Is a 5th year automatic?

[Redscarlet]

So the PAC 12 is soft or just that one team? The pac 12 plays touch football or just that one team? You are the one that used those generalities in describing the entirety of Pac 12 football. I was just pointing out a fact about where the current head coach gained his experience. Now your wanting to compare Oregon St to Oregon? Keep moving the goal posts.

Don’t know if you followed the Big 10 bus tours prior to the start of the season but Gary DiNardo mentioned 2 of the 3 years when visiting Lincoln that Nebraska looks like a Pac- 12 football team and not a Big 10 football team under Riley..These were not my words these were from a former coach watching practice..

I’ll take his word for it and I’ll move the goal posts back from the start..

Your a smart enough guy watching as much football as I do can tell the difference how more physical the Big 10 conference is compared to Pac-12 or Big12 football..

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Don’t know if you followed the Big 10 bus tours prior to the start of the season but Gary DiNardo mentioned 2 of the 3 years when visiting Lincoln that Nebraska looks like a Pac- 12 football team and not a Big 10 football team under Riley..These were not my words these were from a former coach watching practice..

I’ll take his word for it and I’ll move the goal posts back from the start..

Your a smart enough guy watching as much football as I do can tell the difference how more physical the Big 10 conference is compared to Pac-12 or Big12 football..

LOL - after the bus tour in 2019 Dinardo stated he could see why many picked Neb to win the division.



so after Dinardo sees this team in person and deduces they have the talent to win the division ... this talent is subsequently coached to a total of 2 divisional wins in 2019 followed by a grand total of 1 divisional win in 2020

 

[hedonistimpulse]

There are probably less than 10 guys on the roster that weren’t recruited and signed by Frost. Domann and Dismuke from 2016 class are only on the roster because of Covid.

The fact that Frost and Co haven’t recruited over those 10 guys is 100% an excuse.

So are you saying that if Frost didn’t have those Riley players still on his team then the W-L record would be even worse?

(Add Stille)

Possibly. It's telling that you choose to go the route of failed recruiting instead of successful development, especially when the guys coming back are very good players.

That said, the guy simply built a statement on something that's not accurate and I pointed out his inaccuracy. It's similar to me pointing out that Jurgens was recruited as an Athlete instead of a TE with you the other day.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

The guy simply built a statement on something that's not accurate and I pointed out his inaccuracy. It's similar to me pointing out that Jurgens was recruited as an Athlete instead of a TE with you the other day.

My point with Jurgens is that he was not recruited as an OL. That is accurate. Yet you are arguing that point with me.

The fact that there a small number of players on this roster that were not recruited by Frost says nothing about the fact that they are "his guys". Frost made a decision to keep these guys around, he didn't do that with everyone, when he kept them around and even gave them the 6th year, that makes them his guys.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

My point with Jurgens is that he was not recruited as an OL. That is accurate. Yet you are arguing that point with me.

The fact that there a small number of players on this roster that were not recruited by Frost says nothing about the fact that they are "his guys". Frost made a decision to keep these guys around, he didn't do that with everyone, when he kept them around and even gave them the 6th year, that makes them his guys.

I'm not arguing anything, simply making sure that you understood that he was likely to be moved from TE and that likelihood was established in high school when he was rated as an Athlete.

Your definition of "his guys" is entirely yours to create, but they're not "his guys" that were recruited by him, that's the basis of the comment from the other guy and it's not accurate unless we're creating our own definitions.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Possibly, but we'll never know. It's telling that you choose to go the route of failed recruiting instead of successful development.

Well considering this team has 12 wins and 20 losses says the odds of failed recruiting far outweigh the odds of successful development.

I would also use Jojo Domann moving from safety to OLB as evidence of poor recruiting and unsuccessful development. Where is the OLB that was recruited or developed.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I'm not arguing anything, simply making sure that you understood that he was likely to be moved from TE and that likelihood was established in high school when he was rated as an Athlete.

Your definition of "his guys" is entirely yours to create, but they're not "his guys" that were recruited by him, that's the basis of the comment from the other guy and it's not accurate unless we're creating our own definitions.

What other guy? Argue with him about definitions. When I read his post it read something to the effect that the players on the team are all "his guys". To me that says, he chose to keep them around and they are all on his team. Tristan Gebbia, not a Frost guy, JoJo Domannn is a Frost guy.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

Well considering this team has 12 wins and 20 losses says the odds of failed recruiting far outweigh the odds of successful development.

