It has to be the offense

MOHUSKER

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Defense has died in football.

2019 Alabama gave up 46 to LSU and lost and 48 to Auburn and lost.

2020 Alabama gave up 48 to Ole Miss and won and gave up 46 to Florida tonight and also won because they score.

We may long for the days of old, but it’s all about scoring now.

Scott needs to adjust, our defense played well enough in general to win 6, and possibly a 7th given the offense handed Illinois 17 points.

The offense has to get right, the current staff isn’t getting it done there, changes must be made.
 
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Comparing Florida and Alabama (without Waddle) to Nebraska is sad. Yes, Saban is smart and right as usual. The rules keep changing in favor of the offense. QB and WR play tonight was insane. I'd take Trask over Mac. Trevor Lawrence is amazing too.
 

MOHUSKER

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Funny thing, Trask was offered by basically nobody, a few FCS schools. Camped at Florida, got an offer and jumped. He was even a backup in high school to D’Eriq King who is now at Miami after transferring from Houston.
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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Funny thing, Trask was offered by basically nobody, a few FCS schools. Camped at Florida, got an offer and jumped. He was even a backup in high school to D’Eriq King who is now at Miami after transferring from Houston.

even last year, it often looked like he had a noodle for an arm, which I assume is why he wasn't the starter at the beginning of the season. I would not say that's the case this year.
 

oldjar07

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Defense has died in football.

2019 Alabama gave up 46 to LSU and lost and 48 to Auburn and lost.

2020 Alabama gave up 48 to Ole Miss and won and gave up 46 to Florida tonight and also won because they score.

We may long for the days of old, but it’s all about scoring now.

Scott needs to adjust, our defense played well enough in general to win 6, and possibly a 7th given the offense handed Illinois 17 points.

The offense has to get right, the current staff isn’t getting it done there, changes must be made.
BS, just because Alabama has an amazing offense doesn’t mean defense is dead. And Saban has let the Alabama defense slip a bit. Some of the things Alabama gave up to Florida, Saban would have thrown a hissy fit in prior years. It hasn't phased him this year, but Alabama's defense may well end up costing them a title this year. We'll see.
 

oldjar07

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Comparing Florida and Alabama (without Waddle) to Nebraska is sad. Yes, Saban is smart and right as usual. The rules keep changing in favor of the offense. QB and WR play tonight was insane. I'd take Trask over Mac. Trevor Lawrence is amazing too.
The wide receiver position has definitely made a comeback in college football. Devonta Smith should win the Heisman and it shouldn't be close imo. Now that every receiver wears gloves and with better grip on the ball, you can put your best athletes at the position and not have to worry about them dropping the ball. When Frost came here, I really thought we'd be able to get some stud receivers here, but instead we recruited nothing but midget receivers in the first few classes and most ended up flaming out.
 

dinglefritz

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Good news! high school defensive position coach has weighed in. We can all go home now.
 

Hard4Corn

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Every time I have watched a little bit of Bama football, Najee Harris has looked like the best player on the team by quite a margin. Yet last night they kept talking about the QB and receiver as possible Heisman winners. I still think Lawrence is the best player in college though.
 

oldjar07

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Every time I have watched a little bit of Bama football, Najee Harris has looked like the best player on the team by quite a margin. Yet last night they kept talking about the QB and receiver as possible Heisman winners. I still think Lawrence is the best player in college though.
Their qb really isn't that great. All he has to do is throw it up and his receivers will come down with it. Pretty easy job. I think Devonta Smith is the best player in college football this year.
 

dinglefritz

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Their qb really isn't that great. All he has to do is throw it up and his receivers will come down with it. Pretty easy job. I think Devonta Smith is the best player in college football this year.
Did you even watch that game? Good Lord. He has great receivers but he also made some tremendous throws. He's a stud.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Did you even watch that game? Good Lord. He has great receivers but he also made some tremendous throws. He's a stud.
He's not the athlete Trask is imo. I think he will struggle in the NFL. I'd rank them
1) Lawrence
2) Fields
3) Lance
4)Trask
5)Wilson
6) Jones

I think all 6 go in the first round
 

huskerfan1414

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Smith and Harris are so good. All pro NFL good.

