So how many here switched from Facebook to Parler?

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I do like the messenger aspect of Facebook and have kept that part active.
 

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So much for free speech.


Parler is just another site trying to make you angry so you stay on it for ad views. People complain about Facebook being too political yet want to go to a site that is 100% political? Makes no sense.

Parler has similar terms of service to twitter in that they can cut you off for basically any reason and change terms at their whim. They just have promises of warm hugs for disenfranchised conservatives right now.
 

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I switched to Parler. The censorship of conservatives in our nation is getting scary. We are on a slippery slope with this suppression of our 1st amendment rights. All should be concerned.
The 1st Amendment does not guarantee a platform; it simply says that Congress can pas no law abridging speech. Private entities have the right to decide what content is allowed or not.

Your rights are not being suppressed.
 

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Question for you (or anyone ITT): would you mind sharing an example of conservative opinion being censored by FB (excluding misinformation or dangerous content)?

A screenshot would be helpful, but please redact any identifying information (obviously).
Not tech savvy enough to add screen shot but I posted a Joe Biden quote that he made and fb flagged it. Quote was to the effect of having the most inclusive voter fraud organization. He said it, I heard it, they flagged it.
 

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So much for free speech.


Parler is just another site trying to make you angry so you stay on it for ad views. People complain about Facebook being too political yet want to go to a site that is 100% political? Makes no sense.
This is why I'll avoid it. You are dead on. Parler will be a bubble of one sided information true and false. That doesn't change the absolute fact that Facebook and Twitter actively interfered in our election by censoring true accurate information while allowing lies about conservatives as well as manipulated storys in an effort suppress one candidate and elevate another. No "media" outlet in America should have a political bias. The fact that ALL do is why journalism is dead.Regardless of how you voted, if you can't see that there is a bias and it does matter you are naive. No misinformation shouldn't be spread. However its not misinformation thats being stopped. Its correlating facts that prove nothing but should raise real questions that get censored. Seems like questioning what we are told to think is bad these days. Doesn't that alarm you?
 

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This is why I'll avoid it. You are dead on. Parler will be a bubble of one sided information true and false. That doesn't change the absolute fact that Facebook and Twitter actively interfered in our election by censoring true accurate information while allowing lies about conservatives as well as manipulated storys in an effort suppress one candidate and elevate another. No "media" outlet in America should have a political bias. The fact that ALL do is why journalism is dead.Regardless of how you voted, if you can't see that there is a bias and it does matter you are naive. No misinformation shouldn't be spread. However its not misinformation thats being stopped. Its correlating facts that prove nothing but should raise real questions that get censored. Seems like questioning what we are told to think is bad these days. Doesn't that alarm you?

You all do realize that media bias is not new. There were "Jefferson" papers and "Washington" papers and so forth 200 years ago? The Republic has gotten along just fine in a quarter millenia.
 

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CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Fox....all these are unabashed media organizations and are all biased. Folks hoping to pin Facebook into a media platform bin aren't going to get traction on any sort of bias issue they are hoping to "fix".
 

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You all do realize that media bias is not new. There were "Jefferson" papers and "Washington" papers and so forth 200 years ago? The Republic has gotten along just fine in a quarter millenia.

Media bias is not new but I think we can all agree that nobody needs a 24/7 news cycle. All is does is stress people out.
 

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Media bias is not new but I think we can all agree that nobody needs a 24/7 news cycle. All is does is stress people out.

The market will decide (and has decided).

You know why I'm not stressed out by the 24/7 news cycle? I know how to use a remote.
 
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The 1st Amendment does not guarantee a platform; it simply says that Congress can pas no law abridging speech. Private entities have the right to decide what content is allowed or not.

Your rights are not being suppressed.
I don't care if Twitter, Google and Facebook want to have a leftist point of view BUT I care a lot that they are being insulated from lawsuits by a special act of Congress which amounts to a defacto sanction as monopolies. They need to be forced to operate under the same rules as everybody else. And if rightists want to set up social media platforms under the same rules as Twitter and Facebook so be it. No problem for me that leftist and rightist social media platforms co-exist as long as the playing field is level. People can choose for themselves. Free choice and diversity of opinion are things we should all cherish.
 