I would also use Jojo Domann moving from safety to OLB as evidence of poor recruiting and unsuccessful development. Where is the OLB that was recruited or developed.

Moving JoJo is the development side of it. They developed JoJo Domann.

They also still have him on the roster and have Isaac Gifford as a RS Freshman pegged to replace him when he leaves, so I think that covers the recruiting side of it.

That's my viewpoint. It's clear that you're going to view things a little differently than me and that's fine.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

What other guy? Argue with him about definitions. When I read his post it read something to the effect that the players on the team are all "his guys". To me that says, he chose to keep them around and they are all on his team. Tristan Gebbia, not a Frost guy, JoJo Domannn is a Frost guy.

You're trying to establish that a guy not having his scholarship revoked makes him Frost's guy when Mike Riley recruited him. Like I said, it requires you to create your own definitions and that's not how conversations based on facts work.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

Look. I'm not going to endlessly bash Frost. I want him to win. But he has to do just that. Win. He's underperformed with what he's got. Enough of the blaming Riley. He's lost games he should have won. It's year 4 and I'm tired of the excuses.

Your posting history contradicts this.

I get that you're struggling with this rebuild. I totally understand it. Perhaps you were expecting a finished product during the rebuild. Perhaps you failed to understand exactly how long 5 years really is when you're noting that it's year 4 (actually 100 days prior to year 4) as a basis for your frustration. All of this is okay.

It's clear that you're not going to be satisfied until Nebraska is winning again and you're not going to recognize any signs of progress until that happens either. Kudos to you for showing up every day to complain until that time.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Your posting history contradicts this.

I get that you're struggling with this rebuild. I totally understand it. Perhaps you were expecting a finished product during the rebuild. Perhaps you failed to understand exactly how long 5 years really is when you're noting that it's year 4 (actually 100 days prior to year 4) as a basis for your frustration. All of this is okay.

It's clear that you're not going to be satisfied until Nebraska is winning again and you're not going to recognize any signs of progress until that happens either. Kudos to you for showing up every day to complain until that time.

to comfort those who are nervous, please list all the power 5 coaches within the last couple of decades who came out of the gate with 3 straight losing seasons then went on to have significant success

thanks ....

 

[hedonistimpulse]

to comfort those of us who are nervous, please list all the power 5 coaches within the last couple of decades who came out of the gate with 3 straight losing seasons then went on to have significant success

thanks ....

I'll get that list to you as soon as Frost completes his 3rd full season. Frost has completed essentially three full conference seasons, however.

That said, Frost has a better initial 3-year conference record (9-17) than the following coaches (this is most certainly not a comprehensive list and I'll omit guys like Barry Alvarez, Bill Snyder, and Bill McCartney even though they all fall into this category and are all within the 500-mile radius of the University of Nebraska):

Art Briles (7-17)
Kirk Ferentz (7-17)
Jerry Kill (8-16)
Lance Leipold (8-16)

It's clear that Frost has struggled, but guys have come out worse and done varying degrees of well. Briles is a bad person and Ferentz is a Grand Wizard, but it could have been a worse start on the field for HCSF who by all accounts is a pretty good guy. None of the guys listed here had to coach during a global pandemic either, so take that into account or don't, but it's certainly a variable.

All of this aside, the success had by any of the coaches listed sans Briles won't be good enough at DONU because Nebraska won't accept what Kill did at Minnesota, Leipold is still relatively unknown but considered a good coach, and Ferentz finishes .500 or worse in conference roughly 50% of the time over the course of 20+ years and that won't cut it at a school that wants, and has, championships.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Art Briles (7-17)
Kirk Ferentz (7-17)
Jerry Kill (8-16)
Lance Leipold (8-16)

art briles - winning season year 3
Ferentz - winning season year 3
Kill - winning season year 3 -- best season ever was 8 wins -- never had a team ranked at seasons end
Leipold - not a power 5 coach and did not have a losing season in year 3 at buffalo

you are 0-4

ferentz in year 4 -- undefeated in big ten -- top 10 finish

 

[hedonistimpulse]

art briles - winning season year 3
Ferentz - winning season year 3
Kill - winning season year 3 -- best season ever was 8 wins -- never had a team ranked at seasons end
Leipold - not a power 5 coach and did not have a losing season in year 3 at buffalo

you are 0-4

ferentz in year 4 -- undefeated in big ten -- top 10 finish

Ferentz in year 14: 4-8 and a worse conference record than Frost has produced at any time. Results like that aren't acceptable to teams that aren't rebuilding which is why it's only tenuously accepted in 2018 at Nebraska and has conversations like this taking place in 2021.

