Herman has his hands full at UT

Tarheelhusker

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I wouldn’t hesitate a second to stand for


puts a lump in my throat just to see & hear this.
 

schuele

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people watch sports to escape the bs for a minute.
when players realize this, it might be too late.
Sure, but the Texas players didn't demonstrate or make any sort of a scene - they just went to the locker room after a game that lasted 5 hours. Someone else turned this into a news story - not the players.
 

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Sure, but the Texas players didn't demonstrate or make any sort of a scene - they just went to the locker room after a game that lasted 5 hours. Someone else turned this into a news story - not the players.

Correct.

The reason it's a news story is because the Texas AD said they're going to be out there performing their tradition at the end of the games. And the players aren't going to do it.
 

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Ehlinger is the only one out there after the game as they play the eyes of Texas

 

schuele

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Correct.

The reason it's a news story is because the Texas AD said they're going to be out there performing their tradition at the end of the games. And the players aren't going to do it.
Nothing in the article says the players are refusing to stay for the song. They didn't stay for it after the OU game, some alumni got upset about it, and now the AD is making it mandatory.

I couldn't care less if UT never wins another game, and ends up scrapping the football program in favor of a men's glee club that does nothing but sing The Eyes of Texas. But this is a made-up controversy if there ever was one.
 

Tarheelhusker

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When the ship’s sinking, all the rats leave. Ehlinger still keeps theIr tradition. I just can’t see NEBRASKA leaving the field and fans.
GBR! USA # 1
 

schuele

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Players be like, make us.
When did any player say that? Herman's comments make it clear that the players had the option to either stay for the song, or not. They chose not to, probably in part because they just lost a 5-hour, 4-OT game.

Invented controversy, over something that nobody gives two ***** about it.
 

orclover11

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people watch sports to escape the bs for a minute.
when players realize this, it might be too late.
Players don't play for the people who are hoping to escape, never have, never will. They play for themselves, their families, and their teammates. If anyone in that group is disrespected the players will either passively or aggressively act against it. Sure it is a symbiotic relationship but no player is going to give blood and sweat to regime that has disrespected and denigrated their identity. The programs that realize this first will reap great rewards. Also, remember players don't get paid, their scholarships are worth the same or even less than a Doane Tiger. They should not care how much profit some exploiters make at the university and if a simpleton stops watching, so be it, a young kid is likely to fill his place.
 

Rcnut223

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The implication is they , the players , don't care or take pride in the School? . There level of play on Saturday indicates otherwise.

You can't win every game. Elite teams are rare now , Clemson, Bama and Ohio State few others, even OU once elite is 2-2 this year. LSU sucks

How about the once great teams FSU, Miami, Nebraska, USC, Tennesse, Michigan etc . Heck Texas was once part of the group as well.

It's just not the same as the past, never will be.
 

salsa red

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I think you can make professionals do this type of thing but unpaid college students its different. The team and the coaching staff need to decide what to do. The AD has some pull but making it public is probably a bad idea.
 

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Remember earlier in the year with the BLM movement at it's peak, several players and other athletes and students wanted "The Eyes of Texas" removed as the schools fight song. Claiming it is derogatory and has racist overtones.

Maybe there's a correlation between this article and the requests back then?
 

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Remember earlier in the year with the BLM movement at it's peak, several players and other athletes and students wanted "The Eyes of Texas" removed as the schools fight song. Claiming it is derogatory and has racist overtones.

Maybe there's a correlation between this article and the requests back then?

Alot of older fans are upset about the lack of unity, and most of the players left the field when it was played. Texas deserves every bad thing. I think we will learn more the longer were away from the Big12. Texas tried for a power play against Nebraska and A&M. I wish their institution every bad thing for destroying the BIG 8 and bringing the failed swc.
 
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When did any player say that? Herman's comments make it clear that the players had the option to either stay for the song, or not. They chose not to, probably in part because they just lost a 5-hour, 4-OT game.

Invented controversy, over something that nobody gives two ***** about it.
What the hell are you talking about??? Right from herman's mouth... “That said, some members of our program have concerns and aren’t comfortable participating at this time. I respect that as well,” Herman said. “This is an issue we will continue to have meaningful conversations about and will work through.” I think Herman has a better grasp on what's going on than some message board denier claiming they were 'tired'.
 

