Just googled Cincy's depth chart. Looks like they only lose 5 starters this year. Their first three games before us are Austin Peay, Western Michigan and Miami (Ohio). That will be a tough game.
Next year’s schedule ??
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certainly you are not suggesting that Luke Fickell after taking over a 4 win Cincinnati team in 2018 is going to come into Lincoln in year 3 and make a game of it
or that CMU 1-11 in 2018 might be a threat next year in Lincoln with a head coach in his 2nd year at CMU
Those are automatic Ws
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I know of a coach that once took a team from winless to undefeated in two seasons in that conference, is that relevant to this conversation?
yes ... it certainly is .. it got him a huge payday at a power 5 program with an AD that sets the bar as low as it can go (6 wins) for year 2 and then rewards him with 10 million dollars when he falls short of even that
we should not lose to a non-power 5 school in the midst of their own rebuilds at home in year 3
expectations are too low and have been for a while - certainly not blue blood expectations
as previously shown when a blue blood finds the right coach the turn around is dramatic - certainly not back to back losing seasons - we will have to see if Frost is an outlier in this regard
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The conference schedule speaks for itself. Cincinnati is a legitimate top 20 team. South Dakota State is one of those teams that has made a habit of playing p5 teams tough (like ndsu and the old App State teams). SDSU also has a lot of NebraskaJacks on the roster. Scary game. CMU lost to Miami by 5 this year and won 7 games so far. 2020 is a tough schedule.
my question is why does the Cincinnati coach have a legit top 20 team in year 2 after taking over a 4-8 team and we can't get to a bowl game
should we have given more consideration to Luke Fickell in 2018?
CMU you expect to be tough - they will be 2 years removed from a 1-11 season with a coach in his 2nd year there (if he stays) -
We get it. You're "No Excuses Guy." So if we don't start out 7-0, losing to one of these teams that in your opinion we should beat, and if we don't make that up with a stunning victory or two in the Bataan Death March that ends the season (say we go 5-7 again, or even 6-6 with some lame-*** December bowl), what's the remedy at that point?
Better yet, what's the remedy right now to make sure we don't continue to struggle as we have?
the formula for winning is the same as it is for every other school
1. Identify talent
2. Be able to recruit that talent to your school
3. Develop and coach that talent
4. Coach that talent on game day
do the above better than the majority of the schools on your schedule - even Cincinnati and Central Michigan
1-4 above pretty much defines coaching
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Thank you, but what happens to Frost if we don't win at least seven games next year? Hot seat? Dismissal? I agree that we should aim high, but how high and how soon? Your checklist is a way to improve the team, but what record proves that the current staff is unable to accomplish 1-4 on your list?
7 wins will be lauded as progress .. which I suppose one could make a case that it is
Maybe Frost will win big - routine top 10 finishes -
I think Frost might be the coach that leads Husker nation into accepting Iowa -like standards with Frost becoming our Kirk Ferentz -- time will tell, I'm in favor of giving him 6-7 years to find out where the bar is set for this program
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I really hope that next year is the year we turn it around. I really hope next year some poster tells me “see, Scott is a much better coach then you thought”
But I really hope that if next year doesn’t get better you all don’t use the schedule as a lame excuse.
Is it more difficult? Yeah. But playing better teams makes you better. And beating better teams makes a statement
In 2000, bob stoops 2nd year as HC @ OU, the Sooners won the National Championship. In that year they played 4 top 25 teams in 5 weeks. 3 top 11 teams 3 weeks in a row. They played #1 & #2 in backed round back weeks. They went 12-0 and won the title.
The year before they went 7-5 and played 1 top 25 team all year long. They obviously had a much more difficult of a schedule in 2000 then 1999. But they got better by playing better teams and it built their confidence
Losing due to Strength of schedule is an excuse. If frost is a good coach, we will do Great next year regardless of schedule. Winners want to be in big time games. They don’t want to play Indiana
But I really hope that if next year doesn’t get better you all don’t use the schedule as a lame excuse.
