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When was the last time the special teams unit was good? Was it when Bo coached them? Seems like it's been a long time since we've seen competent special teams play.
 

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When was the last time the special teams unit was good? Was it when Bo coached them? Seems like it's been a long time since we've seen competent special teams play.
DPE's Freshman year, the year after the Ross Els ST disaster, is the last time I can remember being good on ST.
 

BroskiRed

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So easy anyone could it right? Well, our coaches couldn't so what does that say.

You are obviously not talking from a position of knowledge so you are forgiven this time. There is a reason there are ST coaches and we were apparently looking at ST analyst. But really, any 9th grader can do it.
Every other team in the Big Ten West division has an assigned, paid coordinator or coach. Since joining the BIG, Nebraska has been mired with coaching changes. Just my opinion, but not getting this in place before Spring practice is a big red flag in my book.
Iowa-Special Teams Coordinator (Woods)
Wisconsin- ST Coach (Haering)
Minnesota- ST Coordinator (Wenger)
Northwestern- ST Coordinator (Genyk)
Purdue (recently hired 1/2020)- ST Coordinator/D Assistant (Biagi)
Illiniois- ST Coordinator (Ligashesky)

So much of big time college football is a simple arms race. Having quality, qualified people assigned to these roles separates the haves from the have nots. I have yet to see Nebraska assign someone qualified to run special teams. Hope this gets done real soon
Frost's formula for wins is predicated on outscoring the opposition (he has said so). Having special teams as a liability puts more undue pressure on his offense and defense in my opinion
 

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Per USC Rivals site earlier reference of Helton nearing decision to fill open assistant coaching positions that included a Special Teams coach. So I'd interpret that as an open on field coaching position vs Husker Special Teams Analyst role. I'd venture to guess he leveraged the Husker offer (if one actually existed) to up the money offer from USC. Next !
Joining a sinking ship
 

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Obviously by now one of the assistants will be handling special teams..

What’s really needed is a kicker that can kick it in the end zone, wind or no wind..
 

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Obviously by now one of the assistants will be handling special teams..

What’s really needed is a kicker that can kick it in the end zone, wind or no wind..
It should be more obvious than it is. Frost already assigned new roles to Ryan Held and Greg Austin and did not assign any special teams roles.
I wish that it were obvious, and an obvious priority, but it's not obvious and plain like the roles he's already assigned

According to the World Herald:
"NU lost its special teams coordinator, Jovan Dewitt, to North Carolina. He was replaced by Mike Dawson, who is not slated to coach special teams"
 
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Redscarlet

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It should be more obvious than it is. Frost already assigned new roles to Ryan Held and Greg Austin and did not assign any special teams roles.
I wish that it were obvious, and an obvious priority, but it's not obvious and plain like the roles he's already assigned

According to the World Herald:
"NU lost its special teams coordinator, Jovan Dewitt, to North Carolina. He was replaced by Mike Dawson, who is not slated to coach special teams"

It’s obviously that all 10 full Assistant positions are full.. So it’s obvious that one of the assistants or SF himself( which I doubt will happen) or it’s done by a committee..
 

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........................................Frost's formula for wins is predicated on outscoring the opposition (he has said so). Having special teams as a liability puts more undue pressure on his offense and defense in my opinion

Appreciate the effort you went to listing these ST coordinators.

However, Is your misunderstanding of Scott Frost's statement you quoted above deliberate or are you out of touch with reality? His understanding of special teams and their importance surely dwarfs yours. He knows how important they are.
 

TruHusker

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When was the last time the special teams unit was good? Was it when Bo coached them? Seems like it's been a long time since we've seen competent special teams play.

Yes, there was an article providing data on STs and the last really good ones were under Bo.
 

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Every other team in the Big Ten West division has an assigned, paid coordinator or coach. Since joining the BIG, Nebraska has been mired with coaching changes. Just my opinion, but not getting this in place before Spring practice is a big red flag in my book.
Iowa-Special Teams Coordinator (Woods)
Wisconsin- ST Coach (Haering)
Minnesota- ST Coordinator (Wenger)
Northwestern- ST Coordinator (Genyk)
Purdue (recently hired 1/2020)- ST Coordinator/D Assistant (Biagi)
Illiniois- ST Coordinator (Ligashesky)

So much of big time college football is a simple arms race. Having quality, qualified people assigned to these roles separates the haves from the have nots. I have yet to see Nebraska assign someone qualified to run special teams. Hope this gets done real soon
Frost's formula for wins is predicated on outscoring the opposition (he has said so). Having special teams as a liability puts more undue pressure on his offense and defense in my opinion

You do realize I was being sarcastic and replying to someone who was saying it was not a big deal.
 

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You do realize I was being sarcastic and replying to someone who was saying it was not a big deal.
Yes, I do, I should have replied to Dingle's post. I agree with you, your post prompted me to look up and confirm what everyone else on our side of the league has in place, and has had in place for years for the best teams.
 

dinglefritz

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Yes, I do, I should have replied to Dingle's post. I agree with you, your post prompted me to look up and confirm what everyone else on our side of the league has in place, and has had in place for years for the best teams.
What do the "best" teams have that we haven't had lately. Great team speed and physical talent is the overwhelming answer. I expect that Frost personally takes over responsibility for special teams this year and I bet he still hires a special teams analyst.
 
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oldjar07

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Hiring a special teams coach isn't going to guarantee anything. Our special teams weren't that great the last time we had a special teams coach.
 

dinglefritz

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Hiring a special teams coach isn't going to guarantee anything. Our special teams weren't that great the last time we had a special teams coach.
Some of the best special teams we ever had were with Scott Downing. I don't think he ever had a "coordinator" title.
 

BroskiRed

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Appreciate the effort you went to listing these ST coordinators.

However, Is your misunderstanding of Scott Frost's statement you quoted above deliberate or are you out of touch with reality? His understanding of special teams and their importance surely dwarfs yours. He knows how important they are.
Surely he does. Bo knew alot about defense also. It doesn't matter what you know if you can't put it on the field
Part of it is talent, sure, but assigning the right person to handle the job is the other half of the equation
I'm not sure how I misunderstood his quote. He said that if NU scores "x" amount of points on offense, then that's the goal
He runs an offense that puts the defense on the filed for alot of plays
Special teams that can't execute puts undue stress on those units is a pretty reasonable conclusion
 

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I'm not sure how I misunderstood his quote. He said that if NU scores "x" amount of points on offense, then that's the goal

Thank you. That's exactly how you are misunderstanding it. You are saying "that's the goal" You are implying "that's the goal period".