Nebraska is seeking sustained national success, not create 12-2 rings despite losing the big games pseudo-success, and there are going to be some bumps in the road that we'll have to overcome or we'll end up in a football purgatory where even when you win something you really win nothing like so many of our division mates.

I'm sure you're here for the long haul, though.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Nebraska is seeking sustained national success, not create 12-2 rings despite losing the big games pseudo success, and there are going to be some lumps in the road that we'll have to overcome or we'll end up in football purgatory where even when you win something you really win nothing like so many of our division mates.

I'll be sure to keep that in mind as the measuring stick -- where 12-2 is fake success

Ferentz produced 3 straight top 10 finishes in years 4-5-6. ... lets see how frost fairs .. kirk ferentz should be a pretty low bar to surpass

 

[hedonistimpulse]

I'll be sure to keep that in mind as the measuring stick -- where 12-2 is fake success

Ferentz produced 3 straight top 10 finishes in years 4-5-6. ... lets see how frost fairs

You're thinking short-term. Nebraska wants to (and is working to get to where they do) win double-digit games almost every year and a stretch of:

8-5
7-6
4-8
8-5
7-6

about half a decade after that fairly early success you mentioned should rightfully get Frost fired.

12-2 is a good season, though. But, getting smacked in the mouth by a 15+ play drive to lose in the conference championship game to a team a bad Nebraska team beat just a few weeks earlier and then getting rolled in the Rose Bowl is not good and you know this.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

You're thinking short-term. Nebraska wants to (and is working to get to where they do) win double-digit games almost every year and a stretch of:

8-5
7-6
4-8
8-5
7-6

about half a decade after that fairly early success you mentioned will rightfully get Frost fired.

12-2 is a good season. Getting smacked in the mouth by a 15+ play drive to lose in the conference championship game to a team a bad Nebraska beat a few weeks earlier and getting rolled in the Rose Bowl is not good, though, and you know this.

if you bookend the seasons you listed with top 10 finishes ...including ending a regular season undefeated .. no way frost would get fired


these are my favorite myopic posts ..... the current results are historically bad but when you point out other programs that at least have a little bit of success -- 8-10 wins or even top 10 finishes the response is "not good enough .... Frost is building for championships!"

we will see. ... I predicted long ago that frost would lead this program into Iowa type success and the fans will paint him as a hero for doing so

again name some coaches in the last couple of decades with 3 losing seasons in a row who ended up winning championships ...

 

[Vito Corleone]

Don’t know if you followed the Big 10 bus tours prior to the start of the season but Gary DiNardo mentioned 2 of the 3 years when visiting Lincoln that Nebraska looks like a Pac- 12 football team and not a Big 10 football team under Riley..These were not my words these were from a former coach watching practice..

I’ll take his word for it and I’ll move the goal posts back from the start..

Your a smart enough guy watching as much football as I do can tell the difference how more physical the Big 10 conference is compared to Pac-12 or Big12 football..

"The Gerry Dinardo Big Ten bus tour..."RollingLaugh I'm convinced we're better now.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

That's an interesting take but I'm not willing to buy that Nebraska wouldn't be attractive for a coach. Hell just the money would bring people out of the woodwork. The infrastructure and support is here. Some of it would depend on how it ended with Frost. If he resigned or went out like Doc did, I could see it being pretty easy to hire a good prospect. That's the kicker though. We're never going to hire a proven power 5 coach away from their school unless that coach has some terrible blow up where he was at. It will always be a guy still trying to prove themselves. Given that, I think Frost has a long leash to get things right. The only way I could see him leaving is if this year was a total disaster and I think we have too much talent and too good of a defense for that to happen. JMO.

