I like the last half of your post!!by that time, every sporting event will be viewed by zero spectators and the states of California, Oregon and Washington will have isolated themselves from the rest of society.
Sadly that’s probably what really needs to happen. blue hairs and babies stay home. The rest of us can probably fight off the virusNo blue hairs allowed
I understand this virus really doesn’t effects the younger ones nearly as bad as the elderlySadly that’s probably what really needs to happen. blue hairs and babies stay home. The rest of us can probably fight off the virus
The media went completely bat **** crazy over H1N1 as well, back in 2009. I specifically remember CNN sending Sanjay Gupta to Mexico because they were convinced they had found "Patient Zero" - a young boy who lived a couple of miles from a (gasp!) hog production facility that was surely going to infect the entire area. When he got there the kid had recovered and was out playing soccer with his friends, none of whom were afraid of getting sick.Interesting that the media would like you to believe the world is coming to an end and everyone is dying (gee, I can't imagine what the media's goal might be here).
The media went completely bat **** crazy over H1N1 as well, back in 2009. I specifically remember CNN sending Sanjay Gupta to Mexico because they were convinced they had found "Patient Zero" - a young boy who lived a couple of miles from a (gasp!) hog production facility that was surely going to infect the entire area. When he got there the kid had recovered and was out playing soccer with his friends, none of whom were afraid of getting sick.
Gee I doubt the media was trying to take down the President in 2009, and yet they ran constant stories about H1N1, many of which were way overblown.
So you think COVID-19 is the biggest daily news story in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Italy and numerous other countries because all of their media outlets are trying to take down Donald Trump?Yeah, because only 575,000 people died from H1N1. This board gets dumber every day.
Yeah your taking the high estimate of deaths from that virus. I’ve seen estimates as low as 150k. Honestly they don’t know the total casualties from that virus but what they do know is the mortality rate is very low, especially in the US. Only like 12k in total or something. Keep in mind, this is a virus that a good chunk of the population has had, many without even knowing it.Yeah, because only 575,000 people died from H1N1. This board gets dumber every day.
The point of my post was not to suggest that H1N1 wasn't a serious pandemic, because it was. But the news coverage of it was all over the place and confusing as all Hell if you paid attention to people who didn't know what they were talking about. And the same thing will happen when the next unfamiliar public health scare comes, regardless of who is in the White House.Yeah your taking the high estimate of deaths from that virus. I’ve seen estimates as low as 150k. Honestly they don’t know the total casualties from that virus but what they do know is the mortality rate is very low, especially in the US. Only like 12k in total or something. Keep in mind, this is a virus that a good chunk of the population has had, many without even knowing it.
how many people have died in car accidents? Should we all be afraid of the road and cars? The mortality rate for humans over all is 100%.
The point of my post was not to suggest that H1N1 wasn't a serious pandemic, because it was. But the news coverage of it was all over the place and confusing as all Hell if you paid attention to people who didn't know what they were talking about. And the same thing will happen when the next unfamiliar public health scare comes, regardless of who is in the White House.
So you think COVID-19 is the biggest daily news story in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Italy and numerous other countries because all of their media outlets are trying to take down Donald Trump?
Of course H1N1 was a serious pandemic, accounting for about 12,000 U.S. deaths over a one-year period. But a lot of the news stories about it were filled with misinformation on what people should or should not eat and where people should or should not travel. If anything, I think the media coverage of COVID-19 has been more informative and balanced, provided you listen to the public health experts and not TV and radio talking heads.
I totally agree with you. I'm just saying that media coverage of public health scares always ranges from science-based and informative to sensational and ridiculous, and probably always will. People have to be smart enough to filter out the nonsense.I’m sorry but I don’t think it’s a bad thing that the media makes us aware of these issues. They are important. That’s what the media is suppose to do. And once in a while they do their job by reporting the news vs making the news themselves
Yeah your taking the high estimate of deaths from that virus. I’ve seen estimates as low as 150k. Honestly they don’t know the total casualties from that virus but what they do know is the mortality rate is very low, especially in the US. Only like 12k in total or something. Keep in mind, this is a virus that a good chunk of the population has had, many without even knowing it.
how many people have died in car accidents? Should we all be afraid of the road and cars? The mortality rate for humans over all is 100%. We can’t live in fear. That’s why covid-19 is more dangerous because of the fear of it. Wash your hands. Be clean. You’ll probably be ok even if you get it
I agree with you - I want information about the virus and I want it proviNo, I'm commenting on how people are jumping on the media, but the information is mostly coming from scientists, that know these viruses. And people that deal with these viruses know that the Coronavirus has the potential to be very dangerous.