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I don't care if Twitter, Google and Facebook want to have a leftist point of view BUT I care a lot that they are being insulated from lawsuits by a special act of Congress which amounts to a defacto sanction as monopolies. They need to be forced to operate under the same rules as everybody else. And if rightists want to set up social media platforms under the same rules as Twitter and Facebook so be it. No problem for me that leftist and rightist social media platforms co-exist as long as the playing field is level. People can choose for themselves. Free choice and diversity of opinion are things we should all cherish.
Diversity of opinion and facts are two different worlds.
 

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"No one can serve two masters," Jesus says in Matthew 6:24. "Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
ok. He didn't come to rebel against the Roman government nor change societal issues, especially through socialism
 

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You all do realize that media bias is not new. There were "Jefferson" papers and "Washington" papers and so forth 200 years ago? The Republic has gotten along just fine in a quarter millenia.
the scope of media has skyrocketed and many feel it is much more dangerous now
 

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The market will decide (and has decided).

You know why I'm not stressed out by the 24/7 news cycle? I know how to use a remote.
well, kinda hard when even sports and sports networks are saturated by it. What's next, the food network?
 

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Question for you (or anyone ITT): would you mind sharing an example of conservative opinion being censored by FB (excluding misinformation or dangerous content)?

A screenshot would be helpful, but please redact any identifying information (obviously).
There are people who are trying to accumulate physical evidence to do just that. It has to be done in real time though by hundreds if not thousands of trained technical people. You might be interested in reading a couple of books by New York Times best selling author Sharyl Attkisson. She's a 5 time Emmy Award winning NON-PARTISAN writer who has also won an Edward R. Murrow award. Her newest book discussing current events is called Slanted and will be out in hard cover November 24th. Stonewalled is her previous best selling book about the surveillance and intimidation of media members including those from CBS etal by the Obama administration.

You tread a dangerous path when you cease to question your government or news media.
 
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Question for you (or anyone ITT): would you mind sharing an example of conservative opinion being censored by FB (excluding misinformation or dangerous content)?

A screenshot would be helpful, but please redact any identifying information (obviously).
The California doctors that nailed the IFR of covid back in April.
 

rod med fluede

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Not tech savvy enough to add screen shot but I posted a Joe Biden quote that he made and fb flagged it. Quote was to the effect of having the most inclusive voter fraud organization. He said it, I heard it, they flagged it.

Many thanks. Are you talking about this?

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ote-fraud-claims-proliferate-on-social-media/

If so, we're talking about a manipulated video that's been circulated by Eric Trump, Kayleigh McEnany, etc in order to construct an obvious lie about Biden supporting voter fraud, yes?
 

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Many thanks. Are you talking about this?

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ote-fraud-claims-proliferate-on-social-media/

If so, we're talking about a manipulated video that's been circulated by Eric Trump, Kayleigh McEnany, etc in order to construct an obvious lie about Biden supporting voter fraud, yes?
I have heard at least half a dozen different excuses that people on the left used to make that sound like what youre describing it as. I just think he mis spoke. Does it mean there was no voter fraud? Absolutely not. Does it mean there is? Yes that has been confirmed. We just don't know to what extent.
 

rod med fluede

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There are people who are trying to accumulate physical evidence to do just that. It has to be done in real time though by hundreds if not thousands of trained technical people. You might be interested in reading a couple of books by New York Times best selling author Sharyl Attkisson. She's a time Emmy Award winning NON-PARTISAN writer who has also won an Edward R. Murrow award. Her newest book discussing current events is called Slanted and will be out in hard cover November 24th. Stonewalled is her previous best selling book about the surveillance and intimidation of media members including those from CBS etal by the Obama administration.

You tread a dangerous path when you cease to question your government or news media.

No question, I completely agree on your last point (doesn't everyone?)

Attkisson is a good recommendation, and I haven't read her work yet. But, doesn't she write mainly about biases in journalism? What makes the debate about social media interesting (at least to me) is that it's very different from journalism. Say what you will about anonymous sources in journalism but, by contrast, social media has no source validation practices whatsoever (just one example). As biased as the news media may be, IMO both a self-regulated and a non-regulated social media environment are much more dangerous. The question is... what do you do? 🤷‍♂️
 

BlackLivesMatter

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Facts = data or points of view that agrees with my opinion. Diversity of opinion = things I don't agree with. That's how the majority of people delineate between the two. Winking
No. Boo.
Facts = data or points of view that agrees with my opinion. Diversity of opinion = things I don't agree with. That's how the majority of people delineate between the two. Winking
Is that reply real life? It needs to be a meme.