I'm saying your opinions make no sense. NU is at .375 winning percentage under Amart. That's what we used to call Kansas. Otherwise known as a loser.
My exact thoughts on AM
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Yes. We should always have two #1's fighting for the starting job. Or Frost should recruit better. Year 4 and we keep on talking that Amart is rounding the corner!
I would've absolutely liked to have seen LM continue as QB, and absolutely do not think our record would've been any worse if he had
AM beat purdue and rutgers to finish the season, which literally anyone could do, while losing to the rest, which, again, literally anyone could do
Seriously?
I don’t disagree about the last two years. Total cluster.
But his first year he was a freshman all American because he deserved it. He was pretty amazing… the only knock was his turnovers.
I just don’t like revisionist history that says Frost was wrong to go with Martinez. His Freshman year was pretty incredible. His last two years have been pretty bad.
Blame Frost for lack of develop and coaching, and I can’t disagree. But after his freshman year, 98% of this board was pumped to see what he would do in his second season.
AM as a freshman was so good I thought he would be leaving early for the NFL. Frost recruited an athlete that wanted to be a QB in McCaffrey and from what I hear Smothers is very similar. I have a good feeling about Heinrich Haarberg and I just hope it materializes as such.
Coaching matters? Did AM opt to run a swing pass on the three yard line to a walkon receiver…a play, BTW, that has worked about 10 percent of the time in Frost’s tenure. Why…we haven’t had the players to block it…so why run it?? Again…coaching matters.
We did last year with Luke and AM. You know what happened there when Luke replaced AM. The only transfer QB that would led to your scenario in 2021, chose New Mexico over us (the kid from Kentucky) although we tried to bring him here.Yes. We should always have two #1's fighting for the starting job. Or Frost should recruit better. Year 4 and we keep on talking that Amart is rounding the corner!
Sometimes the stars don't align the way we want them to and it's no one's fault.
Frost and V have done a poor job coaching and keeping the cupboard full.
Having said that, Adrian has the physical traits to be a great quarterback. Can he? Jury is out.
Smothers was a miss in recruiting, he just can't pass, and they aren't good enough to coach him up.
The silver lining to me is that our OLine will be the best it has been so far for Amart, and our receiving corps will be much better as well and more in line with what he had to work with in year 1.
Now I'll really cause some heads to explode: If Amart has another average season, who starts next year?
Having said that, Adrian has the physical traits to be a great quarterback. Can he? Jury is out.
Smothers was a miss in recruiting, he just can't pass, and they aren't good enough to coach him up.
The silver lining to me is that our OLine will be the best it has been so far for Amart, and our receiving corps will be much better as well and more in line with what he had to work with in year 1.
Now I'll really cause some heads to explode: If Amart has another average season, who starts next year?
I would say the last two QBs Frost has recruited have a good deal of potential but no experience.. Are they a better choice than AM now, no.
The problem with QB depth started with Gebbia's abrupt defection which was not Frost's fault.
If Gebbia didn't stick around to compete for the QB position right up until the first week of the season, Frost would have probably taken another QB in 2018.
After 2018 Martinez looked like the guy for the next 2 or 3 years, so only one QB was take in 2019, 4* Luke M. If Gebbia had stayed, Frost would have had a viable replacement for AM during the 2019 season and the future.
Remember, Frost started his tenure with zero QB depth on the team, He had to start a true freshman and had no other scholarship QBs in the room.
If Martinez has another bad year, they better seriously go after a transfer quarterback who can start.
he has another year of eligibility. he could really turn it around with another year
Anybody who thinks McCaffery was a legitimate option at quarterback or on the same level as Martinez either didn't watch the games or is extremely unintelligent
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Maybe.. but the records of each starting qb says differently. How am I extremely unintelligent?
Not sure the criticism of AM. He is by far our MVP going into the season. If he gets hurt on the first snap against Fordham, I think Neb wins about 3 games. If he says healthy…probably win at least 6 with ceiling of 8 or 9.
What other player on Neb’s team is as important to this season?
BTW he was a freshman AA and a top 5 Heisman candidate going into his sophomore year. The kid has the ability. There were games last year where we started 3 walkons at WR with Wandale as RB. If he had Stanley Morgan and JD like he did as a Frosh I’m sure he has a lot more confidence to throw deep. Face it…many times guys weren’t open. They had Warner going deep early in the season?
When young talent WAS out there like Betts…the youngster was running the wrong route a good percentage of the time.
IMO…the least of Neb’s problem is AM. The biggest liabilty is in the coaching. Name 3 games we outcoached the opposition last year.
AM our problem? Don’t think so.
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Remind me what is his record as a starting qb?
I hope you’re right and he kills it, but history says otherwise.