Bama RT is a stud run blocker, too. LG is too. Hell, their whole team is good. What’s new?
 

Jhollenbeck41

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I think it's extremely important here to note that we are NOT Bama, Clemson, tOSU, ND, or any other elite team you want to compare us to. We are also NOT in the SEC where they essentially play zero defense. Let's first work to compete in the West where we've essentially done nothing for the past decade besides get jail house raped by Wisconsin in the only Big 10 title game we've been in since joining this conference. Oh, and yeah, defense would have been nice to have in that game too. We're in the Big 10.....defense ABSOLUTELY matters in this conference......and until teams aren't good enough to carry our water coolers in the Big 10 anymore, or at very minimum in the West, yeah defense 100% matters. This is another terrible thread. SO glad the offseason is here.
 

MOHUSKER

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I think it's extremely important here to note that we are NOT Bama, Clemson, tOSU, ND, or any other elite team you want to compare us to. We are also NOT in the SEC where they essentially play zero defense. Let's first work to compete in the West where we've essentially done nothing for the past decade besides get jail house raped by Wisconsin in the only Big 10 title game we've been in since joining this conference. Oh, and yeah, defense would have been nice to have in that game too. We're in the Big 10.....defense ABSOLUTELY matters in this conference......and until teams aren't good enough to carry our water coolers in the Big 10 anymore, or at very minimum in the West, yeah defense 100% matters. This is another terrible thread. SO glad the offseason is here.

B10 Conference title game winning point totals

42
70
34
59
16
38
27
45
34
22

7/10 30+

Winning scores of CFP semifinal games
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42
37
38
24
31
54
24
45
30
63
29

9/12 30+, 5/12 40+

NCG winning scores
42
45
35
26
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42

5/6 30+, 4/6 40+

At Nebraska Scott has a 3-16 record when scoring under 30 and a 9-4 record 30+. Expand to his time at UCF and it’s 5-22 under 30 and 26-5 at 30+.

Offense is king in CFB and the NFL, unless Scott gets this team scoring 30+ every week we will continue to perform at a Purdue/Illinois level.
 

Jhollenbeck41

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B10 Conference title game winning point totals

42
70
34
59
16
38
27
45
34
22

7/10 30+

Winning scores of CFP semifinal games
59
42
37
38
24
31
54
24
45
30
63
29

9/12 30+, 5/12 40+

NCG winning scores
42
45
35
26
44
42

5/6 30+, 4/6 40+

At Nebraska Scott has a 3-16 record when scoring under 30 and a 9-4 record 30+. Expand to his time at UCF and it’s 5-22 under 30 and 26-5 at 30+.

Offense is king in CFB and the NFL, unless Scott gets this team scoring 30+ every week we will continue to perform at a Purdue/Illinois level.
Okay, in what world is it not okay to score a bunch of points and also have good defense? I get what you're saying but come on, be real. Fine, let's have track meets with everyone and have people ***** and moan about firing Chins even more than they do now....I'm sure that'll go over real well.
 

MOHUSKER

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Okay, in what world is it not okay to score a bunch of points and also have good defense? I get what you're saying but come on, be real. Fine, let's have track meets with everyone and have people ***** and moan about firing Chins even more than they do now....I'm sure that'll go over real well.

The defense played well enough to win 5 this year which would have us top 15/20 with wins over NW and Iowa. Scott’s offense is what is keeping us from being a top 25 program
 

Cornicator

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The defense played well enough to win 5 this year which would have us top 15/20 with wins over NW and Iowa. Scott’s offense is what is keeping us from being a top 25 program


Scott's offense needs to improve the skill position talent immensely. That's Frost's fault. In year 3, he never should've been walking into a season needing starts from Kade Warner and Levi Falck, while also having no experienced running backs after the starter goes down with injury.

