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GBRforLife1

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Another week and now we are up to zero deaths in college and NFL football.

Don't they know cases are SPIKING!!!! It's a spike in a pandemic. It's insane how we keep playing with these zero deaths. With all these cases our hospitals are full. We'll be lucky if anyone has any grandparents left by Christmas, you don't care of you kill grandma you're just selfish and want football and now we have zero deaths 7+ weeks into the season.

 
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Read somewhere the last couple days that the CDC admits that about 120,000 deaths were not the sole reason of Covid 19... they had external influences!!! WOW, Who would have thought???? Trump is now only responsible for 80,000 deaths. Coming to a town near you.
 

steinek11

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Read somewhere the last couple days that the CDC admits that about 120,000 deaths were not the sole reason of Covid 19... they had external influences!!! WOW, Who would have thought???? Trump is now only responsible for 80,000 deaths. Coming to a town near you.
Just dumb. I wish we could all hide in our basements like sleepy Joe but it just isn't realistic. Virus is going to virus like it always has
 

GBRforLife1

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230 days to flatten the curve.

1 death is too many. Please disregard our track record at stopping deaths.

Wait 2 weeks. And then 4 weeks. And if you wear a mask we can have this under control in 6-8 weeks.

Kids rarely die or transmit to adults and teachers in other countries are fine, but we'd better keep ours closed just in case.

Meanwhile Florida totally eliminated restrictions 5 weeks ago yet hasn't had a "SPIKE!!!!!" in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths.
 

Mrs.Jeans15

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230 days to flatten the curve.

1 death is too many. Please disregard our track record at stopping deaths.

Wait 2 weeks. And then 4 weeks. And if you wear a mask we can have this under control in 6-8 weeks.

Kids rarely die or transmit to adults and teachers in other countries are fine, but we'd better keep ours closed just in case.

Meanwhile Florida totally eliminated restrictions 5 weeks ago yet hasn't had a "SPIKE!!!!!" in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths.

2 more weeks..lol
 
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Another week and now we are up to zero deaths in college and NFL football.

Don't they know cases are SPIKING!!!! It's a spike in a pandemic. It's insane how we keep playing with these zero deaths. With all these cases our hospitals are full. We'll be lucky if anyone has any grandparents left by Christmas, you don't care of you kill grandma you're just selfish and want football and now we have zero deaths 7+ weeks into the season.



Ok boomer
 

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In my best effort, I only wear a mask if required, re-use it every time, and generally live my life just as it was in February.

I am too old to be scared by this, too young to know better, and still healthy.
 

c3o

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Masks do nothing. Do not wear a facial suffocating device.
 

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Only 1500 people a year die of hypothermia in the US, that’s only .0005% of the US population. It gets better, the vast majority of those were wearing clothing such as hats, coats, shirts and pants. Clothing doesn’t help against the cold!

You sheep need to quit being afraid of the cold, 99.9995 percent of Americans survive it. Stop living in fear, shed your unconstitutionally mandated clothing and go swimming in a snow drift for a few hours, you are almost certain to survive.
 
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Only 1500 people a year die of hypothermia in the US, that’s only .0005% of the US population. It gets better, the vast majority of those were wearing clothing such as hats, coats, shirts and pants. Clothing doesn’t help against the cold!

You sheep need to quit being afraid of the cold, 99.9995 percent of Americans survive it. Stop living in fear, shed your unconstitutionally mandated clothing and go swimming in a snow drift for a few hours, you are almost certain to survive.

Ha. That’s so jmliar. Searches and searches for a smart analogy, and ends up looking even more jmliar than before.

Nice “like” derps
 

MOHUSKER

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Ha. That’s so jmliar. Searches and searches for a smart analogy, and ends up looking even more jmliar than before.

Nice “like” derps

Ooh, good one. OctavianDillhole aka Stinkin100.

 

dinglefritz

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230 days to flatten the curve.

1 death is too many. Please disregard our track record at stopping deaths.

Wait 2 weeks. And then 4 weeks. And if you wear a mask we can have this under control in 6-8 weeks.

