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HUSKERFAN66

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Didn’t it just seem like the runs we had out of that formation were just faster and had more “pop” than our supposedly up tempo spread formations? I remember the one run out of the I formation where Martinez just did a quick pitch out to Maurice, who was already moving forward towards the line of scrimmage, and Mo hit the line with speed and force, gaining about 8 yards. That was beautiful. But then, after the pic, we abandoned it.
Eliminated the high snap messing up timing for sure
 

Slantsflood

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In Greg Austin's interview this week he said our starting offensive line yelled "keep running it" (I formation). And then we went away from it.

Pretty interesting?
 
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jlb321_rivals110621

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In Greg Austin's interview this week he said our starting offensive line yelled "keep running it" (I formation). And then we went away from it.

That's pretty interesting?

Please correct me if I misremembered but didn’t we promptly go 3 and out when we ran this series in the NW game?
 
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GretnaShawn

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That quote was from the Ohio st game. We ran 2 plays out of it against NW

And if the TE catches the ball in the NW game (on a beautifully drawn up play), they absolutely get a first in the I-formation. And probably run it some more.
 

TruHusker

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1.) when you're running all these run pass options, the linemen don't know if it will be a run or a pass because the QB makes a read and decides after the snap.. on a standard run play, you can have lineman past the line of scrimmage blocking someone, or looking for someone to block. It's a completely different mindset for run blocking. You're litterally trying to mow people down past the line of scrimmage. In a pass play, you can't do that or you get called of an ineligible man downfield. A pass play forces the line to step backwards to pass protect. An rpo, has to be treated like a pass, because the line doesn't know the outcome of the play, so it's not like they can just run people down.

2.) The qb doesn't have the same kinds of reads where he pulls the ball out of the RB's hands or decides it will be a pass play. Sure he has different kinds of reads, but you're basically running a play without thinking too much. You might pitch it to a guy on an option, but that's usually an easy read to make.

3.) Yes, if you understand Frosts system, the Defense is supposed to compliment the Offense. It's a quick strike offense built around putting points on the board quickly. To compliment that, the defense plays aggressively by design. This leads to more turnovers, sacks, and also busted plays. Because of this hurry up scheme on both sides of the ball, changing the offensive identity allows you to change the defensive identity to more of a ball control type of system. That was the old way we did it. Control the clock, march down the field. The defense played more read and react, and made the opposing team earn each first down and forced them to go the length of the field to score. This is a polar opposite to what we do now, and why the defense is actually doing good by giving up an average of 30 points a game. The offense is supposed to be averaging 50 a game.

Hope this helps.

A lot of theoretical stuff here but doesn't address the core issues. What actual fundamental skills are different - the comment was about requiring different skills. What blocking techniques are different? What tackling techniques are different?

Are you saying the Husker D's or the 90's were not attacking?

Apparently your proposal of giving up 30 and scoring 50 isn't working out.
 

c3o

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We need more 21 and 22 personnel packages. Someone posted a game from 1991 v Buffs. Man that offense would dominated now. It was like Wisconsin offense with a sprinkle of option/misdirection. What I loved was how open a WR or TE was on a play action. Holy ****
 

TruHusker

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We need more 21 and 22 personnel packages. Someone posted a game from 1991 v Buffs. Man that offense would dominated now. It was like Wisconsin offense with a sprinkle of option/misdirection. What I loved was how open a WR or TE was on a play action. Holy ****

You still have to block and execute. Formation can only do so much.
 

SoyboyFROST

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Sounds like frost might realize that a gimmick offense like his doesn’t work in the BIG unless you’re playing weak defenses. Dick Rod figured it out. Frost will too
 

Jhollenbeck41

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Sounds like frost might realize that a gimmick offense like his doesn’t work in the BIG. Dick Rod figured it out. Frost will too
Not sure how many times this needs to be pointed but Ohio State literally runs a version of this spread offense. It works fine. If you don't have the horses then it doesn't work as well.
 

barney44

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Sounds like frost might realize that a gimmick offense like his doesn’t work in the BIG unless you’re playing weak defenses. Dick Rod figured it out. Frost will too

Please! There is NO specific offensive requirement for any conference.
 

dand84

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Sounds like frost might realize that a gimmick offense like his doesn’t work in the BIG unless you’re playing weak defenses. Dick Rod figured it out. Frost will too
Better get on the horn to OSU and tell them their offense sucks for the B1G.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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A lot of theoretical stuff here but doesn't address the core issues. What actual fundamental skills are different - the comment was about requiring different skills. What blocking techniques are different? What tackling techniques are different?

