How stubborn is Frost?

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Is he really that stubborn? I’ve seen him make changes to the roster and also to the coaching staff in his short time here. Maybe he’s a little more reluctant at QB since he had his own personal experience there. But I feel like he won’t ride AM much longer unless he steps up. I expect we see more and more young guys playing as the season progresses.
 

BuckysBoys1

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My opinion on QB. Frost knows that LM can not throw the ball, but the offense looks 10x better than when AM is in charge. If he makes the switch to LM and he flops then what. He doesn’t want to do the switching back and forth. And your two best QBs are both pissed off. And the team is divided.
 

HuskerLove

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My opinion on QB. Frost knows that LM can not throw the ball, but the offense looks 10x better than when AM is in charge. If he makes the switch to LM and he flops then what. He doesn’t want to do the switching back and forth. And your two best QBs are both pissed off. And the team is divided.
The stats say otherwise:

AM - 24/42 for 230 yards (57.1%)

LM - 16/21 for 148 yards (76.2%)


 
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My opinion on QB. Frost knows that LM can not throw the ball, but the offense looks 10x better than when AM is in charge. If he makes the switch to LM and he flops then what. He doesn’t want to do the switching back and forth. And your two best QBs are both pissed off. And the team is divided.
The ball McCaffrey threw 35-yards on a line while rolling to his left on a rainy November day against Iowa last year is the hardest throw any Nebraska QB will be asked to make.

That's only one pass, but he's also completed 75% of his other ones, so I'm not sure how anyone can label McCaffrey as unable to throw the ball at this point.
 

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I think he is trying to keep both players engaged and in a positive mood as best he can. Luke has more pedigree and athleticism to play multiple positions to get his touches and be part of the game plan even when not playing QB. Adrian has seemed to have lost any quickness and top end speed that showed his Freshman year and won't be able to contribute if he is not playing QB. There is going to be much more finality to Adrian's playing career if he is not the starting QB and Frost seems to be struggling to pull the trigger because of it.
 

HuskerLove

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I think he is trying to keep both players engaged and in a positive mood as best he can. Luke has more pedigree and athleticism to play multiple positions to get his touches and be part of the game plan even when not playing QB. Adrian has seemed to have lost any quickness and top end speed that showed his Freshman year and won't be able to contribute if he is not playing QB. There is going to be much more finality to Adrian's playing career if he is not the starting QB and Frost seems to be struggling to pull the trigger because of it.
This is big boy football and nobody should care about hurting someone's feelings by sitting them on the bench if there's another player at their position who is better. I can guarantee you that the Nick Saban's and Dabo Sweeney's of the world couldn't care less about this - it's all about stockpiling as much talent as you can and then make them compete against each other to prove who deserves the job.

If moved to backup, AM should show that he's a true competitor and try to win the starting job back.
 

Rick.Shaw1

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Is he really that stubborn? I’ve seen him make changes to the roster and also to the coaching staff in his short time here. Maybe he’s a little more reluctant at QB since he had his own personal experience there. But I feel like he won’t ride AM much longer unless he steps up. I expect we see more and more young guys playing as the season progresses.
Luke will start this week. Fearless prediction.
 
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The stats say otherwise:

AM - 24/42 for 230 yards (57.1%)

LM - 16/21 for 148 yards (76.2%)


Don’t agree with Luke not being able to throw the ball. He was certainly doing that against Northwestern and distributing just fine (other than the INT). Maybe they mean the deep ball? But we haven’t seen that all year. The deep ball remains to be seen.

If Luke starts then AM should be used in certain packages as a wingback because he can run the ball.
 

mgbreeze

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He could be the most stubborn human on the face of the planet, and I would still think he'd be getting desperate enough for a win to consider changes across the board. He's 1-7 in his last 8! It's panic time and he has to be feeling pressure to win a freaking game. Something needs to change.
 
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My opinion on QB. Frost knows that LM can not throw the ball, but the offense looks 10x better than when AM is in charge. If he makes the switch to LM and he flops then what. He doesn’t want to do the switching back and forth. And your two best QBs are both pissed off. And the team is divided.
That's last year's OLD opinion that LM can not throw the ball. Verduzco has said this fall that Luke made tremendous progress improving his throwing ability.

I don't know why either of the QB's should be pissed off if one or the other starts. Frost declared before the first game that they were both equal and capable of starting. So why shouldn't they both get chances?
 

jteten

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I’m quite sure he is doing what he thinks is best for immediate and long term success. Too much damn pressure to play with fire. I’m not a conspiracy theorist though.
 

TheBeav815

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My opinion on QB. Frost knows that LM can not throw the ball, but the offense looks 10x better than when AM is in charge. If he makes the switch to LM and he flops then what. He doesn’t want to do the switching back and forth. And your two best QBs are both pissed off. And the team is divided.
Oh yeah? And then what, they start losing games?

Don't look now but Adrian can't throw either.

Where Scott is stubborn is that he won't let go of the idea that he can scheme offensive production instead of forcing his guys to get good and execute some stuff. He thinks he has something on his play sheet that turns this offense into a nuclear arsenal.

He needs to admit he doesn't and start cultivating the run game. Teams have no fear of our RBs and they're forcing us into QB run game, which they know we don't really want to do.
 

TheBeav815

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Don’t agree with Luke not being able to throw the ball. He was certainly doing that against Northwestern and distributing just fine (other than the INT). Maybe they mean the deep ball? But we haven’t seen that all year. The deep ball remains to be seen.

If Luke starts then AM should be used in certain packages as a wingback because he can run the ball.
I think if you're standing around on a practice field, Luke has the lower ceiling in terms of pure passing accuracy. But you can throw that all out the window with the case of the yips that Adrian has had the last two years. He doesn't see it and he doesn't throw on time or very accurately.

Luke sees it, throws on time, and his ball leave something to be desired. Give me that guy over the Tanner Lee/Mitchell Trubisky "yeah but the potential is there" guy
 

otismotis08

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Oh yeah? And then what, they start losing games?

Don't look now but Adrian can't throw either.

Where Scott is stubborn is that he won't let go of the idea that he can scheme offensive production instead of forcing his guys to get good and execute some stuff. He thinks he has something on his play sheet that turns this offense into a nuclear arsenal.

He needs to admit he doesn't and start cultivating the run game. Teams have no fear of our RBs and they're forcing us into QB run game, which they know we don't really want to do.
I kind of think it's the opposite. We know that the QB run game is one of the only things we have going for us right now. There is no intermediate or deep passing threat, and the run game is meh. So teams defend the swing passes, clog up running lanes, and spy the QB. Easy peasy.
 

CatColumbia

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I wouldn’t say he’s stubborn, he does make changes. My complaint is that it often takes him too long to make in game adjustments. If you look at our first drives, we usually move the ball or score on the other team. Then once the opposing defense makes an adjustment, we start to see our $hitshow of an offense struggling to keep up. This has been going on for 2 years now.
 

jflores

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My take is the same as its always been. We're going to pay this cat in the ballpark of $30 or $40 million dollars because we believe he had some innate ability to get us where we need to go.

Let the man do his job how he thinks it should be done...its what we're paying him for. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

People hate micro managers but are not hesitant to micro manage.
 

Buff-alo

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My take is the same as its always been. We're going to pay this cat in the ballpark of $30 or $40 million dollars because we believe he had some innate ability to get us where we need to go.

Let the man do his job how he thinks it should be done...its what we're paying him for. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

People hate micro managers but are not hesitant to micro manage.
Well said