How many of you have actually listened to the lyrics of that song? What a beautiful thought and song. It's just too bad that BLM and that song are being linked together. BLM in no way shape or form lives up to the ideals of that song. You take all of the BLM imagery out during the playing of that song before games and it gets a whole bunch more uniting. BLM needs to LISTEN to and LIVE the message of that song.
Lift Every Voice and Sing.
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There was just a beautiful rendition of the Star Spangled Banner before the Vikings game by a black singing group with a few horns. There were very few players kneeling but of course the camera focused on them. Some players with locked arms. Showed one black staffer saluting the flag. I didn't catch their singing of Lift Every Voice And Sing. I think they maybe relied on the league version that was played earlier. I have ZERO problems with them singing Lift Every Voice before games. The kneeling during the anthem bothers me but whatever.
I absolutely can as long as they don't show a bunch of players with masks emblazoned with BLM. BLM is NOT a good representation of black people. It's divisive and has had a horrible effect on race relations.
Problem is there is nothing inherently “good” with a movement/party that can truly never stand for anything, or anything good either, without borrowing or stealing from someone else.
So as a stand alone, your on to something but putting a little gasoline in my cereal pretty much taints the whole thing fast.
An analogy to this would be if a person is pro- freedom of religion they put a GOP sticker on their helmet. The political entity is much more controversial than the message.
Honest question: beyond the one Breitbart article somebody posted here a few days ago, is anyone actually promoting Lift Every Voice and Sing as an alternative to the Star Spangled Banner? (Not a flame, I honestly haven't watched an NFL game and don't know where this is coming from.)
Right, but (and, again, sorry if this is obvious to everyone else), in what sense is this a protest exactly?
BLM: stop police killings of black men
NFL: would you stop making a scene during the national anthem if we played a song that black people like?
Breitbart: they're trying to replace the national anthem!
Husker fans on the internet: THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MARX WANTED
Dont know. But its deemed the black national anthem.
So we are going back to seperate but equal.
i can. because i believe black lives matter. and thats what i believe the patches and shirts represent. you choose to want to believe that BLM means an organization. millions and millions dont think BLM is an organization it is a belief. stop thinking of the letters BLM meaning a very small organization and start thinking it is a very large believe system and you will get over your fear
i think you know the answer to this one. it does go both ways. But if you are trying to compare the effects of the two have to be kidding right? there is nothing that can compare what racism has done to black people. why are you scared?
A person could, though, prove that they were racist if they spent a bunch of time complaining about innocuous gestures toward anti-racism on an anonymous message board somewhere. IDK, just spitballing.
True, but it’s pretty obvious from the posting content of some people that they clearly exhibit racist thoughts and tendencies.
Nothing like the white dude from the Dakotas (I think anyway) defining what is and isn’t good for black people.
If BLM mean so much and they apparently do....Ask yourself this, what black lives and how many are being lost and by whom?
So if there was a group of black people that wanted total segregation from white people, and a group of white people encouraged them, are they all racists?
Honest to god, I really just want to know if your impression is that someone is promoting Lift Every Voice and Sing as an alternative national anthem for black folks. If so, would you mind sharing the evidence? (Apologies if you were raising a completely unrelated hypothetical question).
BLM is an organization that proudly proclaims its belief that all black Americans should receive a guaranteed minimum income and “free” healthcare, schooling, food, real estate, gender reassignment surgery, and abortion; bring an “an end to all jails” as we know them; disrupt the traditional family; demand reparations on behalf of foreign nations; and form a “global liberation movement” that will “overturn US imperialism [and] capitalism.”
This is straight from BLM's leadership. It's more than a belief, it's a total transformation of the economy, criminal justice system, education system, healthcare and government.
All lives matter...BLM is a Marxist organization that is capitalizing on white guilt and politician's fear of being labeled "racist".
No, really though. It's harder than you might think to prove something doesn't exist. I noticed the Breitbart article someone posted the other day, but I'm specifically interested to know if anybody has seen actual evidence that the organization BLM was in any way involved with promoting an "alternative anthem for black Americans" to be played at NFL games as a means to achieve their goals.
Pretty please? If it's old news, surely there's one person with 30 seconds to spare on a Sunday afternoon. I promise, you all can get right back to bashing BLM and I won't ask any more questions.
Here, I'll throw one in for good measure. Er, uh... "if BLM mean so much and they apparently do....Ask yourself this, how come there's nobody protesting racial disparities in cardiovascular disease? rabble rabble!"
That is not “direct from BLM”, it is analysis from a “conservative think tank” that is a false narrative of their positions. At least source your BS positions.