A few things...first, let me introduce myself. I just started reading this forum a few weeks ago or so. Huge college football fan, went to the University of Minnesota. Wanted to get a better idea of where your team was at. Now, onto this post:

1. I don't think the "money alone" is going to bring people out of the woodwork. All kinds of schools can pay now, plus even if you could offer a mil more or so, everyone knows the expectations and that you'll get fired pretty quickly for not getting 9 wins (unless you played QB here).

2. "The infrastructure and support is here" - just like a lot of other places. No advantage for Big Red.

3. As for the comment at the end, I'm not sure I've seen the talent, nor defense. You have lots of "stars" from high school though, as they were rated coming out. Your exodus of players like Wan'dale is going to hurt. I see about 4 wins as the ceiling for you guys this season. The game in Mpls will be just as bad as 2019 was.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

A few things...first, let me introduce myself. I just started reading this forum a few weeks ago or so. Huge college football fan, went to the University of Minnesota. Wanted to get a better idea of where your team was at. Now, onto this post:

1. I don't think the "money alone" is going to bring people out of the woodwork. All kinds of schools can pay now, plus even if you could offer a mil more or so, everyone knows the expectations and that you'll get fired pretty quickly for not getting 9 wins (unless you played QB here).

2. "The infrastructure and support is here" - just like a lot of other places. No advantage for Big Red.

3. As for the comment at the end, I'm not sure I've seen the talent, nor defense. You have lots of "stars" from high school though, as they were rated coming out. Your exodus of players like Wan'dale is going to hurt. I see about 4 wins as the ceiling for you guys this season. The game in Mpls will be just as bad as 2019 was.

Go back to the gopher hole, loser. nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody, gives a sh*t what a minnesota fan thinks about anything.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

these are my favorite myopic posts ..... the current results are historically bad but when you point out other programs that at least have a little bit of success -- 8-10 wins or even top 10 finishes the response is "not good enough .... Frost is building for championships!"

we will see. ... I predicted long ago that frost would lead this program into Iowa type success and the fans will paint him as a hero for doing so

again name some coaches in the last couple of decades with 3 losing seasons in a row who ended up winning championships ...

Bad news, the game of football isn't a couple of decades old so that little qualifier doesn't apply for any conversation we will ever have.

That said, list the coaches ALL-TIME who have gone 4-8 nearly 15 years into a stretch at a school and later led their team to a championship, conference or national. There's at least one coach who started with three losing seasons and then won a MNC, that's Bill McCartney, and he didn't have the resources or the support that Frost does here.

Nebraska at least has a timeline and what you call "Iowa type success" most call purgatory. I'm happy to sit back, watch my Huskers take their lumps, and know that the shoe's dropping either way after year 5 and I'd much rather do that than know we're in for an 8-win season followed by a 6-win season followed by a 10-win season, and repeat, with no actual relevance ever ensuing under a coach (and a family) with a lifetime contract at my school.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

I am extremely positive on 2021-2022 and think this is going to be a good football team the next two years and all this will be a mute point.

Why? You lost your best player in Wan'dale and you weren't really good to begin with. Your QB can't pass and you can't run the ball. No experience at RB. Oklahoma and tOSU are going to be resting starters in the 2nd quarter against you. MN, Iowa, WI will be resting their starters by late 3rd quarter. Illinois on the road to open the year, most likely you lose it. Should be competitive with Fordham and will come down to who makes the most plays in the 4th quarter.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Minnesota sucks.

 

[Vito Corleone]

Bad news, the game of football isn't a couple of decades old so that little qualifier doesn't apply for any conversation we will ever have.

That said, list the coaches ALL-TIME who have gone 4-8 nearly 15 years into a stretch at a school and later led their team to a championship, conference or national. There's at least one coach who started with three losing seasons and then won a MNC, that's Bill McCartney, and he didn't have the resources or the support that Frost does here.

Nebraska at least has a timeline and what you call "Iowa type success" most call purgatory. I'm happy to sit back, watch my Huskers take their lumps, and know that the shoe's dropping either way after year 5 and I'd much rather do that than know we're in for an 8-win season followed by a 6-win season followed by a 10-win season, and repeat, with no actual relevance ever ensuing under a coach (and a family) with a lifetime contract at my school.

A whole bunch of hypotheticals not rooted in reality, but carry on.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

So KSU, Minnesota, Oregon St, Northwestern, freakin INDIANA can all come from worse situations and get better but we NEVER will? Doesnt make sense. You dont think hiring 5 straight bad coaches has something to do with us struggling? Hire a good coach, he turns it around immediately. Like Tom Allen at Indiana.

