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73 Red I

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Nov 25, 2007
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The main leaders for not wanting to play bowl game are no longer in program: Mat Farniok, Warner, Robinson and Luke. Little Farniok probably left as fall out with Matt's position on player. ( Will leaving is my speculation)
 
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why the hell would frost give them any kind of voice in the decision

for someone who knew early and often who was bought in and who wasn't, this doesn't really jive
 

Headcard

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Feb 2, 2005
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The main leaders for not wanting to play bowl game are no longer in program: Mat Farniok, Warner, Robinson and Luke. Little Farniok probably left as fall out with Matt's position on player. ( Will leaving is my speculation)

This does not surprise me in the least.
 

73 Red I

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Nov 25, 2007
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why the hell would frost give them any kind of voice in the decision

for someone who knew early and often who was bought in and who wasn't, this doesn't really jive
Remember when Robinson and Luke came in how vocal they were and people were excited about their leadership? This last year the D was older and the O pretty young except for some linemen. You see the older mature guys returning on D and the young guns off to fulfill their dreams.
 

CatColumbia

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Apr 19, 2014
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why the hell would frost give them any kind of voice in the decision

for someone who knew early and often who was bought in and who wasn't, this doesn't really jive

Frost thought they would have voted to play. Those close to the program say that if Frost had to do it over he would not leave it to a vote.
 

Huskerz99

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Oct 27, 2019
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Another bad look for Frost. Letting guys who were leaving make the rules. Many of us saw this vote on playing in a bowl for what it was.
 
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Remember when Robinson and Luke came in how vocal they were and people were excited about their leadership? This last year the D was older and the O pretty young except for some linemen. You see the older mature guys returning on D and the young guns off to fulfill their dreams.
I would say it's curious to see the losingest QB in Husker history's name absent from the list.

but, then again, he couldn't lead ants to a wedding cake, so I'm sure he just kept to himself.
 
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Another bad look for Frost. Letting guys who were leaving make the rules. Many of us saw this vote on playing in a bowl for what it was.
I think you may be looking at this backwards. I took it as cycling them out because of their unwillingness to play
 

Huskerz99

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I think you may be looking at this backwards. I took it as cycling them out because of their unwillingness to play
We didn’t have other guys who could play? Don’t we have the largest roster in the nation? So we let 4 guy leaving decide?
 

73 Red I

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Nov 25, 2007
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I would say it's curious to see the losingest QB in Husker history's name absent from the list.

but, then again, he couldn't lead ants to a wedding cake, so I'm sure he just kept to himself.
I think we know your position on AM. Give it a rest. You'll drive yourself crazy.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Aug 8, 2014
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If Frost let the votes of a few disgruntled players dictate team decisions then he should follow them out the door

this is the program “leader” throwing players under the bus yet again
 

V1nufanx4

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Maybe I’m not remembering the scenario clearly.... but for Rutgers game, didn’t Luke come out dressed for pregame warmups but at game time was dressed in sweats? No real reason given other than maybe stating he was ‘unavailable’?
Fast forward to yesterday and among Luke’s farewell message was, ‘I have been struggling with this decision for weeks.......’.
So did he inform coaches prior to kickoff that he was a no go than? If so, they knew of 1 no vote already for the bowl game so it was easy for the other offensive players to vote that way as well.
 

Wyldcard

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Feb 12, 2018
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why the hell would frost give them any kind of voice in the decision

for someone who knew early and often who was bought in and who wasn't, this doesn't really jive
Because of the Covid thing as had this not even been around, there would be no choice and those players wouldn't have voted against it. Frost is weeding out the disension in the locker room and is pretty much all gone now. 1 heart, 1 mind, 1 team and now the culture can grow.
 

HuskerLove

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Sep 22, 2018
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If this is actually true, that’s a terrible look when you consider that two of these ‘culture killers’ were team captains this year.
 

TheBeav815

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Feb 19, 2007
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We gonna pretend like half a week of practice and one more loss was gonna flip the program?
 

CatColumbia

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Apr 19, 2014
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Because of the Covid thing as had this not even been around, there would be no choice and those players wouldn't have voted against it. Frost is weeding out the disension in the locker room and is pretty much all gone now. 1 heart, 1 mind, 1 team and now the culture can grow.

If it wasn’t for Covid we would not have had an opportunity to go to bowl game.
 

NUinnwks

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Aug 4, 2003
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Because of the Covid thing as had this not even been around, there would be no choice and those players wouldn't have voted against it. Frost is weeding out the disension in the locker room and is pretty much all gone now. 1 heart, 1 mind, 1 team and now the culture can grow.
Wildcard, is this that you are saying here about “weeding out” actually so or speculation? Not going blustery at all - but just wanting to know.
 

CatColumbia

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Apr 19, 2014
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We gonna pretend like half a week of practice and one more loss was gonna flip the program?

No but it’s a clear indication of who loves to play and who doesn’t. Just my opinion. I get it, a lot of other programs opted out but we’ve had 5 losing seasons in the past 6 years, we need to play as much as possible to get better.
 

phoenix4nu

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May 10, 2009
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Because of the Covid thing as had this not even been around, there would be no choice and those players wouldn't have voted against it. Frost is weeding out the disension in the locker room and is pretty much all gone now. 1 heart, 1 mind, 1 team and now the culture can grow.
No reason not to have a winning season this year then, correct?
 

Huskerz99

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Oct 27, 2019
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So frost needed to weed out Riley’s players now he needs to weed out his own? Okay. Makes sense. Yeah
 
Sep 29, 2001
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I would say it's curious to see the losingest QB in Husker history's name absent from the list.

but, then again, he couldn't lead ants to a wedding cake, so I'm sure he just kept to himself.
I hadn't thought about it that way before but it's statistically true that Adrian Martinez has lost more games as the starting QB than anyone else in Husker history since the days of Bob Devaney. A dubious record for sure. Now of course folks can argue until the cows come home whether or not Adrian was responsible for all those losses but statistically at least he was the starting QB for those games.
 
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I hadn't thought about it that way before but it's statistically true that Adrian Martinez has lost more games as the starting QB than anyone else in Husker history since the days of Bob Devaney. A dubious record for sure. Now of course folks can argue until the cows come home whether or not Adrian was responsible for all those losses but statistically at least he was the starting QB for those games.
with potentially 2 more full years to add to it!

forget NU, he might be the losingest QB in college football history when he unceremoniously is ushered out of town.
 

Wyldcard

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Feb 12, 2018
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If it wasn’t for Covid we would not have had an opportunity to go to bowl game.
I understand that, but because of the Covid thing players were given a choice when normally they wouldn't have had a choice. There were several teams that opted out of playing in a bowl game and most of them had winning records.
 

TruHusker

All-Conference
Sep 21, 2001
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So help me understand the premise here. Two of the players who were recruited by Frost, and apparently well respected by their peers we're not buying into the culture?

Anyone who thinks there is always going to be a 100% no questions asked buy in to any organization or goal, is dreaming. There are degrees of buy in and dedication at best and relatively few in any group can dedicate themselves unabashedly to the culture.
 

Rare Wolf

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Oct 24, 2001
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Defense voted to play, offense voted not to play, that’s the divide of the lockeroom right now