Crayton blows big lead. Bug Bye NCAA chances

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Not a good win at home for the committee for a team on the bubble. The BAD loss to Nebraska will do them no favors. Love the idea of NU playing a part of keeping them out .
 

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I still think Creighton has to win the Big East to get in. Eleven 14 loss teams have made the tournament as an at large (which is what Creighton will be if they don’t win the Big East)
 

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I still think Creighton has to win the Big East to get in. Eleven 14 loss teams have made the tournament as an at large (which is what Creighton will be if they don’t win the Big East)
Yeah, I agree.

You are seeing the future of what Jay basketball will look like, lots of .500 seasons.

McGregg has one of the top 5 P5 jobs in the country because that stadium will stay packed (if they keep selling booze) and the product on the court won't matter because it is an event. Dude hit the jackpot in terms of gigs.
 

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I still think Creighton has to win the Big East to get in. Eleven 14 loss teams have made the tournament as an at large (which is what Creighton will be if they don’t win the Big East)
I think the Jays at least need to make the final, although that would be no sure thing. That game they gave away against Marquette looms as a big missed opportunity, because Creighton has several good wins but only a couple that are real resume-boosters.
 
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Yeah, I agree.

You are seeing the future of what Jay basketball will look like, lots of .500 seasons.

McGregg has one of the top 5 P5 jobs in the country because that stadium will stay packed (if they keep selling booze) and the product on the court won't matter because it is an event. Dude hit the jackpot in terms of gigs.

People have been saying Creighton is going to teeter off for a really long time, maybe they do, maybe they don't, but regardless they've done great for themselves up to now. Glad to have 'em in Omaha, nothing but a plus for the city. Also, were it not for them, we may not have the building they are in now, whatever the name of it is this year.
 

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People have been saying Creighton is going to teeter off for a really long time, maybe they do, maybe they don't, but regardless they've done great for themselves up to now. Glad to have 'em in Omaha, nothing but a plus for the city. Also, were it not for them, we may not have the building they are in now, whatever the name of it is this year.

You post is exactly why McGregg has one of the best gigs around/ "Done great for themselves"

Really? The last 5 seasons he is 40-48 in conference place with zero NCAA wins. Most P5 schools that means hotseat time. But not for Jays fans!

He has 3 NCAA wins in 9 seasons! Simply amazing the sell job he has done or that Rass has done. Since joining the Big East he has 1 NCAA win.

To the second point...you are probably right if not for the jays (beer sales) that building might not be there.
 
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If the Big East is Power 5 conference, their football really, really sucks.
 

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You post is exactly why McGregg has one of the best gigs around/ "Done great for themselves"

Really? The last 5 seasons he is 40-48 in conference place with zero NCAA wins. Most P5 schools that means hotseat time. But not for Jays fans!

He has 3 NCAA wins in 9 seasons! Simply amazing the sell job he has done or that Rass has done. Since joining the Big East he has 1 NCAA win.

To the second point...you are probably right if not for the jays (beer sales) that building might not be there.

Maybe Creighton fan is smart enough to know what their ceiling is. The big east is a tough conference. Not one team is below ,500 right now. You also have to factor in that creighton is still getting used to not being a mid-major where you almost had to win the valley tournament to make the ncaa. When they made the jump, people thought they would struggle and maybe even be the worst program in the Big East. So now that they’ve been top half more often than not, Mcdermott is still exceeding expectations. Context matters. Which is why I can’t understand Nebrasketball fan expectations.

Oh and 3 NCAA wins in 9 years sounds pretty damn good.
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Maybe Creighton fan is smart enough to know what their ceiling is. The big east is a tough conference. Not one team is below ,500 right now. You also have to factor in that creighton is still getting used to not being a mid-major where you almost had to win the valley tournament to make the ncaa. When they made the jump, people thought they would struggle and maybe even be the worst program in the Big East. So now that they’ve been top half more often than not, Mcdermott is still exceeding expectations. Context matters. Which is why I can’t understand Nebrasketball fan expectations.

Oh and 3 NCAA wins in 9 years sounds pretty damn good.
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Getting used to the conference? It is has been 5 seasons...They did better in the conference when they first got in it than they are now. The Big East is what, 4th best? The Big East is not the old big east...thank god they have Nova.

ACC
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Big East?

I don't know what Husker BBALL fans expectations are but it seems like they are shockingly low...If you are in a P5 conference I feel like your expectations should be to make the dance 75% of the time.
 