Kids rarely die or transmit to adults and teachers in other countries are fine, but we'd better keep ours closed just in case.

Meanwhile Florida totally eliminated restrictions 5 weeks ago yet hasn't had a "SPIKE!!!!!" in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths.
We're seeing a rise in hospitalizations in seniors in our area primarily. Despite aggressive quarantining, it finally got in to the nursing homes. We've been told they're going to start vaccinating nursing home residents and staff within a couple of weeks. Right now they have isolation wards set up and residents are forced to stay in their rooms 24/7 as has been the case for months. I would rather get COVID and take my chances with dying than to have to endure that kind of cruel housing. You may as well be in solitary in prison.
 

Antwill

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We're seeing a rise in hospitalizations in seniors in our area primarily. Despite aggressive quarantining, it finally got in to the nursing homes. We've been told they're going to start vaccinating nursing home residents and staff within a couple of weeks. Right now they have isolation wards set up and residents are forced to stay in their rooms 24/7 as has been the case for months. I would rather get COVID and take my chances with dying than to have to endure that kind of cruel housing. You may as well be in solitary in prison.

This. The stories that are coming out of nursing homes about residents "failing to thrive" are numerous. Life in nursing homes was pretty tough before Covid. It is now about 100 times worse with the forced isolation. Like the rest of us, old folks need to be given a choice. Like I said in an earlier thread, many of the politicians pushing these lockdowns have no problem with euthanasia. Why won't they give these folks a choice on this?
 

GBRforLife1

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We're seeing a rise in hospitalizations in seniors in our area primarily. Despite aggressive quarantining, it finally got in to the nursing homes. We've been told they're going to start vaccinating nursing home residents and staff within a couple of weeks. Right now they have isolation wards set up and residents are forced to stay in their rooms 24/7 as has been the case for months. I would rather get COVID and take my chances with dying than to have to endure that kind of cruel housing. You may as well be in solitary in prison.

It's for your own good. The "health dept" decided so.
 

GBRforLife1

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Only 1500 people a year die of hypothermia in the US, that’s only .0005% of the US population. It gets better, the vast majority of those were wearing clothing such as hats, coats, shirts and pants. Clothing doesn’t help against the cold!

You sheep need to quit being afraid of the cold, 99.9995 percent of Americans survive it. Stop living in fear, shed your unconstitutionally mandated clothing and go swimming in a snow drift for a few hours, you are almost certain to survive.

I really want to have a beer with your some time and hear you tell jokes.
 
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Read somewhere the last couple days that the CDC admits that about 120,000 deaths were not the sole reason of Covid 19... they had external influences!!! WOW, Who would have thought???? Trump is now only responsible for 80,000 deaths. Coming to a town near you.

Most pathogen related deaths involve a comorbidity. No one dies of HIV/AIDS. The virus so compromises the immune system that they die of aggressive pneumonia or cancer or the like. But HIV/AIDS is still the but/for cause of their death. The person would not have died had he not been infected with HIV. It is the same with covid. The fact that there was a comorbidity doesn't change the fact that covid was the but/for cause of the deaths. If that stat is correct and not one of the cavalcade of lies promulgated by the nuts, then that is actually an extremely HIGH death rate for covid as the single morbidity.
 
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IMO it makes sense to do common sense things like wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing because there's not a lot of associated cost with those actions.

Mandatory lockdowns, however, like they are reinstating in Europe are just stupid IMO. The first lockdowns did nothing to eradicate the virus but they did have all kinds of collateral damage like increasing suicides, drug usage, crime/violence, etc. and of course wreaked the economy. So they did a lot of harm for at best just delaying more virus infections. That's what we've learned.

The common sense approach is a VOLUNTARY lockdown for the vulnerable (i.e, those having other health conditions, the elderly, nursing homes, etc.) but leaving all the other people under the age of 65 or so to go about their normal business who have an over 99% chance of recovery if they get the virus. Anybody at any age, of course, who wants to lock themselves down VOLUNTARILY can do so but let the vast majority of the less vulnerable people just do their thing.

