What about the Fox News polls that have also have Biden up? Are they suddenly an MSM/ left leaning organization?
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I knew you'd point that out. Clinton led Trump by 7 points in October 2016 Fox News polling. Do with this information what you will. The polls get it wildly wrong
The polls are scientific but they haven't really panned out when Trump is involved. He's currently outperforming his polling in almost every battleground state in 2016. It'll be interesting if the final outcome is the same this year.
Trump is polling poorly all over except for uneducated white males. I actually trust none of it. 2016 shows anything is possible. He will lose the popular vote by over 5 million but as we have said here the popular vote means zero. I hope like hell he loses and doesn't pout and say it was rigged. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls something out though
There are a great many things I don't like about Trump, and you hit on one of my top peeves: Drain the Swamp! First of all, I get the anger directed at Washington. Secondly, it's a perfectly fine goal to have, though it's considerably harder to achieve than any one person or administration is capable of doing. But anyone who believes that Washington is less corrupt because of Trump is an utter fool. The tit for tat, I don't like your guy so you criticize my guy, is diversion meant to avoid the bottom line: Washington is every bit as filthy as it ever was!
Uh huh, and the media is portraying registered democrats who voted for Hillary as "undecided."
Biden is not well and Kamala is awful. Trump might win bigger this year than he did in 2016.
Everyonr knows the college boy vote carries more weight than that of the ignorant blue collar hicks. Prolly clinging to their guns and ruh-li-jun, hanging on every word Rush says.
There are loads of X factors in the election; mail-in ballots, covid, the legality of ballot boxes, scandals and still more, all of which make the outcome very hard to predict. It's irrelevant how far ahead Biden is in national polling, it only matters how well he's doing in battleground states. But I'm with you, I am so ready for this nightmare to end. The people that say they like his policies but not the man fundamentally don't understand politics. There are big, sudden societal changes, but just as important are the subtle shift in values, attitudes, perceptions and relations.
One example: international relations. Loads of Republicans say they don't care what happens in X part of the world. The sentiment is easy to understand, but it really ignores the role the U.S. plays in the world, and how we have all benefited since WWII. Do you want the U.S. to set the agenda based on our value system, or that of China's? Do you want the U.S. to continue to be a refuge for foreign investment, which makes our country wealthier as a whole, or not? Do you want business relations to be dictated to us, or the other way around?
Republicans mistakenly believe that because Trump insults allies and buddies up to despots he has strengthened our place in the world, just the opposite. We're now more reviled than at any time in modern history, we're more isolated and worse still, investors don't know whether to make heads or tails of our political/business climate. We're a first world superpower acting like a developing nation. This is one of Trump's worst legacies!!! So much for "I don't like him personally, but I like that he's draining the swamp," crap.
This is the biggest load of liberal media garbage. You need some new material.
Do you even think about this crap before you type it?
The only people who buy into this garbage are the ones who feel guilty about the color of their skin. Total morons.
You may be right, but those Republicans largely aren't the ones who voted for him in 2016 or who will vote for him this time.
Truth is that it appears we have passed the point of being able to have compromise and collegiality in our political discourse. How else do you explain that not one dem voted to advance ACB out of committee and that it is very likely not one will vote for her confirmation in the Senate?
Trump is still the candidate that is fighting against the establishment and status quo. We'll see if enough who voted for him last time won't do so this time. My sense is there are way more people like me who didn't vote for him last time because of our reservations who are completely on board now.
Trump is Trump, which means he is an American first and politician second (thankfully). He is exactly what the country needed 4 years ago, and exactly what the country needs for the next 4 years. Someone who will get things done regardless of the persona.
Trump aligned with the Republican party because – theoretically – that is the party that historically has pushed for the policies that need corrected to get the country back on track (and the establishment RINOs were weak candidates, making it easier to win the candidacy). Unfortunately, Trump has had to battle his own party nearly as much as he has the Democrat party just to accomplish what he has. While there are more Trump supporters in his own party than 4 years ago, there are not enough to take control from the elite / establishment.