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They've had some pretty bad injury luck (and a phony rape claim) as well with two of their better teams.
That is true and that is true.

But with that said, that happens (well, injuries. Not the fake rape)

You could also argue that even having Watson in the first place was good luck.
 
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You post is exactly why McGregg has one of the best gigs around/ "Done great for themselves"

Really? The last 5 seasons he is 40-48 in conference place with zero NCAA wins. Most P5 schools that means hotseat time. But not for Jays fans!

He has 3 NCAA wins in 9 seasons! Simply amazing the sell job he has done or that Rass has done. Since joining the Big East he has 1 NCAA win.

To the second point...you are probably right if not for the jays (beer sales) that building might not be there.


I'm realistic. Nebraska has what, 3 D-1 basketball schools, and produces less than 3 legit D-1 players a year? I don't expect Creighton to be a top 25 team year in and year out, and they have done great for themselves. I'm satisfied with what they've done to now, and if that helps McDermott have one of the best gigs around, sweet. I'd prefer that, than a horrible gig that has no success playing in a crappy building. Creighton has been awesome for Omaha, and I'm glad they are here.
 

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You post is exactly why McGregg has one of the best gigs around/ "Done great for themselves"

Really? The last 5 seasons he is 40-48 in conference place with zero NCAA wins. Most P5 schools that means hotseat time. But not for Jays fans!

He has 3 NCAA wins in 9 seasons! Simply amazing the sell job he has done or that Rass has done. Since joining the Big East he has 1 NCAA win.

To the second point...you are probably right if not for the jays (beer sales) that building might not be there.


What a dumb post. NU has much greater resources and has, unfortunately, sucked for 20+ years and you downgrade Creighton for "ONLY" three NCAA wins in nine seasons. What?????? And though it's nice to have a beer at a game, Creighton has played exciting and successful styles of basketball for 20 years. Conversely, NU has played horrible, boring, crappy basketball for 20 years. Maybe the basketball and not the beer sales have something to do with attendance. But go ahead and keep claiming the stupid puritanical superiority of no beer sales and make sure and call your representative to not allow sports gambling or medical marijuana in the State also.
 

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What a dumb post. NU has much greater resources and has, unfortunately, sucked for 20+ years and you downgrade Creighton for "ONLY" three NCAA wins in nine seasons. What?????? And though it's nice to have a beer at a game, Creighton has played exciting and successful styles of basketball for 20 years. Conversely, NU has played horrible, boring, crappy basketball for 20 years. Maybe the basketball and not the beer sales have something to do with attendance. But go ahead and keep claiming the stupid puritanical superiority of no beer sales and make sure and call your representative to not allow sports gambling or medical marijuana in the State also.
What?

I want beer sales! I want weed sales and I am begging for sports gambling you dork. I want more porn and strip clubs. I want all those things and I can't wait for you know who to head to the big football field in the sky so that all those things can happen in the state. Oh and it is the beer sales. I have been to probably 50 Jays games...any time I go me and my group never know who they are playing or who won/lost...but we do have fun drinking...just like all the other fans! Also, I am not a Husker basketball fan, so your entire post was totally wrong about me.

I am still chuckling about this, you clearly don't read a lot of posts of mine (good for you, I wouldn't either) but calling my a puritan, well, anyone that does read my posts knows you are way off!

So...what else do you want to be wrong about?
 
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I'm realistic. Nebraska has what, 3 D-1 basketball schools, and produces less than 3 legit D-1 players a year? I don't expect Creighton to be a top 25 team year in and year out, and they have done great for themselves. I'm satisfied with what they've done to now, and if that helps McDermott have one of the best gigs around, sweet. I'd prefer that, than a horrible gig that has no success playing in a crappy building. Creighton has been awesome for Omaha, and I'm glad they are here.

That is my point! Jays fans are satisfied. It is amazing.
 

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Getting used to the conference? It is has been 5 seasons...They did better in the conference when they first got in it than they are now. The Big East is what, 4th best? The Big East is not the old big east...thank god they have Nova.

ACC
Big Ten
SEC
Big East?

I don't know what Husker BBALL fans expectations are but it seems like they are shockingly low...If you are in a P5 conference I feel like your expectations should be to make the dance 75% of the time.

So they should completely change their mindset and flip expectations after one full recruiting cycle after decades of being the little guy? Top half of the 4th best conference is pretty damn good for a program that came from the Valley. And yeah, they were better the first year or two...Because they had a once in a generation player on the team! Everyone said they would be awful after Doug left, but here they are again, top half of the conference and on the bubble.