JMO.
 

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IMO it makes sense to do common sense things like wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing because there's not a lot of associated cost with those actions.

Mandatory lockdowns, however, like they are reinstating in Europe are just stupid IMO. The first lockdowns did nothing to eradicate the virus but they did have all kinds of collateral damage like increasing suicides, drug usage, crime/violence, etc. and of course wreaked the economy. So they did a lot of harm for at best just delaying more virus infections. That's what we've learned.

The common sense approach is a VOLUNTARY lockdown for the vulnerable (i.e, those having other health conditions, the elderly, nursing homes, etc.) but leaving all the other people under the age of 65 or so to go about their normal business who have an over 99% chance of recovery if they get the virus. Anybody at any age, of course, who wants to lock themselves down VOLUNTARILY can do so but let the vast majority of the less vulnerable people just do their thing.

JMO.
You have a polite post. Not trying to bash you so don’t take it that way.

masks are more harm than good
we always have washed hands
If you’re sick, don’t get near people

We don’t need the government stripping freedoms over common sense measures
 

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IMO it makes sense to do common sense things like wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing because there's not a lot of associated cost with those actions.

Mandatory lockdowns, however, like they are reinstating in Europe are just stupid IMO. The first lockdowns did nothing to eradicate the virus but they did have all kinds of collateral damage like increasing suicides, drug usage, crime/violence, etc. and of course wreaked the economy. So they did a lot of harm for at best just delaying more virus infections. That's what we've learned.

The common sense approach is a VOLUNTARY lockdown for the vulnerable (i.e, those having other health conditions, the elderly, nursing homes, etc.) but leaving all the other people under the age of 65 or so to go about their normal business who have an over 99% chance of recovery if they get the virus. Anybody at any age, of course, who wants to lock themselves down VOLUNTARILY can do so but let the vast majority of the less vulnerable people just do their thing.

JMO.
Agree I am older and high risk but I feel I am smart enough to decide for myself how much risk I will take. Is it worth the risk to see my granddaughter, you bet. Do I need to go to a restaurant for a meal while wearing a mask no thanks. Washington state joined California in a group that will review any FDA approved vaccine themselves before allowing distribution. I wrote the governor and requested why he believes it is acceptable to play god with my life because he hates Trump. I can make my own decisions I don’t need some corrupt politicians faking they are looking out for me
 

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If Biden wins the US Will go into lockdown again because Europe is doing it and he would not want to be the only western country that didn’t and it will decimate the economy
 

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Another week and now we are up to zero deaths in college and NFL football.

Don't they know cases are SPIKING!!!! It's a spike in a pandemic. It's insane how we keep playing with these zero deaths. With all these cases our hospitals are full. We'll be lucky if anyone has any grandparents left by Christmas, you don't care of you kill grandma you're just selfish and want football and now we have zero deaths 7+ weeks into the season.



CDC says kids are 5-10 times more likely to die from the flu, chances of the Wuhan Virus is 1 in a million.
 

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Most pathogen related deaths involve a comorbidity. No one dies of HIV/AIDS. The virus so compromises the immune system that they die of aggressive pneumonia or cancer or the like. But HIV/AIDS is still the but/for cause of their death. The person would not have died had he not been infected with HIV. It is the same with covid. The fact that there was a comorbidity doesn't change the fact that covid was the but/for cause of the deaths. If that stat is correct and not one of the cavalcade of lies promulgated by the nuts, then that is actually an extremely HIGH death rate for covid as the single morbidity.
Or aids or cancer or wuhan or cardio diseaes or.....
Low hanging fruit, yes, it always leaves the tree first.

The fruit drops on its own when the time is right, or if diseased.

Its a battle, if you dont have alot to bring to the fight, youre likely to lose, regardless of what it is.
 