Maybe that is the problem. Anytime anybody dares suggest to the black community how to improve their situation, they get shouted down. Black people are the ONLY minority that needs special attention - that “should” be a clue.Nothing like the white dude from the Dakotas (I think anyway) defining what is and isn’t good for black people.
I agree that when some people say BLM they may not be saying they support the formal BLM organization. There are a few BLM groups in the metro area that do not endorse all the beliefs of the BLM organization. They just want to see change in systematic racism and that law enforcement is held accountable when brutality occurs. When I say that I support Black Lives Matter, I am usually called a socialist, a left wing nut, a cop hater, a promoter of rioting and looting etc. Many people seem to want to group everyone together. I am caucasion and I support the effort for community unity and police accountability ( and yes citizen accountability). I support law enforcement; I stood on the roadside during Herrera's funeral procession. I attended a couple of unity rally this summer...where the focus was on police brutality. My inner circle/ family consists of retired law enforcement, blacks, and a gay. So I refuse to choose. And that seems to be a theme...choose a side. Either you are for police or you are for the side that is wanting more accountability when unwarranted brutality does occur...and want to see change in institutional racism. And God forbid if you
Maybe I'm missing your point. But the negro national anthem can be traced back to the NAACP in early 1900s. I can't tell you the exact date the song referred to by the OP was adopted as the alternate black national anthem. You can probably find all kinds of information on the internet. IF I am missing your point I apologise but I am not going to bother posting a bunch of links for something that's been old news with the NFL since July
Honesty here. I have a handful of relativity close relationship with black Americans and if my kids were young enough to need guardian if something happened to the wife and I, one couple in particular would be that. So my point is we're close AND respect each other. So if I disagree with things, does that make me racist when I would trust a black couple to be charge of raising my kids??
I don't think so and they don't think so either. But guarantee I'd be labeled racist by some one that knows nothing about me.
Now whose being judgmental.... which is the same
I follow you, buddy, and thanks for answering. Sorry if I wasn't clear: I wasn't asking if there's a connection between the NAACP and Lift Every Voice and Sing. I was asking if there's a connection between BLM and Lift Every Voice and Sing, since it's BLM that the OP credits with ruining the song, and it's BLM that everybody's been bashing in this and every other thread since Thursday's game.
Specifically: is BLM actually asking for a separate national anthem for black folks? That seems to be the accusation, but I haven't been able to find evidence. If true, I'd be both surprised and as outraged as the next guy (but it would be news to me).
Now that I know... thanks for the clarification.... your question (understand it anyway)... I would say no there is no DIRECT connect between BLM and what the NFL has done or the patches that ksu and maybe more wore Saturday.
There may be some things that need to be resolved and improved, but I don't like BLM as an organization. Too bad people think they are one and the same. Reform is one thing. BLM organization is not good
Nothing like the white dude from the Dakotas (I think anyway) defining what is and isn’t good for black people.
This is such 5th grade thinking. Plenty of "white dudes" and white folk that are liberals telling us all about black people and what's best for them, but that's not a problem, is it? How about the millions of black people that don't associate the BLM? Wait, don't tell me, they're "Uncle Tom's" and the white libs know better than they do. And "no," as far as I can tell, you don't "think" at all, ever. Do yourself a favor and shut it down.
The problem enters in when people give money to BLM and it supports something totally different than what most people think. BLM has turned in to nothing more than the Occupy Wall Street movement. Rich people and cops bad. Anarchy good. IF black lives truly mattered they would start in inner city neighborhoods policing all of the black youth killing each other. ONE neighborhood in Chicago did that. HOORAY for them!! They turned back a "BLM" march and as one mother put it, "all you people do is march in, stir up trouble and get our black babies killed. Get the hell out of here and go back to where you came from".
The white dude is not "from the Dakotas" and the white dude has a black niece and nephew. AND the white dude is the godfather of that niece. So F you whitey.Nothing like the white dude from the Dakotas (I think anyway) defining what is and isn’t good for black people.
National commentators generally from left leaning networks have dubbed it the black national anthem. The NFL ran video footage non-stop of people in BLM masks while the song played pregame today. Last night a Fox Sports telecast focused in on the BLM logo in the outfield fence of the Twins stadium and paired it with some awkward testimony from their announcers. I'm sorry. I've watched what BLM protestors did to black owned businesses and public property. I can't support their actions. NOBODY in their right mind believes that black lives don't matter. The problem is that the actions of the BLM movement have done more damage to race relations and black people IMO than anything we've seen in decades. All they did was justify prejudice. It makes me sick. I'm the proud godparent of 2 great young black adults. NOTHING good came from those protests. NOTHING.
Your last full sentence is wrong. It's not an either or. AND plain and simple, IF you're innocent, when a policeman tells you to do something you do it.