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What the hell are you talking about??? Right from herman's mouth... “That said, some members of our program have concerns and aren’t comfortable participating at this time. I respect that as well,” Herman said. “This is an issue we will continue to have meaningful conversations about and will work through.” I think Herman has a better grasp on what's going on than some message board denier claiming they were 'tired'.
Yes, according to Herman, the players' participation in this post-game "tradition" was completely optional. That is, until only one player chose to do it, and someone decided to post it on Twitter. Only then did the AD is say it is now mandatory.

Look, I get the controversy over the National Anthem. While I'm not personally offended when someone chooses to kneel or turn away, I understand why it upsets some people. But mustering fake outrage over Texas players deciding - with the blessing of their head coach - not to take part in the postgame singing of The Eyes of Texas is nothing more than tribal political dipshittery.
 

Redscarlet

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I do remember years ago in Omaha when the whorns lost the Championship game in the CWS they walked off the diamond without doing their famous Eyes of texas..:)
 

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I do remember years ago in Omaha when the whorns lost the Championship game in the CWS they walked off the diamond without doing their famous Eyes of texas..:)
I remember that too and put it squarely on their sore loser coach. When talking about Texas, there's one word that always jumps out to me. You hear them use the word 'deserve' a lot. Very entitled bunch in my opinion. Too much hubris and not enough respect for their opponents.
 

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Yes, according to Herman, the players' participation in this post-game "tradition" was completely optional. That is, until only one player chose to do it, and someone decided to post it on Twitter. Only then did the AD is say it is now mandatory.

Look, I get the controversy over the National Anthem. While I'm not personally offended when someone chooses to kneel or turn away, I understand why it upsets some people. But mustering fake outrage over Texas players deciding - with the blessing of their head coach - not to take part in the postgame singing of The Eyes of Texas is nothing more than tribal political dipshittery.
I think the point is, you are saying they didn’t stick around because they were tired due to the length of the game. But Hermann’s quote says that some are uncomfortable with the song. So it’s more than just being tired.

And what is Hermann supposed to say? If he attempted to say the players were wrong in not staying and singing, he’s gonna have a mutiny on his hands. He’s smart enough not to alienate his players. I do think this is a bigger deal than you are making it out to be, but that’s just my opinion.
 

schuele

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I think the point is, you are saying they didn’t stick around because they were tired due to the length of the game. But Hermann’s quote says that some are uncomfortable with the song. So it’s more than just being tired.

And what is Hermann supposed to say? If he attempted to say the players were wrong in not staying and singing, he’s gonna have a mutiny on his hands. He’s smart enough not to alienate his players. I do think this is a bigger deal than you are making it out to be, but that’s just my opinion.
I think the length of the game, and the fact that they lost, is the reason only one player took part in the song. Some have apparently declined to do it all season because they object to the song, but this was the first time so few players took part that it marked the end of Western Civilization. So if all but one Texas player was trying to stage some sort of big protest, why did it not escalate into Twitter fodder until they lost a 4 OT game?
 

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I think the length of the game, and the fact that they lost, is the reason only one player took part in the song. Some have apparently declined to do it all season because they object to the song, but this was the first time so few players took part that it marked the end of Western Civilization. So if all but one Texas player was trying to stage some sort of big protest, why did it not escalate into Twitter fodder until they lost a 4 OT game?
Good point, I don’t know what the other games looked like... how many stayed after the game to sing in previous games. That could tell a story as well.
 

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Nothing in the article says the players are refusing to stay for the song. They didn't stay for it after the OU game, some alumni got upset about it, and now the AD is making it mandatory.

I couldn't care less if UT never wins another game, and ends up scrapping the football program in favor of a men's glee club that does nothing but sing The Eyes of Texas. But this is a made-up controversy if there ever was one.
Except in Texas they ALWAYS have.
When the HC and star QB know it is expected do you really believe that many kids didn't think it was a big deal or forgot? They were making a statement-on purpose. The BLM movement has deemed the song racist for whatever reason.

I do believe it was more a deal that Herman doesnt encourage them to partake in it and this is more a jab at Herman by the AD who is pissed off about losing. Its kind of a "Get control of your team dammit" type of shot over the bow.
 
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Alot of older fans are upset about the lack of unity, and most of the players left the field when it was played. Texas deserves every bad thing. I think we will learn more the longer were away from the Big12. Texas tried for a power play against Nebraska and A&M. I wish their institution every bad thing for destroying the BIG 8 and bringing the failed swc.

Amen! I miss Texass like another hole in my head. We keep hearing from our fellow Big8 fans to "return". Returning to the great Texass conference destroyer......no thanks.