SIAP....Have Scott or Fred made a statement...

[Spartanhusker]

.... about the horribleness of violence by police against black young men? If not,
WHY not?? 70-80% of their teams are young men of color who need a white voice standing for them.... they may be in some cases, a father figure...
Just me venting... why NOT be the strongest leader???

 

[Headcard]

I know Hoiberg did.

 

[Redscarlet]

Why do they need too..

 

[mwulf]

As the highest paid state employee who has a very large group of young black men under his guidance it certainly wouldn't hurt to make a statement

 

[Spartanhusker]

Why do they need too..

See Fred’s statement.... he has an incredible platform for not only change but relationships with his kids.

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

Should they also make a statement against the horrible violence against young black men caused by other young black men?

 

[Suhrreal]

Should they also make a statement against the horrible violence against young black men caused by other young black men?

Come on bra. Use your head there. Not a good look.

 

[mgbreeze]

Should they also make a statement against the horrible violence against young black men caused by other young black men?

How about making a statement about dogs that bite young black men? Oh wait, that also doesn’t have anything to do with what happened to George Floyd.

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

94% of blacks are killed by other blacks. I’ve hardly ever heard anyone say anything about that. There are no riots to stop it. No speeches. Nothing. Not a thing. Why?

 

[Suhrreal]

94% of blacks are killed by other blacks. I’ve hardly ever heard anyone say anything about that. There are no riots to stop it. No speeches. Nothing. Not a thing. Why?

Who told you to respond this way? I'd stop listening to and respecting those people real fast.

 

[PCastro]

94% of blacks are killed by other blacks. I’ve hardly ever heard anyone say anything about that. There are no riots to stop it. No speeches. Nothing. Not a thing. Why?

Doesn’t fit the narrative. You gotta stick to the script. People aren’t ready to take on an entire conversation about everyone and all actions.

 

[RedMyMind]

The outrage and subsequent mandatory virtue signaling is pathetic. This isn't a race issue.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

You know what a lot of people don't care as much about now after watching out of control animals burn down the cities they live in? The event that started all this.

 

[Headcard]

Why do they need too..

KW seems to agree:

 

[jeans15]

Who told you to respond this way? I'd stop listening to and respecting those people real fast.

Why so you can.ignore 1000s of young black men being killed to feel.moral superiority by hating on a white person. Giving it more significance. Do you feel the same when a black person kills a white person?


What makes those lives so meaningless to you.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

Frost retweeted a statement by Tony Dungy. Hoiberg tweeted a statement in part because he has ties to Minnesota. Chancellor Green tweeted a statement on behalf of the University of Nebraska.

There are a great deal of assumptions being made right now regarding people who don't make statements. I understand that to a degree because a lot of those people are highly influential. At the same time I feel like assuming everyone is a racist unless they say they aren't every time someone else does something terrible is a ridiculous approach.

 

[Suhrreal]

Why so you can.ignore 1000s of young black men being killed to feel.moral superiority by hating on a white person. Giving it more significance. Do you feel the same when a black person kills a white person?


What makes those lives so meaningless to you.

Why is the entire point of the matter getting moved to blaming young black men? I see right through that type of argument for what it is. Those people have NOTHING to do with POLICE OFFICERS SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT killing people over minor issues. Is that a clear enough statement or do you have another subtly racist stat in your back pocket you'd like to drop?

 

[Suhrreal]

Frost retweeted a statement by Tony Dungy. Hoiberg tweeted a statement in part because he has ties to Minnesota. Chancellor Green tweeted a statement on behalf of the University of Nebraska.

There are a great deal of assumptions being made right now regarding people who don't make statements. I understand that to a degree because a lot of those people are highly influential. At the same time I feel like assuming everyone is a racist unless they say they aren't every time someone else does something terrible is a ridiculous approach.

It's not hard to see who the racists are by the type of arguments they make and parrot. They are just sad, misguided, uncultured people. Easily manipulated people. As recent events have shown us, people with poor futures in this country.

 

[Redscarlet]

See Fred’s statement.... he has an incredible platform for not only change but relationships with his kids.

That is their prerogative if they do or they don’t simple as that..