Are you saying the Husker D's or the 90's were not attacking?

Apparently your proposal of giving up 30 and scoring 50 isn't working out.
where do you people get this stuff? it's not my system or proposal

I suggest going and reading up on Scott's scheme. You would find that the defense is tailored around the offense, in hurry up mode to take a lot of chances, to get the ball back quickly, so the offense can go score again.

With this style of defense, you are going to get burned and give up points, (I say around 30) but the plus side is, you should also get some turnovers allowing your offense a few more possessions than the other guy. (This is how you should be scoring in the 50's).

It is the opposite of the 90's.

In the 90's we were a ball control/clock control scheme. March it all the way down the field and score, eat up tons of clock, the opponent is no longer fresh or in sync, and their drive sputters out. Repeat.

Our defense did NOT play this attacking risky scheme that we are playing today, and it's especially a liability when the offense isn't working, because the defense gets tired being on the field all day long and has to play too many snaps.

Read up on some of Scotts quotes. He has stated that the #1 most important position of this entire freaking thing, is the QB.

Without a QB doing well, none of it does well. And yet people still want to blame this and that and the other thing except the QB, for the poor play this year.

It just boggles my mind how all this stuff is out there in black and white for people to read, and so few understand what is going on.

Hint, the D is doing a good job this year.
 

Slantsflood

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where do you people get this stuff? it's not my system or proposal

I suggest going and reading up on Scott's scheme. You would find that the defense is tailored around the offense, in hurry up mode to take a lot of chances, to get the ball back quickly, so the offense can go score again.

With this style of defense, you are going to get burned and give up points, (I say around 30) but the plus side is, you should also get some turnovers allowing your offense a few more possessions than the other guy. (This is how you should be scoring in the 50's).

It is the opposite of the 90's.

In the 90's we were a ball control/clock control scheme. March it all the way down the field and score, eat up tons of clock, the opponent is no longer fresh or in sync, and their drive sputters out. Repeat.

Our defense did NOT play this attacking risky scheme that we are playing today, and it's especially a liability when the offense isn't working, because the defense gets tired being on the field all day long and has to play too many snaps.

Read up on some of Scotts quotes. He has stated that the #1 most important position of this entire freaking thing, is the QB.

Without a QB doing well, none of it does well. And yet people still want to blame this and that and the other thing except the QB, for the poor play this year.

It just boggles my mind how all this stuff is out there in black and white for people to read, and so few understand what is going on.

Hint, the D is doing a good job this year.
Nailed it
 

SoyboyFROST

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Not sure how many times this needs to be pointed but Ohio State literally runs a version of this spread offense. It works fine. If you don't have the horses then it doesn't work as well.
Better get on the horn to OSU and tell them their offense sucks for the B1G.

OSU has elite athletes though. Kirk Ferentz retired urban meyer when osu lost 55-24 in 2017. We will never blow out teams like Iowa. We just get blown out by osu and the top tier teams
 

SoFL Husker

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We should use it our OL is built for push, not pass protect.

Love ya Penny. You get it.

Glasses up! GBR
 

dand84

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^This post pretty much sums up Nebraska football.

You guys should have fun conversing with Gopher fans about the "good old days".

OSU has elite athletes though. Kirk Ferentz retired urban meyer back in 2017 when osu lost 55-24 in 2017. We will never blow out teams like Iowa. We just get blown out by osu and the top tier teams
Sure thing chief. What flavor is that window you are licking?
 

GBR_Atlanta

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Please correct me if I don’t remember correctly but didn’t we promptly go 3 and out when we ran this series in the NW game?

Sure did. We’re in division that has to prepare for Iowa and Wiscy every year. This little wrinkle won’t fool anyone in the West. NW is the first team to slow down Wiscy this year. Our 3 plays we run under center aren’t going to fool them.