For us, it was definitely Fleck. Similar to Nebraska, our state doesn't come close to producing enough talent to compete at the P5 level. The thing that Indiana and Northwestern have that you don't is location. They have much more local talent around them. Now I know the natural comeback is "yeah, and they have Notre Dame and tOSU around them too" but they aren't going after the same players.

I personally think the problem is getting people to come to Lincoln. When Frost was at UCF, he was getting players there that you could have used here. But they stayed in Florida. What reason do kids have to really want to come to Lincoln anymore? If the playoff expands to 8, it would be much easier to go to a G5 team and compete for a playoff spot or a good January bowl game, as opposed to coming to Lincoln and trying to rebuild a program they have no affiliation towards.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

What is it with these loser opposing fans constantly coming here to tell us we’re no longer relevant?

Do dumbf*cks like this gopher not see the irony?

Guarantee one thing- the only ppl posting on mn and iowa boards are mn and iowa fans. Irrelevant is as irrelevant does.

Piss off, clown. Mn is a cesspool dump. Row row row your boat back where you belong.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Moving JoJo is the development side of it. They developed JoJo Domann.

They also still have him on the roster and have Isaac Gifford as a RS Freshman pegged to replace him when he leaves, so I think that covers the recruiting side of it.

That's my viewpoint. It's clear that you're going to view things a little differently than me and that's fine.

OK, so you take one of your best DBs and move him to OLB because none of the other players recruited to play that position have panned out, and you consider this development. Then you consider a legacy 3 star recruit as recruiting success?

You're right, we do see things differently.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

OK, so you take one of your best DBs and move him to OLB because none of the other players recruited to play that position have panned out, and you consider this development. Then you consider a legacy 3 star recruit as recruiting success?

You're right, we do see things differently.

What did JoJo Domann ever do to establish himself as "one of (our) best DBs"?

The kid has zero career ints and had exactly 2 passes defended prior to moving up in the box. Support your thoughts, man.

For reference, one of our actual best DBs, Dicaprio Bootle, had 15 passes defended his sophomore season alone.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

Michigan is in the same boat Nebraska is than, Harbaugh was their dream hire after his success at other stops including the NFL, I surely don’t think Michigan isn’t attractive job just because he didn’t get it done at his Alma mater..

The only difference is Michigan is surrounded by a lot more talent. And while the results haven't been what the fans wanted, they aren't getting embarrassed like you guys have been recently.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

Yep!

People need to remember, these are not typical jobs that me and you get. These are lotto tickets, you get paid ALL YOUR MONEY, regardless of your performance.

Think about accepting a job and the second you sign your name on the contract, you are set for life no matter how you perform.

The problem with this line of thinking is that a coach doesn't have to go to Nebraska to be set for life - any P5 or G5 job will provide that. Look at Fleck here, we were so used to being mediocre that he has nothing to worry about. As long as we compete for the West and beat WI half the time, he isn't in any danger of losing his job. Now why would a talented coach pick Nebraska when there are plenty of schools that will be jumping for joy with some 9 wins seasons? Come to Nebraska, go 3 or 4 years without hitting 9 wins, get fired. Who wants that?

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

The only difference is Michigan is surrounded by a lot more talent. And while the results haven't been what the fans wanted, they aren't getting embarrassed like you guys have been recently.

losing to mn is extremely embarrassing.

it’s too bad that cesspool dump of a city/state isn’t totally rubble by now. hey, maybe you’ll have your first ever sellout this season, assuming of course games aren’t canceled for safety precautions a la the twins.

back to the hole, loser! nobody cares what a fan of a program that hasn’t won anything since world war 2 has to say.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

What did JoJo Domann ever do to establish himself as "one of (our) best DBs"?

The kid has zero career ints and had exactly 2 passes defended prior to moving up in the box. Support your thoughts, man.

For reference, one of our actual best DBs, Dicaprio Bootle, had 15 passes defended his sophomore season alone.

He played as a true freshman, injured as a soph (redshirted), played in only 6 games in his RS soph year, RS jr year moved to LB and RS Sr year was at LB. This 6th year will be at LB.

