Nebraska B-ball next year

Lincoln100

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Will be a poor man's Gonzaga. When we played like a team, we looked a little bit like them. Next year, we will be dancing.
 

cHUCK001

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Comparing Nebraska to Gonzaga in any form is like comparing DeNiro's performance in Raging Bull to Adam Sandler's performance in Little Nicky.
 

mwulf

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Our football team is closer to Gonzagas football team than our basketball teams are
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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Well...the fact that NU will return a lot more experience next year; and our highest rated recruit ever will arrive...should lead to better results. It would be nice to think NU could surge and make the Dance.

That is probably too optimistic though, and we don’t deserve nice things
 

leodisflowers

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Until it happens I will remain skeptical, but I honestly don't feel that we are that far away. I believe I said it in another thread, but we need a compliment for Walker, one shooter and one guy that can finish at the rack. Have a lot of good compliments, just need a few to get us over the hump.
 

rrthusker

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The Red Kool Aid never ceases to amaze me. There is nothing this squad has done underFred that leads me to believe they are a poor man’s Gonzaga or will come close to sniffing the Dance.
 
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We will have more star talent on the team next year than we have ever had. That has to count for something.
We were hanging with some great teams and only losing by a few points. Will our incoming 5 star and other all american make up those few points? I don't think we are a top 10 team or anything but I think we make a big jump next year and continue to capture attention of good recruits
 

schuele

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We were hanging with some great teams and only losing by a few points.
I guess you could say that about the OT game with Illinois. Beyond that, I'm at a loss to name any great teams NU played close.

Unless we're going by the TV talking head mantra that every Big Ten team is automatically "great."
 

TerranPetteway

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I'm a big nebraska basketball homer, and I think we have a chance to make the tourney next year, but comparing us to Gonzaga in any way seems a little ridiculous
 

Scat_Back

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I’d say <20% chance we make the tourney next year. Our *one* incoming star will still be a freshman and we don’t really know at this point what we’ll get out of him in D-1 play his first year. I’m optimistic about the next 3 or 4 years but people saying we’ll make the tourney next year need to pump the brakes. We were bad in a conference that ended up being much worse than advertised and have mostly the same players returning.
 

BigB87

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With what we have returning and what we have coming in, I'm cautiously hopeful. I do wish we could get a legit big or two, I feel like that would really help us compete better in the B1G.
 

mgbreeze

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I'll watch the games. No expectations. I was really excited for this season, but reality has a way of asserting itself pretty quickly.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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going back to the 1800s (the entire history of neb basketball) - before the 2019-2020 season Neb had never lost 20 or more games in a season

they have now lost 20 or more games in back to back seasons the last 2 years

will 2021-2022 be a breakout season where the loss total dips below 20?
 
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going back to the 1800s - before the 2019-2020 season Neb had never lost 20 or more games in a season

they have now lost 20 or more games in back to back seasons the last 2 years

will 2021-2022 be a breakout season where the loss total dips below 20?
#14 in the B1G standings, #1 in @jlb321’s brain
 
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leodisflowers

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I’d say <20% chance we make the tourney next year. Our *one* incoming star will still be a freshman and we don’t really know at this point what we’ll get out of him in D-1 play his first year. I’m optimistic about the next 3 or 4 years but people saying we’ll make the tourney next year need to pump the brakes. We were bad in a conference that ended up being much worse than advertised and have mostly the same players returning.

I'm not sure the conference was worse than advertised. The NCAA tournament is a whole different animal than the regular season. If you are off your game even a little you can get bounced and a whole lot more nerves. A lot of the teams in the tourney would struggle in the B1G regular season. JMO
 

Lincoln100

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If Walker is playing the entire year, we've got I'm saying at least 5 more wins. Their spacing and passing improved a good deal by the end of the year. Put another 15 pounds on Andre. The O is on its way to gelling. If the D can be salty, we're dancin.
 