Is it more difficult? Yeah. But playing better teams makes you better. And beating better teams makes a statement
In 2000, bob stoops 2nd year as HC @ OU, the Sooners won the National Championship. In that year they played 4 top 25 teams in 5 weeks. 3 top 11 teams 3 weeks in a row. They played #1 & #2 in backed round back weeks. They went 12-0 and won the title.
The year before they went 7-5 and played 1 top 25 team all year long. They obviously had a much more difficult of a schedule in 2000 then 1999. But they got better by playing better teams and it built their confidence
Losing due to Strength of schedule is an excuse. If frost is a good coach, we will do Great next year regardless of schedule. Winners want to be in big time games. They don’t want to play Indiana
Actually, they only lose 4 starters. As it stands right now, Nebraska would be a slight underdog in that game.
Then do yourself and the rest of humanity a favor and STFU.
or
Alternatively, link one post of yours where you said we should hire Luke Fickell in 2018. If you can, I'll be happy to STFU.
calm down ... it'll be OK
Scott Frost at Nebraska in year 3 isn't going to lose to Luke Fickell at Cincinnati in year 3 after taking over a 4-8 team
Luke Fickell with Ohio State talent couldn't even beat Bo Pelini
next year when we are at the top of the division will confirm that Frost is the guy
I mean you can call it what you want, but me personally I wouldn’t say it’s lowering expectations, I still expect the huskers to compete, I expect that every year... but realistically we have been crap, so is it realistic to go 7-0 after having three straight losing seasons? Or is it more realistic to continue making small strides to the ultimate goal? The thing about goal setting is you have to set way points to the ultimate goal one can shoot for the stars, but you have to reach the moon before you get to the stars, and so on and so forth... short attainable goals that lead the the ultimate goal, or graduated expectations, you should look into it it, heck most the fans here should look into it before we start running more coaches and ADs out of town
disagree ... expectations have been way too low for way too long .. it will help this team and the players if expectations are high
Calm down huh? Hey, trivia question - who has made about 140 posts in the last week but is telling others to calm down? LOL, kinda frantic.
With our current state, no matter the schedule, I will be surprised pleasantly if we win more than 4-5 games a year the next few seasons. That’s where I am. They have to show consistency, tremendous improvement, refusal to lose, stop turning the ball over — everything that separates a poor program from good. No more hype. The N on the side our our helmets doesn’t scare anyone and it won’t win us any games.
disagree- pointing to previous three years record as evidence... obviously high expectations haven’t helped yet... again I think you are confusing high expectations vs realistic goals
high expectations are part of playing and coaching at Nebraska or any other blue blood .. the team needs to be confident
otherwise standards just gravitate toward Iowa and we start fretting about things like next years schedule 9 months in advance, or having to face off against Cincinnati or Central Michigan at home, or opening the season against a 4-8 Purdue team
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where did I say national title - just high expectations
blue bloods don’t cower in the face of expectations such as winning the division.
All the talk about bullies like Cincinnati, Central Michigan and 4-8 Purdue coming to town must have got to me
you must be seriously dense to not understand that that expectations haven’t changed... but having it realistic goals have changed... at this point it’s a futile attempt to try to get you to understand so I won’t continue to humor you with replying... again yes high expectations come with the job... but currently our goals are to get to a friggin bowl first, win games, then work our way back up
Where is anyone cowering in the face of expectations such as winning the division?
You keep standing up straw men without really having a point.
If he does not post a winning season by the end of year 4, he's done. The marriage didn't work. This year was crucial to get some heat off the seat but we all know how we crapped the year away.
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North Dakota State is the one winning the NCs....but both UND and NDSU are in the playoffs right now, so, maybe......
You can frame it however you want, but you might want to check with the OP first. It is getting hard to keep up with the mental gymnastics required to fit everything into this narrative.
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nope, I was told the powers that be and those who write the checks are fully committed to Frost and will stand by him for the long term.
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