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The Spread is on the way out....

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Solana Beach Husker

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1. Tackling has caught up...the new shoulder method combined with better angles has made the spread weaker when talent is equal
2. The spread is difficult to run in adverse weather conditions...are you willing to risk a championship because it is raining, snowing, or there are 30 mph winds.
3. Qbs are too integral and are too susceptible to injury. The spread is not designed to be a rb first scheme, it requires an experienced qb...and qbs get hurt often in it because they take a ton of contact.

What scheme is next...

1. Still has to excite qbs and qb talent is still important in any new scheme
2. Down hill running will become more impactful since the new tackling methods require you to hit ball carrier from the side, power backs should become more effective
3. The new scheme has to protect the qb because qb depth is a problem everywhere with the new transfer rule.
 
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yunginsNU2

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Ohio state seems to be doing just fine with it in the same conditions you just described just saying
 
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chicolby

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You think pro-style offense is run in the NFL for fun? The NFL runs offenses that can successfully move the ball against stout defenses.
 
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Seems like the spread is only gaining in usage. Now even teams like LSU and Alabama are using it.
 
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TheBeav815

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Another strip sack for Young. Gus Johnson is annoying AF to listen to but Young is a freak
 
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dand84

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Which spread? Peanut butter or that new-fangled almond or cashew stuff?
 
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chicolby said:
You think pro-style offense is run in the NFL for fun? The NFL runs offenses that can successfully move the ball against stout defenses.
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what is this, 1996? the top 5 offenses in the NFL, per DVOA, this season are:

dallas
kc
green bay
seattle
baltimore

can you pick out the ones that don't run a spread scheme for us?
 
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TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Offenses are cyclical. Eventually, when teams start trotting out 185 lb linebackers to cover the air raid someone will come back with a smash mouth run game and dominate.
 
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Solana Beach Husker

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headcard said:
Seems like the spread is only gaining in usage. Now even teams like LSU and Alabama are using it.
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The spread has hit its peak...and will begin to lose popularity. Alabama and LSU are going to face the issues of losing qbs to injury and not having depth. Much as the chiefs are facing right now, as are we...I certainly could begin to see a version of the wildcat come back with more zone blocking and less reliance on the qb being in contact. The new concussion rules have helped with head injuries but the new tackling methods require taking the player out at the legs, and from the sides, which is going to lead to a ton of leg injuries for smaller ball carriers. Maybe the air raid offense will pick up but that isn't tenable in the big 10 because of weather. Those that point at OSU have to remember they have the #1 recruiting class in the nation on the field right now...any offense would work because they are just better.
 
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Spread ain't going anywhere unless the rules change again. The rule changes have facilitated the change to the spread. High schools everywhere are running the spread. The NFL is running spread concepts. It's here to stay for a while.
 
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BleedRed78

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I could see a slight in variation of spread, but it's there for a reason. Even Tom's offense was an early precursor style of spread, and would've evolved into what OSU runs.

I gotta admit, I envy Indiana's pistol formations. I'm a huge fan of that style and I think it blends the benefits of both I formation and shotgun. What are the chances Frost eventually styles his o around the pistol? He did say he likes what they run...
 
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Lincoln100

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Solana Beach Husker said:
1. Tackling has caught up...the new shoulder method combined with better angles has made the spread weaker when talent is equal
2. The spread is difficult to run in adverse weather conditions...are you willing to risk a championship because it is raining, snowing, or there are 30 mph winds.
3. Qbs are too integral and are too susceptible to injury. The spread is not designed to be a rb first scheme, it requires an experienced qb...and qbs get hurt often in it because they take a ton of contact.

What scheme is next...

1. Still has to excite qbs and qb talent is still important in any new scheme
2. Down hill running will become more impactful since the new tackling methods require you to hit ball carrier from the side, power backs should become more effective
3. The new scheme has to protect the qb because qb depth is a problem everywhere with the new transfer rule.
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You’re always on the cutting edge
 
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Solana Beach Husker

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Suhrreal said:
Spread ain't going anywhere unless the rules change again. The rule changes have facilitated the change to the spread. High schools everywhere are running the spread. The NFL is running spread concepts. It's here to stay for a while.
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How many qbs are injured right now due to having to get their legs destroyed running the ball? The RPO spread might move to air raid, as that is what the NFL is basically going to move to...as qbs can't stay healthy there either. The RPO is a great concept but with the transfer rules there just isn't the depth to have your qb hit 20 times a game, even on fakes he might get smacked by 600 pounds of dlineman...the RPO really wants 5-10 qb runs but the qb has to be an option. Tackling is only going to get better as it adjusts to the sideline to sideline action. Great talent will always win championships but I imagine more middle level teams will copy wisky to get the most out of middling talent.
 
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