It has a very long incubation period (1-14 days, with cases up to 28 days; the common flu is 1-4 days) we have no antibodies on board right now, and potentially no vaccine for a year or more. And appears to have a mortality rate estimated at 3% or higher. 30 times higher than the normal flu.
The only person that is providing people with incorrect information is the guy in the White House. But he has stopped doing that since people in the U.S started dying. Hopefully he will continue to yield to scientists.
Again, if this virus were to make it through this flu season, go to the southern hemisphere for their flu season, with potentially hundreds of carriers, hundreds of thousands could die just as easily. And...if it makes it through that flu season, and comes back to the northern hemisphere next year, it won't be starting from just ONE origination point. There could be potentially hundreds of carriers. ONE carrier started a world wide crisis. Imagine what hundreds of carriers, or even thousands of carriers, at the start of the next flu season could do to a population.
Agree with you. I think the briefings that are being done now by public health experts are very informative and well done. Early on there were way too many people speaking under the cloak of authority who didn't know their butt from a hole in the ground about the virus, but things are improving on that front.No, I'm commenting on how people are jumping on the media, but the information is mostly coming from scientists, that know these viruses. And people that deal with these viruses know that the Coronavirus has the potential to be very dangerous.
It has a very long incubation period (1-14 days, with cases up to 28 days; the common flu is 1-4 days) we have no antibodies on board right now, and potentially no vaccine for a year or more. And appears to have a mortality rate estimated at 3% or higher. 30 times higher than the normal flu.
The only person that is providing people with incorrect information is the guy in the White House. But he has stopped doing that since people in the U.S started dying. Hopefully he will continue to yield to scientists.
Again, if this virus were to make it through this flu season, go to the southern hemisphere for their flu season, with potentially hundreds of carriers, hundreds of thousands could die just as easily. And...if it makes it through that flu season, and comes back to the northern hemisphere next year, it won't be starting from just ONE origination point. There could be potentially hundreds of carriers. ONE carrier started a world wide crisis. Imagine what hundreds of carriers, or even thousands of carriers, at the start of the next flu season could do to a population.
No, I'm commenting on how people are jumping on the media, but the information is mostly coming from scientists, that know these viruses. And people that deal with these viruses know that the Coronavirus has the potential to be very dangerous.
It has a very long incubation period (1-14 days, with cases up to 28 days; the common flu is 1-4 days) we have no antibodies on board right now, and potentially no vaccine for a year or more. And appears to have a mortality rate estimated at 3% or higher. 30 times higher than the normal flu.
The only person that is providing people with incorrect information is the guy in the White House. But he has stopped doing that since people in the U.S started dying. Hopefully he will continue to yield to scientists.
Again, if this virus were to make it through this flu season, go to the southern hemisphere for their flu season, with potentially hundreds of carriers, hundreds of thousands could die just as easily. And...if it makes it through that flu season, and comes back to the northern hemisphere next year, it won't be starting from just ONE origination point. There could be potentially hundreds of carriers. ONE carrier started a world wide crisis. Imagine what hundreds of carriers, or even thousands of carriers, at the start of the next flu season could do to a population.
the POTUS just said this week after meeting with the drug companies that a vaccine is very close to coming. I’ll trust our President over the media any day if the week.
I agree with you - I want information about the virus and I want it provi
Agree with you. I think the briefings that are being done now by public health experts are very informative and well done. Early on there were way too many people speaking under the cloak of authority who didn't know their butt from a hole in the ground about the virus, but things are improving on that front.
the POTUS just said this week after meeting with the drug companies that a vaccine is very close to coming. I’ll trust our President over the media any day if the week.
Right, many assume this is a brand new never heard of type of virus. One that we have zero natural immunity to. Yes, It is a new strain of a virus. The Corona virus as been circulation throughout the population for decades. So I assume we do have antibodies at least a little to this. By the end of this I bet the US has less than 100,000 documented infections and less than 5,000 deaths. Will see how right or wrong I am.Yeah your taking the high estimate of deaths from that virus. I’ve seen estimates as low as 150k. Honestly they don’t know the total casualties from that virus but what they do know is the mortality rate is very low, especially in the US. Only like 12k in total or something. Keep in mind, this is a virus that a good chunk of the population has had, many without even knowing it.
how many people have died in car accidents? Should we all be afraid of the road and cars? The mortality rate for humans over all is 100%. We can’t live in fear. That’s why covid-19 is more dangerous because of the fear of it. Wash your hands. Be clean. You’ll probably be ok even if you get it
Right, many assume this is a brand new never heard of type of virus. One that we have zero natural immunity to. Yes, It is a new strain of a virus. The Corona virus as been circulation throughout the population for decades. So I assume we do have antibodies at least a little to this. By the end of this I bet the US has less than 100,000 documented infections and less than 5,000 deaths. Will see how right or wrong I am.
