Lohr walking on
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Walk on's have always been appreciated by Nebraska fans, when we were great and now when we are bad. Also not sure how you think walk on's will need to "fill spots". We will have a full class this year and are over the 85 scholarship limit. The only walk on currently in the two deep is Reimer, who is a beast.
Here's what's interesting about walk-ons. They can play a bit and you never know which kids will develop to their greatest potential, whether it's a walk-on or a 4 stars. Both wash out. Some get injured and others aren't mentally cut out for it. So we have a bunch of walk ons, and a small number of them will become something special. That's not to say you build an entire team of walk ons, but 17 and 18 yo kids will be entirely different as 20-22 yo, physically and from a maturity standpoint. At the end of their career at NU, was anyone lamenting that Spencer Long, Andy Janovich or Sam Koch? No, you'd re-evaluate them as high 4 stars. My point being, it's stupid to poo poo on walk-ons because we'd rather have at 4 and 5s. That ain't gonna happen! Develop the guys who love the game.
He actually played a Hybrid OLB position on defense at Jenks. It will be interesting to see if he grows anymore. He's only 5'11 180. His dad played at 6'2 280.
The only misses this staff have made are at the WR spot. And attrition happens everywhere. Hell, Northwestern has 8 guys from their two deep transferring this offseason.
Not exactly agreeing with you on this one. Running back and QB are not what I would call hits. We also need a rush end , or outside LB ...
I guess I missed where walk ons were starting at Outside Linebacker.
I must have also missed where Nebraska needed a walk on QB to play over their former 4-Star top 100 player who was a Freshman All-American and is on pace to break the Big Ten record for total offense and completion percentage.
RB has to be better, but in 2019 and 2020, walk on running backs totaled 26 carries in 20 games.
You bashed walk-ons claiming they are needed to fill gaps left in place due to poor recruiting. That's not indicative of Nebraska football in 2020 - 2021 outside of WR.
In fact, Frost's recruiting has completely changed that reality.
In 2015, Jack Gangwish and Ross Dzuris were starting Defensive End. In 2016, Dzuris lead the team in Sacks. Vs. Ohio State in 2016, Nebraska started Cole Conrad, Sam Hahn, Dylan Utter on the offensive line.
In 2017, Tyler Hoppes was 3rd on the team in TD catches and Chris Weber was the leading tackler.
That sad reality will be a forgotten memory in 2021. You need to find another narrative to attach your melodrama.
Nebraska has had at least 25 scholarship players transfer in the last 13 months. The most in the Big 10 west and 2nd only to Maryland in the conference .
That’s not even counting guys like Gebbia, Avery Roberts and others cuz that puts it closer to 35-40. The teams in the conference with the fewest have had better success....this isn't rocket science and ain't no sugar coating it.
Then you say the only misses are at WR...are you crazy. What about QB's, pass rushers, running backs, LB's?
What we been running out there so far won't even win the 6A high school championship in Florida.....FACTS!!
Let's not kid ourselves with completion percentage. It's a garbage statistic of the short pass offense.
I'm going to guess that he'll grow in to a linebacker given his dad's mature size. I love having legacy kids walking on.
There may only be one on the 2 deep but we had several guys play a lot and make impactful plays. One WR scored a TD and another kid was in on a blocked punt and recovery. What walk ons bring to the table is depth more than anything. Every now and then you'll find a kid like Reimers who is a good starter but it's that 3rd string walk on who is always there to plug a hole when you have a rash of injuries or in the case of this spring when a scholarship player transfers. We were close to having a backfield late last year that included both a walk on QB and RB. We had TWO walk on QBs on the travel roster for Rutgers. I'm not sure but I think we would have seen Masker if Adrian had gone down with an injury.
Not unless it is good competition on both sides. Just having numbers doesn't mean a thing except you can afford to feed them.
Lets not kid ourselves.
He and Frost led the number 2 offense in the Big Ten when he was a freshman and they had a big ten offensive line and some playmakers that fit his strengths.
Talent is better for 2021 now with 4 top 100 guys that will be part of regular offensive rotation. There is a a very strong possibility (I would call it a likely hood) both offense and defense will be in top 4 in big ten in YPG.
This is why you see Moos talking about expectations. He wasn't an idiot in 2019 when he made the 6-6 comment and he is not an idiot not talking about winning the West and competing for a Big Ten championship.
This will be a talented roster and if Frost can coach (I believe he can) you will see that.
I was telling a friend I wish we could get more legacy kids who are P5 scholarship talent. We’ve missed on a couple. Hope there are some more coming along in the near future.
I’m hoping Javin Wright can make an impact if he can stay healthy now.
I love walkon's.
I remember a few old scholarships guys saying that they worked harder because they didn't want to get past up by the walkons and they could see how hard the walkons were working.
Here are walkons and former walkons that have showed up this years Participation report.
Hixon(8),Warner(8),Falke(8),Belt(8),Liewer(8),Mueller(8),Culp(8),
Przystrup(8),
Pieper(7)
Reimer(6),Jackson(6),Otte(6)
Martin(5)
Sanford(4),Fiest(4)
Crawford(3)
Lingefelter(2),Jewitt(2)
Weinmaster(1)
That's 19 players and that doesn't include other guys who may have been on the travel roster but didn't get in the games like Masker&Miller&Nouili etc.
I remember a few old scholarships guys saying that they worked harder because they didn't want to get past up by the walkons and they could see how hard the walkons were working.
Here are walkons and former walkons that have showed up this years Participation report.
Hixon(8),Warner(8),Falke(8),Belt(8),Liewer(8),Mueller(8),Culp(8),
Przystrup(8),
Pieper(7)
Reimer(6),Jackson(6),Otte(6)
Martin(5)
Sanford(4),Fiest(4)
Crawford(3)
Lingefelter(2),Jewitt(2)
Weinmaster(1)
That's 19 players and that doesn't include other guys who may have been on the travel roster but didn't get in the games like Masker&Miller&Nouili etc.
I would be a lot more concerned about QB depth if we didn't have Masker and Miller on the team right now. Just for practice's sake, we really need 6 QBs on the roster. There's some really good players on your list who filled important roles.
I like walk ons but I do worry about our huge roster. There have been reports of practice being a disorganized cluster at times. Is it helping us win games? I think there is a point of diminishing returns and we've gotta be close.
We have got to have the #1 rated walk on class in the country. Didn't Cally restrict the number of walk once because they were taking too much of the coaches time for guys that would never see the field. Wonder if that could be part of the problem now. Too many players to properly coach when many of them will never play.
I find it interesting that it's is lamented that kids are leaving or not planning out. The best program in Lincoln has felt with this for years. Cook recruits. Players come and go. Transfers come in and conference championships and National Championships are won and nobody makes a big deal of it. This year's team starts two players that started out in other programs. That's 33% of the starters.
Yes and then they Remodeled the locker room and training table , had no room for walk-ons