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Agree I am older and high risk but I feel I am smart enough to decide for myself how much risk I will take. Is it worth the risk to see my granddaughter, you bet. Do I need to go to a restaurant for a meal while wearing a mask no thanks. Washington state joined California in a group that will review any FDA approved vaccine themselves before allowing distribution. I wrote the governor and requested why he believes it is acceptable to play god with my life because he hates Trump. I can make my own decisions I don’t need some corrupt politicians faking they are looking out for me
But the only real bestest science only resides in those states Take second place to nobody.
Have those states pretested the chinese vaccine as well? Why not be first?
Are those governors xenophobes?

Im with ya bud, and hopefully they will be charged in any deaths due to delays in their decisions to play lord owner
 

steinek11

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Ha. That’s so jmliar. Searches and searches for a smart analogy, and ends up looking even more jmliar than before.

Nice “like” derps
You beat me to it. That was one of the more idiotic analogies I've ever heard. I am now stupider for having read it.
 

steinek11

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Most pathogen related deaths involve a comorbidity. No one dies of HIV/AIDS. The virus so compromises the immune system that they die of aggressive pneumonia or cancer or the like. But HIV/AIDS is still the but/for cause of their death. The person would not have died had he not been infected with HIV. It is the same with covid. The fact that there was a comorbidity doesn't change the fact that covid was the but/for cause of the deaths. If that stat is correct and not one of the cavalcade of lies promulgated by the nuts, then that is actually an extremely HIGH death rate for covid as the single morbidity.
I'll make this super simple for you. If you're under the age of 75, this whole virus is a nothingburger. If you're under 75 and not taking care of your health, you better make some changes. Protect those most vulnerable. The rest of you, quit being such pansies.
 

steinek11

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PCR is not a diagnosis

it amplifies DNA/RNA in a stool

This is to keep good people from voting
That's accurate and it's going to have the wrong effect. Republicans overwhelmingly are not worried about this virus, but Democrats are terrified of it. The difference in news from CNN versus Breitbart is shocking.
 
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That's accurate and it's going to have the wrong effect. Republicans overwhelmingly are not worried about this virus, but Democrats are terrified of it. The difference in news from CNN versus Breitbart is shocking.
Dems are terrified of their own shadow. They will be crying again when the red wave hits!! Again!!
 

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Most pathogen related deaths involve a comorbidity. No one dies of HIV/AIDS. The virus so compromises the immune system that they die of aggressive pneumonia or cancer or the like. But HIV/AIDS is still the but/for cause of their death. The person would not have died had he not been infected with HIV. It is the same with covid. The fact that there was a comorbidity doesn't change the fact that covid was the but/for cause of the deaths. If that stat is correct and not one of the cavalcade of lies promulgated by the nuts, then that is actually an extremely HIGH death rate for covid as the single morbidity.
Terrible analogy. Basically what you are saying is that COVID does the same thing in 2 or 3 weeks what HIV takes 20 years to do.
 
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I'll make this super simple for you. If you're under the age of 75, this whole virus is a nothingburger. If you're under 75 and not taking care of your health, you better make some changes. Protect those most vulnerable. The rest of you, quit being such pansies.

********. I don't know anyone who has died of covid and only one person who became really sick from from it. But I have 2 coworkers and one friend who had relatives die of it. One was my manager's 32 year old aunt or niece (I can't recall which way the relationship went) who was "healthy as a horse" and died 6 days after the diagnosis. Another was a co-workers mother, who was in her 50's. I don't know her health. The third was a good friend's cousin who was 44 and who did have mild asthma. You need to stop believing the crap.
 
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Terrible analogy. Basically what you are saying is that COVID does the same thing in 2 or 3 weeks what HIV takes 20 years to do.

Thanks doc. You proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all, we are talking comorbidity, not speed of mortality. Second, the analogy comes from my mother's cousin, who in addition to an M.D., has PhD's in public health and immunology (I think I mentioned him earlier on here and said one of his PhD's was in epidemiology; I was wrong on that, it's immunology). The guy worked for 20 years at the NIH and then went to Walter Reed as their top doc studying viral immunology. He has been retired for almost 7 years, writing SciFi novels, but was called back to help on this because of his extraordinary level of expertise in viral diseases. I'll take his analogy on what constitutes a comorbidity over your Google M.D. and confirmation bias.
 