Yeah your taking the high estimate of deaths from that virus. I’ve seen estimates as low as 150k. Honestly they don’t know the total casualties from that virus but what they do know is the mortality rate is very low, especially in the US. Only like 12k in total or something. Keep in mind, this is a virus that a good chunk of the population has had, many without even knowing it.
how many people have died in car accidents? Should we all be afraid of the road and cars? The mortality rate for humans over all is 100%. We can’t live in fear. That’s why covid-19 is more dangerous because of the fear of it. Wash your hands. Be clean. You’ll probably be ok even if you get it[/QUOTE]
Hey, I'm one of those faceless persons who is at high risk because of my age. I work with K-8 grade kids, which means most everyone has a cold during the winter - no matter how many times you wash your hands and "are clean". Right now I have a normal cold. I'm also due to fly from Seattle to Nebraska. If I go am I putting myself at a high risk? Do I dare even visit my 80+ year old parents?
This virus is affecting REAL PEOPLE. It's not a media hype job.
The experts, as in the real experts, say your chances of contracting are low, if you aren't going to an area with an outbreak. Especially if you are going to Nebraska, which I believe has only 1 person that has tested positive so far. Although she has been in contact with a number of people, and her dad is showing symptoms of the virus.
I'm flying into/out of Seattle, the center of the virus, with all my home made hand sanitizer. My only worry is that I have a cold - so I'll take off tomorrow and try to get the cold taken care of.
And I'm not really worried - I just want to point out the callous nature of some of these posters. This board DOES get dumber every day.
i like a lot of what trump has done, and dont care for a lot of what he says, but this situation doesnt lend itself to histrionics.
i meant his histrionics...for clarification.I would agree with you. I think he has been overly dramatic about trying to downplay this virus. How's that?
i meant his histrionics...for clarification.
H1N1 did kill about 400k people so....and H1N1 did kill 50 million in 1918...and an equivalent in 1847....The media went completely bat **** crazy over H1N1 as well, back in 2009. I specifically remember CNN sending Sanjay Gupta to Mexico because they were convinced they had found "Patient Zero" - a young boy who lived a couple of miles from a (gasp!) hog production facility that was surely going to infect the entire area. When he got there the kid had recovered and was out playing soccer with his friends, none of whom were afraid of getting sick.
Gee I doubt the media was trying to take down the President in 2009, and yet they ran constant stories about H1N1, many of which were way overblown.
From what I've read no confirmed case in anyone under the age of 9I understand this virus really doesn’t effects the younger ones nearly as bad as the elderly
I understand that. But some of the media coverage in 2009 was ridiculously bad - not because H1N1 wasn't a big story, but because it was inaccurate and not based on science. And yet at no time did people convince themselves that the media was using H1N1 to bring down the president.H1N1 did kill about 400k people so....and H1N1 did kill 50 million in 1918...and an equivalent in 1847....
The irony is the age group that will be killed and sickened the most by this virus have the worst levels of science education, especially in evolutionary biology and virology. Some of them didn't even learn that the continents moved in school let alone about the evolutionary history of influenza or coronaviruses, our President included. And once you are out of the loop there is no reason to go back in if you have a career doesn't interact with science. Even then, my virology teacher didn't believe evolution affected humans, only subhuman animals. So the ignorance level of fairly intelligent americans is just astounding when it comes to science related topics. We have been lucky in a couple regards and so the ignorant MAY be allowed to stay that way...summer is coming, the aggressive form of the virus has been muted by China's amazing and extreme quarantine, and at the moment the virus doesn't spread well in the open air. Many of the loud mouths on this board will have a 1/6 chance of dying if they get the virus...disabling pneumonia, intubation, paralysis, secondary infection, sepsis, and multiple organ failure as the local hospital spends thousands to try to keep you alive, along with dozens, hundreds, or thousands of people in the same age range. I hope I am allowed to stay home so I don't kill my mom or brother...the test will come if we allowed people to stay off work until the virus is leveling off and not continuing to spread as it is right now. I bet by the end of this week, the dorks on this board will feel very differently about this virus.i like a lot of what trump has done, and dont care for a lot of what he says, but this situation doesnt lend itself to histrionics.