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Coaches should make a statement against ALL evil illegal acts. Including acts/advocacy by politicians and the media that go against our Constitution.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

It's not hard to see who the racists are by the type of arguments they make and parrot. They are just sad, misguided, uncultured people. Easily manipulated people. As recent events have shown us, people with poor futures in this country.

The notion of manipulation is something that I wouldn't use to describe one person over another.

Every one of us has been manipulated to some degree and every one is biased to some degree. That's human nature. I don't care how altruistic, empathetic, or utopia-centric an individual is, it's beyond our control.

Regardless, until people stop putting other people in differing groups there's always going to be a divide.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Not even a race thing

 

[Truehuskerfan]

I'm tired of hearing people feel they need to repeat the same outrage that everybody else has repeated. It's all the same stuff said in a different way. I really don't see why a football coach in Nebraska has to make a statement about what the police in Minnesota did to a black man. If he wants to, fine. But at this point, it's become more about virtue signaling-as if you need to let everybody know that you stand with 95% of everybody else condemning it.

 

[daddy mack]

.... about the horribleness of violence by police against black young men? If not,
WHY not?? 70-80% of their teams are young men of color who need a white voice standing for them.... they may be in some cases, a father figure...
Just me venting... why NOT be the strongest leader???

Why do they need too..

So throw Law enforcement , under the buss ST I would rather Suc then let this Disgraceful Hateful stereotyping of our local Heroes. What’s next kneeling to President Xi

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

People in public positions (like coaches, politicians, etc.) can and should make favorable supporting statements for equal justice. But getting real, political statements rarely have any lasting impact.

What needs to happen IMO to solve the problem is that local mayors (and in turn their police chiefs) clean up their local police departments to root out any police men or women that behave in a prejudicial manner. And the police all have records on their job behavior/performance so it's not really a secret as to who the offenders are. This is a local jurisdiction matter and that's the level of government where the problem needs to be solved. So everyone can/should insist on their mayors taking action. Vote them in or out based on their actions, not their speeches.

The perp in Minnesota had a track record of something like 17 complaints. So why was he still on the force? Who's responsible for that?

 

[Redscarlet]

So throw Law enforcement , under the buss ST I would rather Suc then let this Disgraceful Hateful stereotyping of our local Heroes. What’s next kneeling to President Xi

Wat

 

[RedMyMind]

Why is the entire point of the matter getting moved to blaming young black men? I see right through that type of argument for what it is. Those people have NOTHING to do with POLICE OFFICERS SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT killing people over minor issues. Is that a clear enough statement or do you have another subtly racist stat in your back pocket you'd like to drop?

police brutality isn't exclusively a black issue.

 

[Clemke32]

Look all I’m going to say here is that ALL lives matter... I hate that Mr.Floyd was killed by that officers actions, however his life is no more valuable then the two young officers who were killed at the hands of rioters, two officers that have not received any media attention from what i have seen, all those lives are equally valuable, regardless of the color of their skin... everyone can make statements, however there will never be any true change until there is true action, what that means is that the police force needs to weed out the bad cops, and hold those cops accountable just as they hold the general public accountable, stop circling the wagons around the horrible actions of bad cops... on the flip side the general public needs needs to join together and stand up for what is right, demand accountability. The riots will not change anything, it will only put the poultice in edge, pearly protests are fine stop looting building, stop throwing bricks of innocent animals (police horses) it makes no sense and gets no where... DO WHATS RIGHT and speak up when you see injustice

 

[TheBeav815]

Should we tell them most white people are killed by other white people? The vast majority of crimes are same race on same race. That's a non-point and BTW you don't have to choose only one. You can be in the "nobody should be killing people" camp and that's never an issue.

 

[RedMyMind]

Should we tell them most white people are killed by other white people? The vast majority of crimes are same race on same race. That's a non-point and BTW you don't have to choose only one. You can be in the "nobody should be killing people" camp and that's never an issue.

care to share details?

 

[frostonthegrass]

People in public positions (like coaches, politicians, etc.) can and should make favorable supporting statements for equal justice. But getting real, political statements rarely have any lasting impact.