Rcnut223

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Comparing Nebraska to Gonzaga in any form is like comparing DeNiro's performance in Raging Bull to Adam Sandler's performance in Little Nicky.
Given Gonzaga last fielded a football team in 1941 , I think you are right!
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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The AD fired a coach who had won 19 and 22 games the prior 2 seasons because it wasn’t good enough

the last 2 seasons after his coaching change the team has failed to win at least 10 games both years -

Single digit win totals haven’t occurred in back to back seasons in nearly 60 years (1963)

Bill Moos is paying a basketball salary that is in the top 10 in the entire nation and yet records for futility are being set the likes of which haven’t been seen in 6 decades - at a program where the bar couldn’t be any lower no less
 
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schuele

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The AD fired a coach who had won 19 and 22 games the prior 2 seasons because it wasn’t good enough

the last 2 seasons after his coaching change the team has failed to win at least 10 games both years -

Single digit win totals haven’t occurred in back to back seasons in nearly 60 years (1963)

Bill Moos is paying a basketball salary that is in the top 10 in the entire nation and yet records for futility are being set the likes of which haven’t been seen in 6 decades - at a program where the bar couldn’t be any lower no less
Good Lord, man. Do you really have nothing else to do all the livelong day than post the same damn thing over and over and over and over again?

If things don't get dramatically better under Hoiberg, he will walk the plank just like Miles. But Miles didn't get shown the door after two years, did he?
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Good Lord, man. Do you really have nothing else to do all the livelong day than post the same damn thing over and over and over and over again?

If things don't get dramatically better under Hoiberg, he will walk the plank just like Miles. But Miles didn't get shown the door after two years, did he?

Miles never had a single digit win season

Bill Moos’ hire has been here 2 years and has had 2 single digit win seasons

single digit win seasons

miles - zero
Sadler - zero
Collier - zero
Nee - zero
Iba - zero
cipriano - 2 in 17 seasons

Fred has as many single digit win seasons in his first 2 years as the last 6 coaches combined - a time span of almost 60 years ... the underachievement is historic
 
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schuele

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Miles never had a single digit win season

Bill Moos’ hire has been here 2 years and has had 2 single digit win seasons

single digit win seasons

miles - zero
Sadler - zero
Collier - zero
Nee - zero
Iba - zero
cipriano - 2 in 17 seasons

Fred has as many single digit win seasons in his first 2 years as the last 6 coaches combined - a time span of almost 60 years
ME: "Do you really have nothing else to do all the livelong day than post the same damn thing over and over and over and over again?"

ME AGAIN: "Obviously not."
 

mgbreeze

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Yeah, that Miles was really getting it done. He was last seen doing color commentary at the Heartland Hoops Classic and can't get a job coaching a D1 team to save his life. What a success story. Say that Hoiberg sucks, I don't care. But don't try and say Miles was getting it done.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Yeah, that Miles was really getting it done. He was last seen doing color commentary at the Heartland Hoops Classic and can't get a job coaching a D1 team to save his life. What a success story. Say that Hoiberg sucks, I don't care. But don't try and say Miles was getting it done.

please point out where I wrote that Tim Miles was “getting it done” and I will retract immediately with an accompanying apology

the general idea when firing someone for underperformance is to improve as the result of your new hire
Neb has gone from poor/bad to the absolute worst combined basketball/football program in all of power 5 sports under Moos

if you deem that the decision to fire a coach was correct it doesn't automatically make the resulting hire correct - some struggle with this concept

Bill Moos after one of the smallest COIVD pay reductions in the league paid his basketball coach the highest salary in the conference for a dead last finish where they were 3 full games behind in the win column of the next closest team

paying historic salaries for historic losing and then whining about revenue - ADing 101 under William Moos
 

tdierberger

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please point out where I wrote that Tim Miles was “getting it done” and I will retract immediately with an accompanying apology

the general idea when firing someone for underperformance is to improve as the result of your new hire
Neb has gone from poor/bad to the absolute worst combined basketball/football program in all of power 5 sports under Moos

if you deem that the decision to fire a coach was correct it doesn't automatically make the resulting hire correct - some struggle with this concept

Bill Moos after one of the smallest COIVD pay reductions in the league paid his basketball coach the highest salary in the conference for a dead last finish where they were 3 full games behind in the win column of the next closest team

paying historic salaries for historic losing and then whining about revenue - ADing 101 under William Moos
Two things...
1. In a world full of antagonistic pricks, you rank near the top.
2. It’s always easy to point out how wrong things are when you’re not the one trying to make things right.
 