Sasse does a lot of good things but cannot get away from the establishment circle. He could be a strong asset to Trump on healthcare and health insurance industries (he already is on the judiciary), but he prefers to feed at the trough of the establishment. If only he would work with Trump instead of against him…..
I don't just know these things, I'm immersed in them. Again, if you think they aren't true, it is your prerogative to lash out and live a life of ignorant bliss. But there is no question that investors care for stability, and Trump's policies are anything but. Foreign nations seek coalitions, and not even our allies can rely on us any more, thanks to the Donald. You've lived a sheltered life if you can't see the damage he has done. But you are supremely ignorant, after all. Do you live in a hut in the middle of the woods? My guess is you don't like these comments because the obliterate your pathetically small worldview. Big words hurt. Troglodytes like you need to pack your clown shoes and get the hell back to whatever puddle of ignorance from which you drink.
Husker Du, is that you? You guys should have your own little chatroom so that you can see who is the most condescending and pedantic.
What if I don't like the man personally, but like his policies, but at the same time, don't like his opponent AND his policies (and am seriously concerned about his worsening dementia. We all see it. We all see it)?
What does anyone care if European politicians don't like him? They've been getting over on us for years with unfair trade agreements and a failure to fund the UN and NATO at the levels they agreed to. We have been suckers. Screw them. Business people are still going to try and get deals done. Foreign investors still want the American market. They will respond positively to Trumps overtures that America is open for business. I am glad he is taking the lead in standing up to communist China. Are you paying any attention to what a bunch of criminal thugs they are? I don't have the time to outline China's offenses against every country and company that stands up to them. They love our weak diplomacy.
It that what bothers you? The feeling that you're being condescended to? So board members like you can hurl insults and invective all day long, but as soon as you get it thrown back in your face you retreat to condescending and pedantic? Talk about fragile.
Well, it wasn't directed at me, so that's not it.
It's just that the way you talk down to all us small town, fly-over-state, ignorant country folk is really ***-like and shows your self-perceived superior, cosmopolitan, west coast opinion.
It is a luxury you have to ignore international relations because you have lived your whole life in a super power nation. But how in the hell do you think we've maintained that position? Magic? A careless "I don't care what happens in China" attitude? Um, no. It's through the masterful use of carrot and stick diplomacy. And of course investors aren't going to suddenly disappear from one day to the next. It doesn't work like that. We're still the biggest and most powerful nation in the world, after all, but that has been weakened considerably these past four years. A shift in relations with Europe is hugely significant. Not only are they a competitor for business deals, but we have benefited from their dependence on our military. We need them, and other countries, to leverage China, which is absolutely the biggest threat to our future security. Trump doesn't project strength, he projects the comic bravado of a Hugo Chavez. That's hardly reassuring to our allies, nor can he be taken as a serious threat because he'll say any absurd thing that pops in his head.
He is indeed cruising to re-election. Sasse's only real threat to a second term was presented by Matt Innis, his primary challenger. The 2020 GOP primary results are set forth below:
Ben Sasse - 213,806 - 75.2%
Matt Innis - 70,406 - 24.8%
Sasse will easily win the general election - not by 50 percentage points but a comfortable margin nevertheless. He will represent Nebraska in the US Senate through 2026.
I'm from the same small town, fly-over-state, that all you folks are from. Do you think that everyone in Nebraska thinks exactly like you? Trump doesn't represent Nebraskans. He's a NY City real estate billionaire who's spent his life trashing your so-called values and insulting people like you and me to our faces. And you thank him for being honest. If not buying the garbage Trump is selling means that I'm superior, okay fine, I'm superior.
Doesn't change the fact that what he said is true. The Left has been saying it for years. Not to mention, he publicly criticizes his own Generals, FBI Director, and AG. To what end?
You may be from here, but you often share how you now live elsewhere and have developed a much broader worldview than the people you often debate on this board. It gets old fast.
Of course he doesn't represent everyone in the state, just most of us here support him. Do you think Joe Biden represents Nebraskans?