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ChristmasBOnus

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Another week and now we are up to zero deaths in college and NFL football.

Don't they know cases are SPIKING!!!! It's a spike in a pandemic. It's insane how we keep playing with these zero deaths. With all these cases our hospitals are full. We'll be lucky if anyone has any grandparents left by Christmas, you don't care of you kill grandma you're just selfish and want football and now we have zero deaths 7+ weeks into the season.


But what about the High Schools? Did you include those cases also, smaller framed people may skew the matrix???
 

dinglefritz

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We are being totally scammed. More tests, more cases. Total friggin joke.


My wife has said that the quick tests being used are not always very accurate. PCR testing though on the other hand is pretty good. The problem with PCR testing though is that it will detect ANY viral genetic material, dead or alive. SO IF you have someone who has viral protein particles floating around still in their blood stream it may say they're still positive for the virus when in fact they aren't actively infected. There is some concern as well that the PCR test may detect closely related Corona viruses that aren't nearly as virulent as COVID. I haven't heard specifically of that happening in anybody I know.
 

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Thanks doc. You proved that you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all, we are talking comorbidity, not speed of mortality. Second, the analogy comes from my mother's cousin, who in addition to an M.D., has PhD's in public health and immunology (I think I mentioned him earlier on here and said one of his PhD's was in epidemiology; I was wrong on that, it's immunology). The guy worked for 20 years at the NIH and then went to Walter Reed as their top doc studying viral immunology. He has been retired for almost 7 years, writing SciFi novels, but was called back to help on this because of his extraordinary level of expertise in viral diseases. I'll take his analogy on what constitutes a comorbidity over your Google M.D. and confirmation bias. That's because I am intelligent.

Whenever someone feels the need to tell someone he is intelligent that pretty much always has the opposite effect of what was intended.
There is some concern as well that the PCR test may detect closely related Corona viruses that aren't nearly as virulent as COVID. I haven't heard specifically of that happening in anybody I know.

This could help explain why flu cases have went down 95%.
 

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********. I don't know anyone who has died of covid and only one person who became really sick from from it. But I have 2 coworkers and one friend who had relatives die of it. One was my manager's 32 year old aunt or niece (I can't recall which way the relationship went) who was "healthy as a horse" and died 6 days after the diagnosis. Another was a co-workers mother, who was in her 50's. I don't know her health. The third was a good friend's cousin who was 44 and who did have mild asthma. You need to stop believing the crap.
Whether he believes it is 75 year olds only or not, the dude is showing his true colors.

"I'll make this super simple for you. If you're under the age of 75, this whole virus is a nothingburger. If you're under 75 and not taking care of your health, you better make some changes. Protect those most vulnerable. The rest of you, quit being such pansies."

The fact is the virus is unpredictable. I just had a friend (40 years old) get it who has been bashing it from the get go. He was immobile for a week, and still has no sense of smell or taste. This is the problem I have with folks that continue to act like it is nothing.

Do you not care about the folks that are out of shape?

Do you not care about the people with prior conditions?

Cause that is what you are saying, because if you don't take precautions at all times and act like you only need to wear it around the sick, old and weak. You are going to give it to someone that totally doesn't give a **** and that person is going to infect the most vulnerable.

So when I hear people say things like this, I know you don't see the big picture. This isn't about being a pansy. This is a problem of people calling other people pansies for wanting to keep others safe. It's about people like you being shallow minded, and not seeing past their own personal situation. Get over yourself and understand this isn't about being tougher and stronger than the "pansy" liberals
 
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It's about people like you being a shallow minded, and not seeing past their own personal situation. Get over yourself and understand this isn't about being tougher and stronger than the "pansy" liberals

This is patently false. Lots of people see how the response to a virus that actually infects a minority of the population and causes serious complications in a very small percentage of the population is having a negative effect on THE ENTIRE population that far outweighs the impact of the virus itself.

There is no doubt that the cure has been worse than the disease. Standing up against the fear porn and for the people who have lost jobs, financial security, mental health, life experiences, time with loved ones, and on and on is not shallow-minded. It's the opposite.