Make the tournament 75% of the time? Nebraska has never won a NCAA game and think they should be a top 40 team 3/4 years? Wow. You realize that would result in programs firing coaches every couple of years, right? I feel like your expectations/perception is not based in reality. Most programs will never get there.
 

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So they should completely change their mindset and flip expectations after one full recruiting cycle after decades of being the little guy? Top half of the 4th best conference is pretty damn good for a program that came from the Valley. And yeah, they were better the first year or two...Because they had a once in a generation player on the team! Everyone said they would be awful after Doug left, but here they are again, top half of the conference and on the bubble.

Make the tournament 75% of the time? Nebraska has never won a NCAA game and think they should be a top 40 team 3/4 years? Wow. You realize that would result in programs firing coaches every couple of years, right? I feel like your expectations/perception is not based in reality. Most programs will never get there.

Where are they? That is my point, they are not anywhere.

I don't care what NU does and my expectations are high, like they should be.
 

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What?

I want beer sales! I want weed sales and I am begging for sports gambling you dork. I want more porn and strip clubs. I want all those things and I can't wait for you know who to head to the big football field in the sky so that all those things can happen in the state. Oh and it is the beer sales. I have been to probably 50 Jays games...any time I go me and my group never know who they are playing or who won/lost...but we do have fun drinking...just like all the other fans! Also, I am not a Husker basketball fan, so your entire post was totally wrong about me.

So...what else do you want to be wrong about?


Dumb, just dumb. Creighton doesn't get 18K because of beer sales moron and idiots like you who continue this narrative are morons. And you bagging on Creighton's successes is moronic at best, especially if in defense of NU. I've been to hundreds of games and it's an extremely rare occasion to see anyone hammered outside of the student section and I doubt if anyone is hammered, it is because they were buying beers at the game. It seems like you may be hammered now with your stupid posts.
 

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Dumb, just dumb. Creighton doesn't get 18K because of beer sales moron and idiots like you who continue this narrative are morons. And you bagging on Creighton's successes is moronic at best, especially if in defense of NU. I've been to hundreds of games and it's an extremely rare occasion to see anyone hammered outside of the student section and I doubt if anyone is hammered, it is because they were buying beers at the game. It seems like you may be hammered now with your stupid posts.

Wait...you called me a puritan but now I am a drunk! Love it!

You know why you are getting mad? Because I am right, it is okay. Basketball games SHOULD be an event. Just like Husker football games, for most people, are an event. And I am still not defending Husker basketball, I am not a fan.
 

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I don't live in Omaha and don't claim to know people's motivation for going to the Creighton games. But I do know that I find Big East basketball to be an entertaining product. Perhaps it's only 4th or 5th best in terms of strength-of-conference metrics, but the tempo, the ball movement and movement without the ball, and the general style of play are fun to watch. I think that's been a factor in Villanova's recent tournament success, as their opponents often seem dumbstruck by the fact that Villanova doesn't brainlessly dribble away 2/3 of the shot clock before looking at the basket.
 

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I don't live in Omaha and don't claim to know people's motivation for going to the Creighton games. But I do know that I find Big East basketball to be an entertaining product. Perhaps it's only 4th or 5th best in terms of strength-of-conference metrics, but the tempo, the ball movement and movement without the ball, and the general style of play are fun to watch. I think that's been a factor in Villanova's recent tournament success, as their opponents often seem dumbstruck by the fact that Villanova doesn't brainlessly dribble away 2/3 of the shot clock before looking at the basket.

Big East is probably more fun to watch now than 10 years ago...those games 10 years ago, 20 years ago, were brutal blood baths!

I know people's motivations:

1. Students...to have something to do and drink
2. Single dudes...to take single sloots to the game and drink
3. Families...cheap family night out

50% are there to root on the jays as real fans...the rest are there to do something and be seen or see others. There is nothing wrong with that. Think of Husker football games...think how many people are their for the party atmosphere. Thousands!

Jays fans need to stop being mad that people go to the games for fun...that is a good thing not a bad thing!
 

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Wait...you called me a puritan but now I am a drunk! Love it!

You know why you are getting mad? Because I am right, it is okay. Basketball games SHOULD be an event. Just like Husker football games, for most people, are an event. And I am still not defending Husker basketball, I am not a fan.