But the offense "per se" isn't what's keeping Nebraska from being a top 25 program, its the following:

1. Turnover margin - Nebraska turns the ball over too much, and they don't force a lot.
2. Kickoff Coverage - Its one thing to not have a kicker to consistently kick touchbacks, but its an even bigger issue when your lane and leverage discipline is consistently pathetic, on every ******** return.
3. Kickoff Returns- For 3 straight seasons, Husker opponents have actually cost themselves field position by kicking touchbacks. If the ball goes into the end zone, then Nebraska gets the ball at the 25. If Nebraska attempts a return their average starting position is the 18 yard line.. That's mind blowing, and seems almost impossible for 3 seasons in a row.
4. Average Starting Field Position - This correlates with kickoff coverage and returns, but it truly effects the course of every football game. Teams start their possessions vs. Nebraska, on average around the 31 yard line. The Huskers average starting field position was the 22 in 2020. If each team has 8 possessions in a game, the opponent has 60 less yards per game to cover, on average.
5. Pre Snap and Alignment Penalties - I mean how in the ever living **** is this always a problem for Nebraska? Northwestern had 4 false starts from their offensive line all Fall. Nebraska commits close to 3 of those penalties per game.

6. Turnovers + bad field position already - Let's talk about the snowball effect of points 1 and 4 above. If I take over possession on my 15 yard line and then fumble two plays later at the 33, I have basically guaranteed the opponent with a competent kicker at least 3 points, and they're in great shape for 7 points. Nebraska has allowed 17 touchdown drives the last two seasons of 40 yards or less after a Husker turnover or a long return. in 2020, Nebraska allowed 56 points of this variety. That equals a touchdown per game.

If you remove that number, Nebraska's scoring defense goes down to 22 points per game, top 20 in the country. One other aspect of that number that's difficult to quantify is how many times did Nebraska leave points off the board on those drives. .


7. Red Zone offense - This was just a dumpster fire most of the season. Luke McCaffery really struggled mightily in the Red Zone. Martinez was better over the final 3 games, but just barely.
 

Jhollenbeck41

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The defense played well enough to win 5 this year which would have us top 15/20 with wins over NW and Iowa. Scott’s offense is what is keeping us from being a top 25 program
I agree. So, in turn, defense matters. I think it was Mike Shaeff on the radio a little bit ago, 1620, that said if Frost and the offense averaged just 4 TDs a game, we would have been 6-2. Crazy.
 

TampaBaySkers

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The defense played well enough to win 5 this year which would have us top 15/20 with wins over NW and Iowa. Scott’s offense is what is keeping us from being a top 25 program

100% agree. Will Frost ever learn how to make halftime adjustments, or will he continue to fail in this aspect?
 

Mr.Scary13

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Their qb really isn't that great. All he has to do is throw it up and his receivers will come down with it. Pretty easy job. I think Devonta Smith is the best player in college football this year.

BS. Jones is the best qb in the country this year hands down, including Lawrence. He handles pressure well and makes fantastic throws.
 

oldjar07

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The defense played well enough to win 5 this year which would have us top 15/20 with wins over NW and Iowa. Scott’s offense is what is keeping us from being a top 25 program
If the defense was good enough to win 5, then why didn't we?
 

oldjar07

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BS. Jones is the best qb in the country this year hands down, including Lawrence. He handles pressure well and makes fantastic throws.
His receivers make him look better than he is. He's a good qb, no doubt, but he's probably not even a top 5 qb and has a good chance of winning the Heisman.
 

Redscarlet

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That's not how it works. We have a defense that's good enough to go 3-5.

And the offense or special teams on offense cost Nebraska the Northwestern , Iowa and Minnesota games whether it was Martinez turnovers, a penalty or Frost play calling the defense played good enough winning those 3 games..
 

oldjar07

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And the offense or special teams on offense cost Nebraska the Northwestern , Iowa and Minnesota games whether it was Martinez turnovers, a penalty or Frost play calling the defense played good enough winning those 3 games..
Did we win those games? No. So did the defense play well enough? No.
 

Mr.Scary13

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His receivers make him look better than he is. He's a good qb, no doubt, but he's probably not even a top 5 qb and has a good chance of winning the Heisman.

Again. BS..... he has better numbers than Tua had in same amount of games. He is the best qb in college football this year. They have a ton of talent, but he's the reason they hum the way they do.
 

oldjar07

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Again. BS..... he has better numbers than Tua had in same amount of games. He is the best qb in college football this year. They have a ton of talent, but he's the reason they hum the way they do.
Tua was injured or played hurt much of his time at Alabama. When Tua was healthy, Alabama's offense was as good or better than it is this year.