All I read on hear is how Frost needs to start winning, hot seat, etc...I agree completely. But what about men's BB?? It is easier to rebuild a BB team than FB. Our BB team is garbage. Where's the Hoiberg hot seat crew??
Hoiberg vs Frost?
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Men’s basketball is starting to bring in some players. We need a few shooters a post player with Walker and other be guy that can just get buckets like Pettaway. The quicker we get rid of Teddy, and the French kid the better we will be
Don't get me wrong. I don't want either fired. I think both will be successful here. Just want to see improvement for both programs.
Agreed, Teddy is the cancer on the team..Hoieberg needs to find a couple of big men in this conference, most of the successful teams in league have them...
There are many similarities....Frost and Hoiberg were both supposed to be offensive geniuses, but their offenses are terrible here....and they are finding that their styles aren’t good fits for the Big Ten.
Hoiberg’s teams have always lived and died by the three-pointer. That might work in the Big 12, but the Big Ten is different....more emphasis on inside game and tough perimeter defense.
Hoiberg’s teams have always lived and died by the three-pointer. That might work in the Big 12, but the Big Ten is different....more emphasis on inside game and tough perimeter defense.
Iowa state message boards say Hoiberg is interested in Iowa State job. Haha, wouldn’t surprise me
2 words. Fundamental basketball. We suck and will continue to suck and embarrass what little fan support is left until Fred decides to incorporate team and fundamental basketball concepts. Watched about 3 minutes of last night and bailed, yes I’m a casual fan and always will be until I stop seeing long three air balls and zero defense. Team and fundamentals
Legit question... can fundamentals be taught at the college level if they didn’t exist in the player to start with?
I would say no, as motivation is the same way. It is impossible to motivate an individual that doesn’t have it to start with..
Going to have to get some recruits in on BB. FB is a better question, who knows..
I would say no, as motivation is the same way. It is impossible to motivate an individual that doesn’t have it to start with..
Going to have to get some recruits in on BB. FB is a better question, who knows..
Agree with you, need to actually build something instead of slapping a team together with left over parts from other teams and expecting greatness, I think everyone with realistic expectations would rather have a hardworking grinding team in the b10 than a flashy team that can run hot and cold
Good question, I think it depends on the player and what the coach tolerates. Ayo for Illinois had a triple double yesterday and after the game in the presser he said that he wants to be a coachable player, that he wants Coach Underwood to get on him.
Have you watched the BIG bb and studied what teams are doing? 3 point is a BIG part of what every team is doing. What is missing at Nebraska is a big man that can finish. The teams concepts are pretty much the same. It's just a matter of hitting shots including free throws.
Fred had to completely gut the program, Miles left him with nobody...this is essentially year 1 under him and one in which the program could not do much in the offseason due to COVID. Let’s see where we are at next year with more talent. I don’t believe for one second his style of play doesn’t fit in the Big Ten. The metrics show we are getting good shots.
Frost on the other hand is just a guy in over his head and has no business being a power 5 HC.
Frost on the other hand is just a guy in over his head and has no business being a power 5 HC.
I think it could work but if you are going to play that way you should probably recruit guys that can shoot. We have streaky shooters and Hoiberg has know idea how to get them in a rhythm and not having a true pg also doesn't help
Not worried at all about Fred turning the program around. He's got a 5 star, top 20 player nationally coming in next year. For a program that hasn't been good in a long, long time, that's a big accomplishment. Hopefully McGowens plays well so that other high level kids consider Nebraska.
Really wish by some miracle they could land Hunter Sallis but that I know that seems unlikely.
Really wish by some miracle they could land Hunter Sallis but that I know that seems unlikely.
Yep, pretty much the same issues with the football team. You can't skip over the fundamentals and just expect that they're going to be there. You have to practice them or at least incorporate them every day. Advanced schemes don't mean **** if you don't have the fundamentals down.
Total BS. Of course they can be taught and instilled every single day as long as the coach prioritizes it. If the coach prioritizes other things and completely ignores fundamental things, then the team is probably going to suck at the fundamentals and suck overall.
Less interest. We used to have a respectable football program. We never have had a respectable BB program.
What? Michigan says “Hello”. You can win with the 3 pointer, but you need shooters to do so.
LMAO - you say Miles left him with nobody and disregard that Frost took over a turd of a team from Riley.
finding 5-7 players should be a whole lot easier than finding 22-30. I am tired of the Covid excuse. Is Covid only hitting Lincoln, NE or does everyone have to deal with it. Does Duke suck this year because Coach K sucks, Covid, or do they just not have the players they have had in the past?
Just like Frost with Riley's players, how many of the players on the current basketball roster were recruited by and played under Miles? 1 or 2?
My concern with basketball is Hoiberg has been here two years and completely overhauled the roster twice. His first year I get because of the timing of his hire and they weren't kids that fit his style. He's always been a guy to bring in a lot of JUCO kids and he's had success because of it, I just don't like two straight years of overhauling rosters and not having any consistency. Last year was going to be rough no doubt, this year I expected much the same given the new roster and skill in the Big 10.
Covid isn't an excuse to lose 22 straight conference games, someone can maybe explain to me why he completely flipped rosters after his first year and it's probably an obvious reason and I just checked out on basketball early last year, I just thought that wasn't a great way to start your contract by starting from scratch twice. He shouldn't be on the hot seat and I think he'll get things going the right way I just don't like the lack of continuity within a roster.
Covid isn't an excuse to lose 22 straight conference games, someone can maybe explain to me why he completely flipped rosters after his first year and it's probably an obvious reason and I just checked out on basketball early last year, I just thought that wasn't a great way to start your contract by starting from scratch twice. He shouldn't be on the hot seat and I think he'll get things going the right way I just don't like the lack of continuity within a roster.
Who had the most 4 star players on its roster in the West division when Frost took over?
Frost didn’t take over Alabama. That’s for sure. But he is, and no doubt will continue to be a failure. The excuses this upcoming year will be amusing.
Let’s see where Nebrasketball is at this time next year. If the team still looks lost I’ll be concerned.
Fred literally had nothing. If Riley left it so bad why are we celebrating some of Riley’s recruits coming back their senior year and saying they are the leaders?
Some will go to great lengths to make excuses for Frost. After yet another dismal year in year 4 the spin will be we are finally ridding ourselves of the “Riley culture.”
It does not take long to turn over a basketball roster and while he may have a roster of 12, it only takes a couple difference makers to get good fast.