDC is scrapping the current test in November. Bill Gates and Soros came up with something better. No joke. Can't make this s*** up
Yet you and others are making it up. The initial PCR tests for the COVID causing virus only detected that, they now can test for and differentiate the flu via PCR tests.
 

GBRforLife1

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Yet you and others are making it up. The initial PCR tests for the COVID causing virus only detected that, they now can test for and differentiate the flu via PCR tests.
Can you stop with the lies and gaslighting?
 

GBRforLife1

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Did the US federal government issue restrictions on bar and restaurant hours? Sweden’s did. Did the US federal government enact rules on venue capacities limiting gatherings to 500 people? Sweden”s did.


Sweden will also lower the limit for groups at restaurants to four people per group, and will ban alcohol sales from 8pm, said Löfven.

Schools for over-16s will also continue online classes beyond Christmas, until January 24th. And all non-essential public services run by the state, municipalities and regions will close with immediate effect, and will remain closed until January 24th – this includes for example swimming pools, sports centres and museums, said Löfven.
Cherry picking, gaslighting, son of a gun.

"Not all measures will come into force immediately. The ban on post-8pm alcohol sales at bars and restaurants (currently banned after 10pm) and limit on groups to four (currently eight) is to apply from December 24th."
 

GBRforLife1

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I didn’t bring up Sweden originally, and I don’t think I compared Missouri to Sweden. What season are you even talking about? Sweden had higher per capita death than their neighboring countries, and when did they post 0 deaths, for a day? Week? Month?

Regardless, the virus impacts localized communities. It’s also now impacting more suburban population centers with low vaccination rates, I’m glad my local spike started in June, hopefully with kids going back to school in a couple of weeks it won’t trend back up again.
You said "Need more people vaccinated, comparing the lowest 10 states and the highest 10 in vaccine rates, in the lowest 10 you are seeing 3X the number of cases, 4.3X hospitalizations and 6.5X death rates per capita."

That is not only cherry picking, but totally disingenuous. It's akin to saying masks caused cases to go down while ignoring rising cases where people wear masks. Did you do that garbage Kansas study? Kind of smells like something you'd do. I'd say be honest, but we know that won't happen.
 

GBRforLife1

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If you think the mRNA gene therapy that some are calling a vaccine is good for you, get it. Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work as promised.







 

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Maybe you guys are right on the hospitals. I mean, these quotes are SCARY!!! Please, read til the end.

"Tallia says his hospital is 'managing, but just barely,' at keeping up with the increased number of sick patients in the last three weeks. The hospital’s urgent-care centers have also been inundated, and its outpatient clinics have no appointments available.”

"Dr. Bernard Camins, associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, says that UAB Hospital cancelled elective surgeries scheduled for Thursday and Friday of last week to make more beds available"

Why is Bernard so concerned if things aren't REALLY bad?

Gees guys, they had to treat people in recovery rooms!

“We had to treat patients in places where we normally wouldn’t, like in recovery rooms,” says Camins. “The emergency room was very crowded, both with sick patients who needed to be admitted”

It's just as bad in Cali.

"In CA… several hospitals have set up large 'surge tents' outside their emergency departments to accommodate and treat … patients. Even then, the LA Times reported this week, emergency departments had standing-room only, and some patients had to be treated in hallways.”

"From Laguna Beach to Long Beach, emergency rooms were struggling to cope with the overwhelming cases… and had gone into 'diversion mode,' during which ambulances are sent to other hospitals.”

“Hospitals across the state are sending away ambulances, flying in nurses from out of state and not letting children visit their loved ones for fear they’ll spread… Others are canceling surgeries and erecting tents in their parking lots to triage the hordes of… patients.”

“We’ve never had so many patients,” said Adrian Cotton, chief of medical operations at Loma Linda University Health in San Bernardino County.”