As I said in my earlier post, I did not vote for him in 2016 because I didn't believe he would do what he said. Now he has given me and thousands if not millions of doubters the proof that we need to support him this time around.
Actually, he's quite friendly in person...my girlfriend thought he was charming (her words). The lady in the Townhall thought he was handsome. Maybe you should attend a rally? Just a thought
No, I'm not disagreeing with the comments Sasse made, I'm just saying he gets very little credit in my book for making them. He could have made these comments at any point over the last four years, and he didn't. He does so now because he feels safe. I find that cowardly.
I asked Frost if I should I vote for Biden or Trump, and Frost said...."Is Biden better than what we already have"?
Trump it is.
Trump it is.
I think you are confusing Michael Bloomberg with Donald Trump. Bloomberg is the NYC billionaire who has no idea what it is like for the common person. Trump is the NYC billionaire who actually seeks to connect with the common person and knows what their life is like.
Oh we care about what happens with China, and plenty. That's why the US (Trump) led the charge to ban Huawei from establishing their 5G network here. It was painful for Britain, Australia and others to do so, but they followed suit. Deep down, they understand the threat of the Chinese surveillance community (ahem, CCP) to the sovereignty of their nations
Countries now understand that because of the Wuhan flu and unfair trade practices, it is too risky to have all of your eggs in their basket. As we decouple from China (not easily done, but happening) it makes supply chains more reliable and will strengthen the economies and relations with countries such as Vietman, India, Latin America, Indonesia and the mid east. They are also buyers of American military hardware and they will trade with us more. This is a good thing. So if a sourpuss like Merkel or a wimp like Trudeau fusses, so what? they're only hurting themselves. America is still in the lead.
I guess we all see what we want to see. From what I've witnessed, Trump is the guy who expects fawning praise, and if he doesn't get it he announces publicly that you and your community are human feces.
I have to respectfully disagree with you Pville. While I align myself with viewpoints on both sides of the aisle, Trump is not what America needs (now or ever again). He divides, mocks, disrespects, and is an egomaniac. He is a science denier and is anti environment. His stance on corporate taxes, ally groups, and international trade is sub standard and self serving. I think America deserves someone who truly is an American first and not a reality show host. Biden is not ideal, but Trump is unacceptable in my minority opinion (on this board).
I say to my friends all of the time. "Trump should not have said that or done that. That was stupid" But he kind of is what this country needs. It is refreshing to have a guy that is not on an apology tour, who will stand up for the constitution and the American way of life. So while he is obnoxious, he is getting the right kind of results and that is undeniable.
And remember this, consensus is NOT science and it's never 'settled'.
I voted for him because he is the better of two evils. If a Republican ever challenges him, I will vote the other way!
Sasse likes to badmouth Trump when he thinks it will be a good look for him, but when it comes down to nut crunching time, he always votes the party line. The party is Trump. I'm not aware of one single time Sasse has voted against one of Trump's policies regardless of how he tried to straddle the line about it.
That's fair. The traits you mention are just as prominent from the leadership "on the other side." Maybe more so, in some instances. I shake my head a lot with what Trump does and says, but then think of what he has accomplished from the big picture (kind of like with my kids....).
Not that anyone asked, but I have said the perfect President would be Andrew Yang - with some modifications.
He has the perfect intellect and character for the job, and was the only Democrat in the primary race that truly has an America First type of attitude. Unfortunately for me, he approached things from a left leaning viewpoint. If he offered solutions to the problems from a right-leaning approach, I think 80% of the country would feel good (10% on both sides would always be dissatisfied with anything). Basically, he was Trump in the Democrat party (outsider) but there was no way he could ever compete (and look at how he is shunned now).
“Ignorant blue collar hicks” and you wonder why there is division in this country
I don't believe Trump stands up for something he hasn't taken the time to understand.... I mean he may have skimmed the constitution once, maybe.
He is not getting results where I live.... Tax breaks and subsidized benefits for certain group in certain swing states does not constitute results in my opinion.
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