Newbomb_Turk1

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Scat_Back

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The AD fired a coach who had won 19 and 22 games the prior 2 seasons because it wasn’t good enough

the last 2 seasons after his coaching change the team has failed to win at least 10 games both years -

Single digit win totals haven’t occurred in back to back seasons in nearly 60 years (1963)

Bill Moos is paying a basketball salary that is in the top 10 in the entire nation and yet records for futility are being set the likes of which haven’t been seen in 6 decades - at a program where the bar couldn’t be any lower no less

Patience grasshopper. Full time critics are the biggest cowards in the world. Probably also clinically depressed.
 

mgbreeze

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please point out where I wrote that Tim Miles was “getting it done” and I will retract immediately with an accompanying apology

the general idea when firing someone for underperformance is to improve as the result of your new hire
Neb has gone from poor/bad to the absolute worst combined basketball/football program in all of power 5 sports under Moos

if you deem that the decision to fire a coach was correct it doesn't automatically make the resulting hire correct - some struggle with this concept

Bill Moos after one of the smallest COIVD pay reductions in the league paid his basketball coach the highest salary in the conference for a dead last finish where they were 3 full games behind in the win column of the next closest team

paying historic salaries for historic losing and then whining about revenue - ADing 101 under William Moos
If Hoiberg fails it doesn't automatically make Miles' firing incorrect - some struggle with this concept.
 

EastOregonHusker

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I'm not sure the conference was worse than advertised. The NCAA tournament is a whole different animal than the regular season. If you are off your game even a little you can get bounced and a whole lot more nerves. A lot of the teams in the tourney would struggle in the B1G regular season. JMO
When you are given such favorable seeding, and ALL BUT 1 TEAM loses in the first 2 rounds you are worse than advertised. It’s not like it just happened to two or three teams.
 
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I'm not sure the conference was worse than advertised. The NCAA tournament is a whole different animal than the regular season. If you are off your game even a little you can get bounced and a whole lot more nerves. A lot of the teams in the tourney would struggle in the B1G regular season. JMO
I don't believe this one bit

I said in January Gonzaga would go unbeaten in the B1G. I stand by that. I also think any of the P5 regular season champions would easily have competed for the B1G title, too.

like @schuele once sagely said - when B1G teams play each other, somebody's got to win. basketball is just like football - people tout these teams when they're 'grinding it out' against one another, only to make excuse after excuse when they get piss pounded by every other conference in bowl games/national tourneys.
 
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Of course we will never know, but given the roster Miles had returning before he was fired it's hard to believe the program wasn't heading for a single digit win total under him that following season if he had been retained. You can argue the administration handcuffed his abilities to recruit towards the end by not extending him, but the reality is one of Miles' big downfalls as a coach throughout his time at NU was his inability to recruit and retain impact players from the high school ranks - the two primary exceptions being Roby and Watson. The constant churn in his rosters was a big hurdle for a program like NU to overcome. As has been pointed out by others, whether the program should be farther along under Hoiberg's leadership is a separate issue.
 

dinglefritz

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please point out where I wrote that Tim Miles was “getting it done” and I will retract immediately with an accompanying apology

the general idea when firing someone for underperformance is to improve as the result of your new hire
Neb has gone from poor/bad to the absolute worst combined basketball/football program in all of power 5 sports under Moos

if you deem that the decision to fire a coach was correct it doesn't automatically make the resulting hire correct - some struggle with this concept

Bill Moos after one of the smallest COIVD pay reductions in the league paid his basketball coach the highest salary in the conference for a dead last finish where they were 3 full games behind in the win column of the next closest team

paying historic salaries for historic losing and then whining about revenue - ADing 101 under William Moos
Hoiberg's record at Nebraska is directly the result of the roster he was left with by Tim Miles and the way we left Miles dangle those last 2 years. Bob The Bag Man Huggins couldn't have recruited in that situation let alone Tim Rain Man Miles. I hope that your obsession with pointing out the negative with Nebraska sports makes you feel better about yourself. Good heavens man. Get help.
 

Redscarlet

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Hoiberg's record at Nebraska is directly the result of the roster he was left with by Tim Miles and the way we left Miles dangle those last 2 years. Bob The Bag Man Huggins couldn't have recruited in that situation let alone Tim Rain Man Miles. I hope that your obsession with pointing out the negative with Nebraska sports makes you feel better about yourself. Good heavens man. Get help.

He needs major help!