“...at least one hospital has set up an outdoor triage tent to handle the overflow of people” “In Long Beach, hospitals have started visitor restrictions. In the South Bay, a conference center has been transformed into an ambulatory clinic.”

We all know how bad Missouri is doing. They barely filled Arrowhead for the Garth Brooks concert.

"In Fenton, Missouri, SSM Health St. Clare Hospital has opened its emergency overflow wing, as well as all outpatient centers and surgical holding centers, to make more beds available to patients who need them. Nurses are being “pulled from all floors to care for them, it’s making their pre-existing conditions worse,” she says. “More and more patients are needing mechanical ventilation due to respiratory failure”

"At Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, waiting rooms turned into exam areas as a medical tent was built in order to deal with the surge of patients. A Houston doctor said local hospital beds were at capacity”

“Dr. Anthony Marinelli says they've seen a major spike in… cases. It's so overwhelmed the community hospital that they've gone on bypass at times -- that means they tell ambulances to bypass this ER and find another.”

“There’s a little bit of a feeling of being in the trenches. We’re really battling these infections to try to get them under control,” McKinnell said. “We’re still not sure if this is going to continue.

“Dr. Atallah, the chief of emergency medicine at Grady, says the hospital called on a mobile emergency department based nearly 250 miles away to help tackle the increasing patient demand. "At 500-plus patients a day you physically just need the space to put a patient in. “

“As the main emergency room gets full, patients are moved to the tent. For example, a patient who comes in with a broken arm is likely to be treated inside the tent, he said. Visitor restrictions have also been implemented.” “The county saw a 300-percent increase”


All quotes from the 2018 flu season.

Honestly I don't remember hearing a thing about the 2018 flu season. But we didn't shut sports down and schools stayed open and no one wore a mask. There wasn't any talk of limiting restaurants or bars. Hospitals survived survived just fine.

We're not to the flu season yet but I've been saying for months that I expect this flu season to be a bad one due to a lower population immunity in part due to all of the mitigation measures taken for COVID. The current rise in hospitalization is not due to the flu. I've not heard of a single positive influenza test in our area yet and they are in fact testing for it. I said early on in this deal that people don't understand how Dr.s doing hospital care and working in ICUs get slammed during the flu season. Flu cases can fill up ICUs and occupy ventilators for months in hard hit areas. There's lots of people who won't or can't take the flu vaccine too and we'll get to see them in our hospitals again starting probably in a couple of months.

I agree that we don't shut down most sports for the flu but they do in fact in our area cancel or postpone high school sports during flu outbreaks often just due to the fact that they don't have enough healthy kids to field teams.
 

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Did the US federal government issue restrictions on bar and restaurant hours? Sweden’s did. Did the US federal government enact rules on venue capacities limiting gatherings to 500 people? Sweden”s did.


Sweden will also lower the limit for groups at restaurants to four people per group, and will ban alcohol sales from 8pm, said Löfven.

Schools for over-16s will also continue online classes beyond Christmas, until January 24th. And all non-essential public services run by the state, municipalities and regions will close with immediate effect, and will remain closed until January 24th – this includes for example swimming pools, sports centres and museums, said Löfven.
Who imposed more covid restrictions, USA or Sweden?
 

GBRforLife1

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Yes, government restricted bars and restaurants.. like you couldn’t go into bars for a few moths.. longer in some states.

Edit: not sure if these were mandated at the federal or state level… or a combo of the two.
He adds in "federal" to make his statement technically correct even though the federal govt (CDC) is the one spreading panic to local health depts causing them to push out all sorts of idiotic rules and mandates that do nothing.

 

GBRforLife1

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We're not to the flu season yet but I've been saying for months that I expect this flu season to be a bad one due to a lower population immunity in part due to all of the mitigation measures taken for COVID. The current rise in hospitalization is not due to the flu. I've not heard of a single positive influenza test in our area yet and they are in fact testing for it. I said early on in this deal that people don't understand how Dr.s doing hospital care and working in ICUs get slammed during the flu season. Flu cases can fill up ICUs and occupy ventilators for months in hard hit areas. There's lots of people who won't or can't take the flu vaccine too and we'll get to see them in our hospitals again starting probably in a couple of months.

