part of it probably is that men are way more concerned about pecs and biceps than lats. I believe if we spent as much time on pull-ups as we do on bench and biceps they would respond. But they are hard which means we naturally want to avoid them.
OT: Pull-ups
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Bodyweight stuff is hard.
I used to coach wrestling and had a 119 pounder that could bench 225 and squat 350ish...dude could rip off pullups like they were nothing (sucked at wrestling) we. had a 190 guy that could lift the gym, held most of the school lifting records at. the time but probably could not do 3 pull ups in a row.
Check out gymnasts, those guys. are RIPPED...they look huge. Then you find out they are all 5'2 and 135 pounds. Easy for them to do pull ups.
Add pounds to that frame, even if you are working out, it isn't like that 60 pounds is all muscle and all in your back, biceps and rear delts. So you are still lifting a ton more weight up during your pull up.
Use to do 4 sets of 12 pull-ups and 4 sets of 12 chin-ups as part of my workout 3 years ago. But I’d be shocked if I could do 1 set of 2 now.
@Huskerz99 and his 3 1/2 incher helps keep the average at 8 inches for those of us packing 12 and 1/2 inchers
Pull ups are an anatomically unnatural physical action. When you stop and think about the function of the human body, when do you ever do an action that requires you to pull down with that type of action? Pulling a garage door down maybe? It's just not a muscle group we've needed to use to survive. If your daily life required you to pull yourself up a cliff or in to a tree without using your legs then you would probably be able to do a lot of pullups.
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Well, I use it when I am pulling myself up the side a girls house that has blocked me from contacting her but I know she is just playing hard to get...I mean...yeah the garage door!
Didn't the Marines make some changes to their physical fitness testing to replace pull ups because so few could pass? If a wiry HS grad can't do them you know It's a tough one. I'm getting to later 40's and still do pushups regularly. Could do 40 or so good ones no problem, but gotta be honest I'd struggle to do 2 pull ups. If I ever have to shimmy across a guy wire to escape the zombie horde I'm screwed.
I would say 8 non-kipping pullups is good for most reasonably fit adults.
For context, the bare minimum to pass the old Marine Corps boot camp Physical Fitness Test was 3 and 20 was a perfect score. Most Marines I served with averaged 10-15 and are among the most physically fit people around. And, they do pullups all the time. We were not allowed to kip and did full dead-hang.
I won't say how many pullups I did in the Corps or now.
Now excuse me while I go plow supermodels with my 13" meat sausage.
For context, the bare minimum to pass the old Marine Corps boot camp Physical Fitness Test was 3 and 20 was a perfect score. Most Marines I served with averaged 10-15 and are among the most physically fit people around. And, they do pullups all the time. We were not allowed to kip and did full dead-hang.
I won't say how many pullups I did in the Corps or now.
Now excuse me while I go plow supermodels with my 13" meat sausage.
I am 50 and I can do 8-10 too. My record was 45 when I was teenager. I could even do a couple 1 hand pull ups at that time (right hand only).
as a kid could climb most trees and could climb any ropes using just my arms. in my 20's would do 4 sets of pullups alternating with chinups at the end of heavy workouts. usually could get 20, then 15, then 10 then 8 or so. remember you could push me over with a finger at the end of that(for a few minutes anyway)
about 40 years later my mind thinks it could but one might be a tussle.
about 40 years later my mind thinks it could but one might be a tussle.
I guess that's true. 2016 Marine Times article:
"After years of debate about whether to require women to do pullups as part of the PFT, the flexed-arm hang era is officially coming to a close. Starting next year, all Marines, poolees and officer candidates will have two choices when it comes to flexing their upper-body might: pullups or pushups.
Brian McGuire, deputy of fitness branch for TECOM's standards division, called the flexed-arm hang an "inadequate test of upper body strength," adding that the pullup is preferred because it requires an individual to overcome his entire body weight, while a pushup requires he overcome only 70 to 80 percent. So why include pushups at all?
McGuire said it was because the Marine Corps didn't "want to create a manpower problem by having some female Marines failing."
This thread peaked my interest. I'm a 61 year old overweight 5 day a week gym rat. I do 4 sets weekly of around 10 pullups using the machine assist. Today I tried overhand pullups with no assist and did 4 honestly. I got a fifth by kipping. I started my Marine Corps PFT (43 years and 60 pounds ago) by doing 16 reverse grip pullups. I practiced a lot and by year 4 could do 20. I was bummed today I could do only 4, so definitely motivation to lose some weight. But I doubt I could ever get to 20 again. I don't believe the "average American man" can do eight, not by a longshot.
Yeah, I just think the fact that most dudes are probably over 160 pounds makes this really hard. That is a lot of weight to be lifting up.
I would say the "average joe" can do these things
1. One true pullup
2. 7 true pushups
That is it. I am just thinking of the dudes I work with, I can't picture any of them doing 8 real pullups. But I can picture all of them lying about it! Haha
I'm training myself for the Murph and have been doing 20lb vested "strict" pullups for a while now... usually get 10 in a set and have done up to 70 pull ups in this method... need to get to 100 for the Murph... it's tough but I'm feeling good about where I'm at and WILL complete the whole thing come Memorial Day... I'm also planning on running through the whole thing in a row and not breaking it up by mixing movements the way he ran it...
The Murph:
20 lb vest for the complete workout
1-mile run
100 pull-ups
200 push ups
300 squats
1-mile run
I ran a 1/2 murph last weekend in 34 minutes... I want to do the whole thing in less than an hour and so that's my goal
The Murph:
20 lb vest for the complete workout
1-mile run
100 pull-ups
200 push ups
300 squats
1-mile run
I ran a 1/2 murph last weekend in 34 minutes... I want to do the whole thing in less than an hour and so that's my goal
I was a gym rat from the age of 15. Lately, I simply refuse to go to any gym - you know, because of that whole Covid thing. I still do push-ups in my living room, and, no ****, lift furniture in lieu of dumbbells. When my wife sees me curling a small coffee table, I always start laughing.
How about 30 pull-ups in one minute while having a 60-pound pack strapped to your back? Or 62 pull-ups in one minute without anything strapped to your back?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mo...s-alma-mater-mesa-high/ar-BB1dMrKY?li=BBnbfcL
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We need some major clarification ITT, are we counting narrow over or underhand as pull ups and not chinups?
Narrow I can do 10 either way, real shaky past 6, past shoulder width apart, like 2.
Also does it count as one handed is you grab your wrist with the other hand? If so 2 also on that lol
Narrow I can do 10 either way, real shaky past 6, past shoulder width apart, like 2.
Also does it count as one handed is you grab your wrist with the other hand? If so 2 also on that lol
I would venture to say that 80% of American men over the age of 30 would have difficulty doing one underhand pull-up.
That's the best comeback you could come up with? One step away from crying "NUH UH!!!". IS TO BIGGER THAN THAT!!
You already used the Nu Uh its bigger than that when you claimed it was 4 inches.
Generally, the longer the arms, the fewer the pullups. Short arm dudes can get going like a beagle on a *****.