What needs to happen IMO to solve the problem is that local mayors (and in turn their police chiefs) clean up their local police departments to root out any police men or women that behave in a prejudicial manner. And the police all have records on their job behavior/performance so it's not really a secret as to who the offenders are. This is a local jurisdiction matter and that's the level of government where the problem needs to be solved. So everyone can/should insist on their mayors taking action. Vote them in or out based on their actions, not their speeches.

The perp in Minnesota had a track record of something like 17 complaints. So why was he still on the force? Who's responsible for that?

Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar has come into the spotlight surrounding the George Floyd death, after it was discovered she once declined to prosecute the officer who was recorded kneeling on Floyd’s neck and that between 1999 and 2007, Klobuchar declined to press charges against more than a dozen officers accused of killing civilians.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar has come into the spotlight surrounding the George Floyd death, after it was discovered she once declined to prosecute the officer who was recorded kneeling on Floyd’s neck and that between 1999 and 2007, Klobuchar declined to press charges against more than a dozen officers accused of killing civilians.

The local prosecutor comes into play when a crime has been committed. so there's culpability for individual prosecutions or lack of them. I said elsewhere in another forum that Klobuchar is likely to be the politician most hurt by the Minnesota situation. She was criticized before for her role as prosecutor and this makes it all that much worse.

However as far as cleaning up the overall police force, that responsibility belongs to the mayor (and his or her appointed police chief). It really should never (or rarely) have to get to the prosecution stage if the mayor and police chief are doing their jobs.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

care to share details?

I'm a huge fan of @TheBeav815 . We are probably polar opposite on the political climate spectrum, but that is cool. For the most part I am here to talk football and we seem to agree more than we disagree on that aspect of life.

However, I tend to agree that we, as a people, become a little more outraged over things based on nothing more than what the media allows us to know. I hate that anyone loses their life as a result of police brutality or whatever. I feel sick watching that dude screaming for his life. But at the same time, I wonder why we don't have videos of a white, Hispanic, asian or whatever color human being abused by police or shot or killed by police, and why we don't, as a society, have this same sort of reaction when those lives are lost.

I absolutely HATE that situations exist, where a person's live is taken by police or any law enforcement. What I don't understand is how blowing **** up, stealing ****, breaking other ****, beating the hell out of others, or whatever, is going to make this situation any different, any better, any more/less just. I just have a hard time seeing how a dude getting a couple of 60" TVs is going to somehow make George Floyd's death any more tolerable for anyone.

Good luck to you all.

 

[Hyattea_rivals287115]

.... about the horribleness of violence by police against black young men? If not,
WHY not?? 70-80% of their teams are young men of color who need a white voice standing for them.... they may be in some cases, a father figure...
Just me venting... why NOT be the strongest leader???

I haven’t seen one but I am pretty sure they both made statements about the black dude beating the living **** out of elderly people in the old folks home because everyone has a Grandpa and Grandma.

Oh wait no they didn’t because no one cared.

get real man, what a joke post.

 

[mwulf]

 

[RedMyMind]

I'll never support any movement that is founded upon racism.

 

[huskerssalts]

Why is the entire point of the matter getting moved to blaming young black men? I see right through that type of argument for what it is. Those people have NOTHING to do with POLICE OFFICERS SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT killing people over minor issues. Is that a clear enough statement or do you have another subtly racist stat in your back pocket you'd like to drop?

I think he’s just asking why none of the other killings matter, black on black is ok, black on white is ok but white on black isn’t ok. The only one that does seem to matter is when a white guy kills a black guy but it fine for a black to kill A white or a black to kill a black. And I get the mans point, I have wondered the same thing myself. It should be just killing in general needs to stop and not only a certain way that’s bad?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

I'm just fascinated the way so many people who argued till they were blue in the face we have to lock the world down suddenly feel it's OK to go outside, and what lousy social distancing I see in all those rioters.

 

[RedMyMind]

I'm just fascinated the way so many people who argued till they were blue in the face we have to lock the world down suddenly feel it's OK to go outside, and what lousy social distancing I see in all those rioters.

now they are trying to kill everyones' grandma. Winking

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

now they are trying to kill everyones' grandma. Winking

Imagine being the coffee shop owner who was cited in Colorado for opening, or the salon owner in TX who was arrested, or the barber who had his lisc taken away for opening his shop.....watching all of this.