I agree that we don't shut down most sports for the flu but they do in fact in our area cancel or postpone high school sports during flu outbreaks often just due to the fact that they don't have enough healthy kids to field teams.
My point was people in health care make these claims often. And the the media overplays it and it gets the sheep all panicky.

People have gotten sick and died every single day for the last 20,000 years.

It doesn't mean we need to give up our rights or shut businesses down or disinfect our groceries or give the govt emergency powers that they'll try to never give up.
 

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The PCR test cannot distinguish between covid and the flu which I suspected along. CDC is scrapping the current test in November. Bill Gates and Soros came up with something better. No joke. Can't make this s*** up
Again, this is completely false. We have been able to differentiate between influenza and covid from the beginning. You are making it up, as are the others spreading misinformation on social media. We were using two separate tests, now the goal is one test that can detect both.
 

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If you think the mRNA gene therapy that some are calling a vaccine is good for you, get it. Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work as promised.








The vaccine is not "gene therapy" and we are NOT seeing anybody who has been fully vaccinated get sick in our area. The ones getting hospitalized this summer in our area have all refused vaccination. I'm not sure why you're on this crusade but if you convince ONE high risk person to refuse vaccination you're potentially complicit in their death. The outbreak and deaths in our area nursing homes stopped roughly 10 days after they got all of the patients vaccinated. How stubborn does one have to be to not admit that this vaccine works? They went from hauling bodies out day after day to zero facility acquired COVID deaths. None.

At the wedding I attended over the weekend in NAPA we sat with a guy who has been working on mRNA vaccine technology since 1998. He said quote "we had a vaccine ready to go for 2 previous SARS viruses. This is not that new of a technology". We just didn't have to roll out the vaccine with the other two strains because they died out quickly. I thought this one would as well but it hasn't.

You are right that this deal poses very little risk to high school and college athletes but the problem with demonizing the vaccine is that people who really do need it won't take it. The other issue is that there are thousands of people in this country under the age of 25 who may have some undiscovered health problem that puts them in a high risk category. IF we're strictly talking population medicine, they're irrelevant. IF they're your child, sibling, co-worker suddenly they become very relevant.
 
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dinglefritz

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My point was people in health care make these claims often. And the the media overplays it and it gets the sheep all panicky.

People have gotten sick and died every single day for the last 20,000 years.

It doesn't mean we need to give up our rights or shut businesses down or disinfect our groceries or give the govt emergency powers that they'll try to never give up.
I agree completely about the media. Somebody has a severe thunderstorm and they make it sound like the whole state has been destroyed and is in chaos. I am telling you though that the number of unvaccinated people rolling in to ERs and ending up in ICUs has risen dramatically again this past couple of weeks. Areas with low vaccination rates are in fact the areas that are getting slammed. They're sending COVID patients all the way up to ICUs in Sioux City and Sioux Falls from Missouri. If this continues there will no doubt be some universities who decide to cancel games again. We've had a trickle of new COVID hospitalizations over the summer in our area but that has gone up as well. Not like before but it has gone up.
 
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Again, this is completely false. We have been able to differentiate between influenza and covid from the beginning. You are making it up, as are the others spreading misinformation on social media. We were using two separate tests, now the goal is one test that can detect both.
So you're saying the CDC is ending the Emergency Use Authorization of the PCR tests and urging testing sites to use different tests because they "have been able to differentiate between influenza and covid from the beginning?"


 

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So you're saying the CDC is ending the Emergency Use Authorization of the PCR tests and urging testing sites to use different tests because they "have been able to differentiate between influenza and covid from the beginning?"




Not all tests, just one that was only designed to detect COVID. PCR’s have since been released that can detect multiple viruses along with COVID.