Our record is HIS fault? Do you honestly believe that? You’re delusional if so. If he plays QB for the 95 NC team he likely goes 13-0. COACHING, LINE PLAY, TALENT at the SKILL POSITIONS, SPECIAL TEAMS and DEFENSE have all been sub- par to poor over the past 3 seasons. But the record is on AM? See how our team does when he gets hurt this year. It will get ugly real fast.
When the game is on the line and the ball is in his hands we usually lose. Just a fact. Don’t be so emotional.. I’m just saying his hasn’t led us to wins as a starting qb. Hope he turns it around this year.
Could happen. However, when you have the probable 15 INT's, 14 fumbles, and numerous mental breakdowns thrown into the mix, those stats mean nothing.
John J, stick to killing people in all sorts of cool ways, because you don't know squat about football. gbr
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Rambo could have killed Sheriff Teasel and his four deputies, but he didn't.....so there's that.
Amart.
There would be glowing reviews next summer about how he looks either larger or smaller depending, and how he looks unstoppable once again.
So being out-executed, having more turnovers, questionable play calling at times and more “dumb” penalties (e.g. late hits) than the opposition is indicative of less than stellar coaching…would you not agree?
The fake punt that lasted 17 seconds for Neb to react to? Did you see a comedy of errors, special teams gaffe of that sort anywhere else in college FB last year?
You make some good points but losing Jurgens would not hurt this team in regards to potential wins as it would be to lose AM. Not even close IMO. HH is not ready for prime time and Smothers (IMHO) is not a Power 5 QB…much like Luke last year.
AM was a freshman AA in 2018. What was Neb’s record that year?
The fake punt that lasted 17 seconds for Neb to react to? Did you see a comedy of errors, special teams gaffe of that sort anywhere else in college FB last year?
You make some good points but losing Jurgens would not hurt this team in regards to potential wins as it would be to lose AM. Not even close IMO. HH is not ready for prime time and Smothers (IMHO) is not a Power 5 QB…much like Luke last year.
AM was a freshman AA in 2018. What was Neb’s record that year?
losing record. How many freshman starting QBs were there in 2018?
Out executed is a player issue, turnovers are a player issue, dumb penalties are player issues. I can't believe I am defending Frost, but are you saying Frost and company are teaching them to hit the wrong gap, blow coverages, miss blocks, hit late, false start etc
Doesn’t
Thoughts on my coaching questions? Could some of things equate to being “outcoached”?
He was also a top Heisman candidate entering his sophomore year (top 5 or 6 in Vegas odds if memory serves me correctly) - an award that can be given to frosh, sophs, juniors and seniors alike.
Thoughts on my coaching questions? Could some of things equate to being “outcoached”?
I'll answer my own question - The following QBs played well enough to be considered Freshman All America.
I believe I counted 10 freshman QBs in the top 100 in QB ranking, these 5 were in the top 50 of all QBs.
Trevor Lawrence - also freshman AA
Brock Purdy
Desmond Ridder
Chris Robinson
Adrian Martinez
I believe I counted 10 freshman QBs in the top 100 in QB ranking, these 5 were in the top 50 of all QBs.
Trevor Lawrence - also freshman AA
Brock Purdy
Desmond Ridder
Chris Robinson
Adrian Martinez
And he and the team **** the bed in 2019. I would say he was a candidate mostly due to those same people believing the team was going to do better than 5-7, and having Scott Frost as his coach. He was the same guy going into his junior year in 2020, was he on any lists? He is the same guy this year, still no Heisman list.
Just because the best we have, doesn't make him good.
I would argue 1) we saw his potential in 2018 and 2) with better coaching and development he’d be further along. TO himself called him at one time the most talented QB ever at Neb.
As for my coaching questions? Will you admit at least in my examples - which often are indicators of less than great coaching…that Neb has exhibited a lot (and consistently) of these indicators under Frost?
Again…main concern not AM. The discipline and play and decision making of the leaders over this team has been poor over the past 3 years. I’m hoping the light turns on this year or “more talent” may not matter much.
And if you still believe that AM is the problem, Frost had the opportunity to have Burrow (a Husker legacy and a #1 pick in the NFL draft.). Frost declined stating…”you think he’s better than what we’ve got”. AM was SF’s decision..the man making a cool 5 million dollars a year in Lincoln.
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If you think a guy that had one TD (on a glorified handoff) and threw 6 INT was the better QB you are unintelligent.
if you think a guy with a career winning % in the 30s 40 starts in gives us our best chance to win, you are unintelligent
I don't care what it looked like, Luke won half his games, including a better win than AM has had in his way-too-long-already career
Adrian Martinez is a loser, and we are going nowhere with him as our starting QB.
the fact we have to put up with seeing him trot out there yet again is the biggest indictment on Frost and his mickey mouse program, by far, even with myriad indictments to choose from.
Luke was a garbage QB and giving him credit for winning football, despite his awful play is stupid.