Maybe a vote this weekend
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IMO they need two votes. First vote should be whether they resume play as a conference. Second vote should come after that IF the first vote is a no. Then they should vote on whether to permit schools that want to play on their own this year to do so.
In any event they better not drag it out any longer or the decision gets made for them by the calendar.
In any event they better not drag it out any longer or the decision gets made for them by the calendar.
I agree, as there’s no guarantee that the no votes will vote to play before next season.
I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the fact we are not playing this year.
Will watch other conferences play every week, will watch NFL, will never stop thinking how much it sucks that we’re collateral damage in a political tug of war being waged by pencil-necked dweebs.
Will watch other conferences play every week, will watch NFL, will never stop thinking how much it sucks that we’re collateral damage in a political tug of war being waged by pencil-necked dweebs.
They need to stop the stupid vote bull crap and just let each team opt to play or opt out. End of story.
not at all - but I bet the lawyers fleecing the Nebraska parents are giddy to charge a bunch of legal fees to confirm what was known prior to all the legal work - at minimum all the PR that the state will eat up as a result of this process.
that the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of postponing and that the vote was 11-3
glad to know after all the legal wrangling they have smoked out that indeed the vote was 11-3
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Ohio legislatures are saying if B1G votes not to play let each school play their own schedule. #$%&# the conference
Exactly how it should be done at this point. It’s obvious some schools/teams aren’t down while some are.
I knew the fall season was really over when I heard Warren was in bed with the PAC12 commissioner. BIG 10 definitely needs an overhaul after this debacle.
Problem is Ohio legislatures aren’t going to convince the rest of the league to let the teams play that want to play..
They’ll be like children saying “we don’t want to play, so you, can’t play either”.
However other presidents stated that no vote occurred, then I believe Warren said the vote was 12-2 or something like that. So which was it, 11-3, 12-2 OR no vote at all. Several presidents have said publicly (I don't remember a vote taking place, or I'm not sure there was ever a vote, at least one that I was not part of). I think here lies the issue that everyone is having.
the original comment was the vote was overwhelming in favor of postponing
now if people want to spend a bunch of money to clarify what overwhelming entails - and whether it was 11-3 or 12-2 - I'm sure the lawyers are more than happy to take their money
They haven't "smoked out anything"
An affidavit from the Chair does not account for the governing bylaws of the committee which were not produced by the BIG in their entirety and the corresponding minutes or supporting documentation for arriving at the vote were not produced
Without transparency no one knows the truth for sure. What makes sense to me from what I've read is that there was some kind of poll taken but it did not follow the official rules for voting in the conference. Some people think it wasn't valid because it didn't follow the official rules. Could be why there are so many mixed message floating around.
So many differing comments were made about the ‘vote’. Not everyone is as easily swayed as you to accept the original comment, especially with the ambiguity provided by so many involved in the process.
My understanding is that a vote is required under B10 by-laws. The public confusion of whether a formal vote was undertaken in accordance with that requirement is apparently the main impetus for Tom Mars' multiple FOIA requests. They have to follow the by-laws.
Desmond Howard crying about this in 3........2........1........
Hmmm....... crickets.
My guess would be there will be not alot of talk about splitting up the teams into will/will nots. I don't believe there will be a spring season, but I do think there is a chance of a November start. I'm not alone. Moos seems to believe so too, and until he starts losing his **** that its a farce (he should see this coming as a member of the planning team), I'm going to lean that direction.
Essentially this will be a vote on an exhibition season vs a chance at getting OSU into the playoff.
Essentially this will be a vote on an exhibition season vs a chance at getting OSU into the playoff.
This is really the truth. Warren needs to be fired ASAP and B1G needs structural changes.
I mean, I don't have any problem with those kids raising whatever kind of hell they want with the league office. Have at it.
But the fundamental facts were this. They had complete uniformity of opinion from the 4th team punter up through the highest levels of administration in the NU system that there should be football. The coach and the higher administration stood with the players in early-mid August to fight for football. Football was postponed which was a bummer for those kids.
About a week later, one of their battle buddies, the biggest one mind you, went on record as saying there was a vote and he was a part of it.
I don't care what SirYacht says and all these other random bubbas are at other schools, if you are one of those 8 players, and your top guy who was in the trenches with you the week prior is not to be trusted, than I don't know what to tell you as a young man who just had his heart broken by the process. You go into that lawsuit knowing that you are essentially handing over money to find out probably minimal details beyond what already knew to be true from your own camp.
Yah there were several sports lawyers who were saying these kids had little to no standing to demand detailed decision making processes. The kids themselves are not members of the B1G, they are members of a school offering an extracurricular activity. A highly regulated and lucrative activity (one piece of which is the School belonging to a given conference with a set of bylaws), but one that that they have no fundamental right to participate in if the school is in compliance with league decisions regarding safety to play.
So essentially the 8 players are going to be handed a league rule book and a vote tally, both of which are pretty easy to produce, and probably at the last possible moment for good measure.
the judge already ruled the conf doesn't have to produce any minutes or medical info
just the preexisting bylaws and the vote count - the judge explicitly states that even who voted how does not need to be disclosed
no meeting minutes or any medical info produced to inform the vote needs to be produced
I note the elder McCaffrey is no longer part of the suit
I wonder if he was collared by his school/conference much in the same way Frost was
I wonder if he was collared by his school/conference much in the same way Frost was
Let em play. BIG owns media rights. What will the monetary gain for the schools that do play?? Would fox and other networks even want to deal with schools that do play because of contracts with BIG. Lots of details beyond what we see here to be settled before schools go independent.
If they vote to allow teams to play outside of the conference, I am going to assume the following:
No conference or league champions?
League officials, if they operate through the league contract, then what?
TV contracts, how does that all work?
How do teams fill out a schedule at this late date?
Would they be eligible for the league bowl tie ins which isn't a big deal?
I don't know, would seem to be a lot to overcome yet and at the place this is moving, we will all be in nursing homes by that time.
No conference or league champions?
League officials, if they operate through the league contract, then what?
TV contracts, how does that all work?
How do teams fill out a schedule at this late date?
Would they be eligible for the league bowl tie ins which isn't a big deal?
I don't know, would seem to be a lot to overcome yet and at the place this is moving, we will all be in nursing homes by that time.
Colorado just decided to reverse its prior decision and proceed with fall High School sports including football. Hope the B1G does the same
Let the teams that want to play, do so. IMO, don't worry about the TV deals and the financial fall out. It'll all be worked out once the teams are given a green light.
i never said go independent. The BIG 10 could still be involved with each BIG 10 team that chooses to play.
Lets say the Huskers, OSU, Iowa, PSU, Indiana, Purdue and Wisconsin all decide to play. Each team could play each other and then maybe add a non conference game or two on top of that (Or not). That would allow money for the conference and each team that plays. There are ways to do it, they just have to try. Instead they are making it harder then it needs to be.
Simply put, let each team make their own decisions. Once you have the numbers, who’s playing and who’s not, then roll from there.
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