No, you are just stupid. You can't argue a point, have fun in life.
Big East is probably more fun to watch now than 10 years ago...those games 10 years ago, 20 years ago, were brutal blood baths!

I know people's motivations:

1. Students...to have something to do and drink
2. Single dudes...to take single sloots to the game and drink
3. Families...cheap family night out

50% are there to root on the jays as real fans...the rest are there to do something and be seen or see others. There is nothing wrong with that. Think of Husker football games...think how many people are their for the party atmosphere. Thousands!

Dumb.
 

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Where are they? That is my point, they are not anywhere.

I don't care what NU does and my expectations are high, like they should be.

What? They're top half of the conference and probably two wins away from getting in depending on the size of the bubble. They're in the conversation.

What basketball team do you follow? You have made it clear you're not a Creighton or Nebraska fan.
 

JohnRossEwing

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What? They're top half of the conference and probably two wins away from getting in depending on the size of the bubble. They're in the conversation.

What basketball team do you follow? You have made it clear you're not a Creighton or Nebraska fan.

I am a jays fan! I said that.
 
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Creighton also has benefitted from arguably the nation's most loyal AD in Rasmussen. I can't remember the last time a Jays coach in any sport was fired.
 

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Yeah, I agree.

You are seeing the future of what Jay basketball will look like, lots of .500 seasons.

McGregg has one of the top 5 P5 jobs in the country because that stadium will stay packed (if they keep selling booze) and the product on the court won't matter because it is an event. Dude hit the jackpot in terms of gigs.

While I agree with you overall, there’s plenty of us that do not like Greg McDermott and are ready and have been ready for him to move on/get fried. And not because “oh we’re Creighton we deserve Coach K level coaching” but because the dude is just a **** coach
 

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While I agree with you overall, there’s plenty of us that do not like Greg McDermott and are ready and have been ready for him to move on/get fried. And not because “oh we’re Creighton we deserve Coach K level coaching” but because the dude is just a **** coach
Amen!

Remember like two years ago when he was "offered" the OSU job! Hahaha

1 of two things and you will have to believe which one you want to believe..

1. He was never offered the job (this is what I believe)
2. He realized how badly he would be exposed in the Big Ten


Also...do you ever hit up the Lexus Club at the Jays games? So fun...but the booze prices are getting high.
 
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Yeah I’m sure if Creighton misses the tournament, it will be because they had to go OT to beat Providence. Good Lord, the dipshittery never ends.
Pretty sure a win is a win. They probably have to win their final regular season game, and then 2 in the big east tourney to have a shot.
 

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Amen!

Remember like two years ago when he was "offered" the OSU job! Hahaha

1 of two things and you will have to believe which one you want to believe..

1. He was never offered the job (this is what I believe)
2. He realized how badly he would be exposed in the Big Ten


Also...do you ever hit up the Lexus Club at the Jays games? So fun...but the booze prices are getting high.

Oh right I remember that, the “I got an offer from OSU but gee schucks I’d rather stay here”. I hated the hire since Razz gave him like a 16 year contract, a guy who had never gone over .500 in the Big 12 with Iowa State. Then he nose dives right out of the tournament with perhaps Creighton’s best team ever.

I dont really do the Lexus club/beer garden area stuff (like you said, it’s more of an event), but to be fair we have a suite so I stay up there. Though to be double fair, I haven’t been to a game all year, and if I did go it would only be for the free food and beer.
 

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Pretty sure a win is a win. They probably have to win their final regular season game, and then 2 in the big east tourney to have a shot.
Yes maybe if you squeaked out an OT win at home over Incarnate Word or Gardner-Webb, the committee might frown on that. Don't think the committee cares whether you beat Providence in regulation or OT.

Having said that, Creighton really, really needs to stop throwing those long inbounds passes into the backcourt that are two points gift-wrapped for the other team.
 

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Oh right I remember that, the “I got an offer from OSU but gee schucks I’d rather stay here”. I hated the hire since Razz gave him like a 16 year contract, a guy who had never gone over .500 in the Big 12 with Iowa State. Then he nose dives right out of the tournament with perhaps Creighton’s best team ever.

I dont really do the Lexus club/beer garden area stuff (like you said, it’s more of an event), but to be fair we have a suite so I stay up there. Though to be double fair, I haven’t been to a game all year, and if I did go it would only be for the free food and beer.
How are the suites for Jay games? I imagine they are basically just a place to show off to a girl (if you bring one) or to sit and chat and get wasted?