He was going to be a starter in the defensive backfield in 2019. The move wasn't made because Domann wasn't working out at Safety or Nickel, it was made because there was no one in place to play the position, and Domann was the best option.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

The problem with this line of thinking is that a coach doesn't have to go to Nebraska to be set for life - any P5 or G5 job will provide that. Look at Fleck here, we were so used to being mediocre that he has nothing to worry about. As long as we compete for the West and beat WI half the time, he isn't in any danger of losing his job. Now why would a talented coach pick Nebraska when there are plenty of schools that will be jumping for joy with some 9 wins seasons? Come to Nebraska, go 3 or 4 years without hitting 9 wins, get fired. Who wants that?

Newsflash- you’re still, and will always remain, mediocre.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

He played as a true freshman, injured as a soph (redshirted), played in only 6 games in his RS soph year, RS jr year moved to LB and RS Sr year was at LB. This 6th year will be at LB.

He was going to be a starter in the defensive backfield in 2019. The move wasn't made because Domann wasn't working out at Safety or Nickel, it was made because there was no one in place to play the position, and Domann was the best option.

It was made because guys were better suited for the position of DB. Domann can and does carry 225+ well. The smart move is to allow him to do that and move him up in the box while guys like CTB and Williams who weigh in at 205 cover the back half. It's a common-sense move and it's a bit troubling that it needs to be explained to be honest.

That said, nothing of what you say points to him ever being one of our best DBs. Essentially everything he's ever put on the stat sheet or on film has happened in the last two years.

 

[Redscarlet]

The only difference is Michigan is surrounded by a lot more talent. And while the results haven't been what the fans wanted, they aren't getting embarrassed like you guys have been recently.

Nebraska would have whipped Michigan last year..

 

[rgrachek]

Upon the Frost hire, I was committing to Frost for 5 years minimum. I now believe that he needs to bring us back to a winning season (above .500) to come back for year 5. Is the general consensus that he can have a 4th losing season and make it to year 5?

The bottom line is that with this roster, of he doesn't win 7-9, it's about coaching and there needs to be a change. This roster is way way better than the one that he won 5 games with in 2019, especially on defense.

 

[bigboxes]

Your posting history contradicts this.

I get that you're struggling with this rebuild. I totally understand it. Perhaps you were expecting a finished product during the rebuild. Perhaps you failed to understand exactly how long 5 years really is when you're noting that it's year 4 (actually 100 days prior to year 4) as a basis for your frustration. All of this is okay.

It's clear that you're not going to be satisfied until Nebraska is winning again and you're not going to recognize any signs of progress until that happens either. Kudos to you for showing up every day to complain until that time.

Nope. You are incorrect. But I'm not satisfying with losing. Frost should have done better than he has. I'm tired of all the excuses. It can't be the Big Ten is a weak conference and then have trouble beating Purdue. It can't be that Riley had major roster problems and the bottom line is winning, but with Frost he's given a pass.

Frost is the worst Husker coach since Jennings. Prove me wrong Coach Frost.

 

[GoGophers_NoBigRed]

Gee I don't know. Maybe we defend the staff becaues ******** like you keep coming on this board stirring the pot. Is your team's coaching staff "getting it done"? You and your lover need to stay on your own board. What kind of a sick person feels the need to venture on to another team's message board. You both need help.

Gee I don't know. Maybe football fans who want to learn what's going on with a team they play every year?

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Now why would a talented coach pick Nebraska when there are plenty of schools that will be jumping for joy with some 9 wins seasons? Come to Nebraska, go 3 or 4 years without hitting 9 wins, get fired. Who wants that?

Those days are gone ... now the standard is 9 wins combined in 2 seasons.

in fact ... it gets you a contract extension!!

 

[Redscarlet]

Why? You lost your best player in Wan'dale and you weren't really good to begin with. Your QB can't pass and you can't run the ball. No experience at RB. Oklahoma and tOSU are going to be resting starters in the 2nd quarter against you. MN, Iowa, WI will be resting their starters by late 3rd quarter. Illinois on the road to open the year, most likely you lose it. Should be competitive with Fordham and will come down to who makes the most plays in the 4th quarter.

Wan’Dale wouldn’t be our best player on this years team if he would have stayed...

Your losing creditability with this lame azz post..
Time for you to crawl back in your hole!